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Yup right with you ghoti. If he can fix the steering rack issue it's going to be a winner.

Still my favorite though.

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Kingtal0n

May I pick that idea apart a little? thanks. Not knocking the engine by any means, however,

1. an LsX also weighs about as much as an SR20DET. so any weight saving is moot considering that sole fact. And even more so when you consider the additional power output of the lsx (and torque and everything else).

2. the v configuration engine is not going to sit in the same place as an SR20 unless you make an absolutely perfect set of mounts and do all custom fabrication required for such a thing to be possible. In other words, even if the engine is lighter, it would also need to be located in the same exact spot to take full advantage of its weight saving and "distribution".

each car has a purpose. if you are more concerned with straight line power, reliability, and are on a budget; the 2jz is the obvious winner.
if you want a little less power, same reliability, and want a bit more handling, I would go with the sr20 (for about 200 horsepower less you get a lighter vehicle, better fuel economy, and with OEM suspension at least, better handling). A 2jz 240sx could be made to handle well with a ton of suspension modifications of course. So could a KA24DE 240sx; or any car. But I am into daily drivers with OEM suspension, even oem shocks. and 2jz 240sx, while very fast and fun to drive with 500 horsepower while on a budget, probably would not be as great of a thing to "take corners" with on OEM shocks in a 240sx.

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240boi115

mhmmmmm sexy! nice swap man!

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simmode1

KA24DE: ~380lbs
SR20DET: 328lbs
LS1: 425lbs+
VQ30DET: ~330lbs

I don't understand your point about having the engine mounted properly... Just do the shit right the first time and mount it as close to the firewall & as low as you can sensibly go. It's not like it hasn't been done before. You'd apply the same logic to a V8 swap as well.

240boi115

^^^^ that a 1uze swap??? niiiiiice!

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RiskyRick

That'd be a vq30det. The build thread for that particular s15 is on here.

cjack300zx

Its the most commonly swaped engine ever! Anybody who has driven one or has sat in the passenger seat of vehicle with this swap will understand why. Small block Chevy. Me my favorite swap would be the vg30dett but I'm kind of biased.

Kingtal0n

as to the weight, 100lbs is nothing. plus or minus 100lbs is not going to change much as far as power:weight ratio, not like going from a 240->camaro where you gain 1000lbs in dead weight. I would not let 100lbs stop me from adding +2 cylinders and almost 2 more liters of displacement to my chassis no matter what platform. I would LOVE to add 100lbs and gain 2+L are you kidding?
thats a whole extra sr20det engine under the hood for +100lbs!

As to how the engine is mounted, Figure you install that VQ engine in a 240sx and it happens to be the same exact weight as an SR20DET. I guarantee you that it will not be located in the same exact place. that means there will be changes to suspension geometry and handling, and if the weight is more forward or higher in the chassis I have a feeling it will also affect drag launch characteristics among other things. again, application specific stuff. If you are drag racing, nothing a good set of tires might fix. If it's a street car daily driver we probably wouldnt even notice. But the same goes for a 2jz-gte, an extra XXXlbs or whatever, I dont notice that on the street. But I do notice 600 horsepower that didnt eat my wallet.

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simmode1

Just how much do you think it costs to build a 600hp 2JZ swapped 240? If that didn't eat your wallet, congratufuckinglations because that shit is a killer for most ppl.

But I do think you might gain some benefit from reading up on some VQ30DET build threads. You are generalizing a whole lot just for the sake of arguing for the V8's behalf.

Either way, I don't care. I prefer SR + Z33 6spd trans.

Dboyizmlg

Sr20 would be my 1st choice (maybe cause I have one at the moment), if it where to be any thing besides that it would be the 2jz.
Have read a lot of good things about that engine, how reliable it is and how much horsepower you can get out of it. I have few friends with RB engines and they are always fixing some thing on them. RB would not be a choice for me.

