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doitsidewayz · 06-03-2012, 11:59 AM

Okay I have an s14 with an s14 notchback swap. And I don't know if it just started smoking or got it that way...when I got the car was all stock just the sr20 swap..but anyways, Motor is all stock but Rocker arm stoppers a fmic and a straight pipe. No cats or resonator. Well car smoke when I let it idle for 20+ second and I take off or rev it up. But just the first rev than it clears up. Won't smoke when driving or idling. Car still running the stock 7-8 pounds...any help? it's not that bad but I want to fix this asap. Lol
Could it be a bad turbo or valve seals.?
Also I'm running mobil1 10-50 synth. If it even matters.
I was running 5-30 and thought that was the problem but still doing it

ch1873857 · 06-03-2012, 12:03 PM

what color is the smoke

doitsidewayz · 06-03-2012, 12:06 PM

Grayish.
I also noticed it does it more when the car is warm

ch1873857 · 06-03-2012, 12:27 PM

do a leak down test....

JdmDrift4Food · 06-03-2012, 03:52 PM

Do you know anyone with a spare turbo to test? If its a journal bearing turbo, it sounds like the seals are slowing going bad. But it also could be the valve seals like you said because I had the same issue on my old car, and I replaced the valve seals and no more smoke!

KiLLeR2001 · 06-03-2012, 03:55 PM

Usually smoking at idle is the turbo seals, my car would randomly smoke at idle for a good 20 seconds. I replaced my turbo and it hasn't happened since.

doitsidewayz · 06-03-2012, 04:08 PM

Yeah it won't smoke at idle dude. Just smoke when it sits and i take off. Than it clears. I can let the car sit at idle for 1hour and no smoke would come put until I take off.

pacotaco345 · 06-03-2012, 04:10 PM

sounds like your valve seals..

JdmDrift4Food · 06-03-2012, 04:12 PM

Pretty sure its the turbo then. I thought bad valve seals smoked at idle and stoped a little ways after you get on the gas. Could be either or. Maybe even rings going bad. I would start by replacing turbo if you have access to a un-blown one, or as stated above, do a leak down test.

doitsidewayz · 06-03-2012, 04:34 PM

I'm so confuse... Lol
How much is it to get valve seals replaced any ways?

JdmDrift4Food · 06-03-2012, 04:44 PM

Its around 60-80 for the seals iirc. And you can do them yourself if you have any mechanical knowledge.

s14>integra · 06-03-2012, 07:19 PM

definitely sounds like valve seals if it smokes when you take off after letting it sit for awhile. You can change them yourself just make sure you don't drop a valve into your motor otherwise you will be doing a lot of extra work.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 06-03-2012, 07:39 PM

If it is the valve seals, why would you only do the seals? The valve guides probably need some replacing too.

But I'd check to make sure first that its not the turbo. Take the inlet off and check for shaft play. As long as you dont have much in and out play, it should be good.

MrSanchez925 · 06-03-2012, 07:55 PM

Does the car smoke right away on cold starts?

90% of the time bad valve seals will cause smoke upon cold starts.

projectblak · 06-03-2012, 08:36 PM

Mine never smoked at idle or even part throttle, cold or warmed up, but would only smoke when I get into boost.. Turned out my $2800 hks turbo was taking a shit on me and the oil seals were going out.. Gl op

doitsidewayz · 06-03-2012, 09:10 PM

^^^ lol
I can step on it when I'm driving it and won't smoke at all dude ....I can let the car sit at idle fr hours from a cold start and won't smoke. It smokes when I rev it up after the car is sitting down For maybe 20+ seconds. But than it clears up...

projectblak · 06-03-2012, 09:13 PM

Take off ur filter and piping and see if there is any oil in them mine had plenty of oil. If there is then probably ur turbo seals

doitsidewayz · 06-03-2012, 09:37 PM

I Check every single thing last night, checked cold side pipping, hot side, and intake pipe and no signs of oil at all...

projectblak · 06-03-2012, 09:44 PM

Maybe valve seals? Don't think I'm much of help now lol

doitsidewayz · 06-03-2012, 10:37 PM

i guess...thanks anyways dude

projectblak · 06-04-2012, 05:29 AM

Np good luck man

JdmDrift4Food · 06-04-2012, 08:08 PM

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doitsidewayz · 06-05-2012, 01:34 AM

Hahahaha in saying...I didn't k ow what to reply back to that one hahaha

ryublack · 06-06-2012, 01:46 AM

240sx for sale take a look
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doitsidewayz · 06-11-2012, 04:49 PM

Okay found the problem...did not have a bad turbo or valve seals.
Just had a little to much oil and it was burning it off. Silly me!!
Thanks a lot guys!

doitsidewayz · 06-11-2012, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryublack

240sx for sale take a look
Nissan : 240SX Nissan : 240SX | eBay

^^^^ what's up with this random comments on my thread lol

doitsidewayz · 06-11-2012, 07:14 PM

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06-03-2012, 11:59 AM	#1
doitsidewayz Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: -_______- Posts: 714 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Bad Turbo seals or valve seals...? Okay I have an s14 with an s14 notchback swap. And I don't know if it just started smoking or got it that way...when I got the car was all stock just the sr20 swap..but anyways, Motor is all stock but Rocker arm stoppers a fmic and a straight pipe. No cats or resonator. Well car smoke when I let it idle for 20+ second and I take off or rev it up. But just the first rev than it clears up. Won't smoke when driving or idling. Car still running the stock 7-8 pounds...any help? it's not that bad but I want to fix this asap. Lol Could it be a bad turbo or valve seals.? Also I'm running mobil1 10-50 synth. If it even matters. I was running 5-30 and thought that was the problem but still doing it