Oh and by the way, for those people that love 240's and the whole Jdm thing. You should stick to it! Putting a domestic motor in a 240 is not cool!
If you want an ls1/2 then just buy an American vehicle! Lol

Kingtal0n

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$13,500 for that swap including labor.
Thats actually an 800RWHP setup (pump @ 550rwhp, C16 @ 800rwhp)

sold the entire car for $19,000 in 2009 I think.

if you do the swap yourself its around $10,000.
No other swap in existence, even when you do ALL the labor yourself and ALL the welding, will get your 550rwhp, 25mpg, and 200,000 miles of daily driver reliability for that price.

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Corbic

Considering a stock NA 2JZ can't even do 25mpg I'm calling bullshit.

Also a stock $350 LM7 5.3 will push 700hp with an ebay turbo. Proven a dozen times by Hot Rod and Car Craft magazines. Thats a $2, 500 engine build.

People build 550whp LS engines for pocket change*.

RiskyRick

And they have also been proven to stay together at over 1000hp on the stock internals by these same magazines. For how long, no one can really say, but the testers claim many, MANY runs at 1000+.

So there's another main 2jz bragging point.

DS562

Vh45de in a Z32 because at 3400lbs, 222hp and 16/22mpg NA, I feel like it might as well have had a fuckin V8.

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Corbic

But, back in '89 a V8 would have been 215hp anf 15/19mpg.

DS562

well i meant in '94 along side the Q45

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R3VO 3VOM

I get 30mpg in my RB S30..... It's really nice. haha

Bmxer300zx

They had the vh45de in 89 made 278hp.......
But imo the TTVG Is a better engine aside from the nightmare to work on. The na z32's are nice as a dd I miss mine at times.

DS562

Well don't get me wrong, I love my NA Z32. At times, though, I really feel as if it lacks something...be it 2 turbos or 2 extra cylinders. And at least -300lbs

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DS562

I HAVE to accomplish my VK45DE/cd009 combo in my Z. Have to have to have to.

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MrChow

I've been doing some research on the whole 1uz swap. Swap is cheap and the tranny opinion area super nice looking.

1uz is an all balance motor was really interesting too me too.
Toyota / Lexus 1UZ Parts

I'm still researching..

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240boi115

i would hate to friggin work on a tt z32. the engine bay is already crowded as it is in NA form.. how the hell they managed to shove 2 turbos in that bish is a mystery. clever nissan engineers you!

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Bmxer300zx

I did a twin turbo swap into my z32 after I sold it to a friend. Fuckkkkkkiinnngggg nightmare.
I'd much rather the vh45 but that swap is no easy task plus getting 450hp outa a TTVG is a bit easier.

Flicktitty

I have a GTE Swapped S13. with a Precision 6262 on 19psi through an automatic (stock tq converter) car made 400whp. and got 32mph on the freeway on a 200mile trip.

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DS562

im trying to stay away from forced induction. i know it does wonders for an engine's power output, but i dont want to worry about longevity. there's so much more that can go wrong with a TT'd daily that i dont want to deal with it.

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Hartshorn_

4bt cummins or a 1uzfe

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240boi115

i ihear ya manworking on my buddies na z32 was hell changing the oil filter and maintinence is hell
so im assuming you own a 300zx? in which case yes... stay na lol any other car boosted is awesome and easier to work on IMO. i would never boost an 86 though. it jus tfeels wrong to boost an 86

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simmode1

Two other non-Nissan N/A swaps I like are:

2GR-FE powered MR2
J35A3 powered S2000

240boi115

what about the f20? 240hp NA powered motor!! those in hatchis are pretty wicked.. gotta love the s2k cluster too.. although working at a dealership ive heard the ap1 differentials are weak/ tempermental.this true?

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Hartshorn_

I'm in the process of my 1uzfe swap right now. Very straight forward to do. The hardest part is the 1 hour of wiring if you're not comfortable with it. I'm planning on a megasquirt ms3 for future boost capabilities.

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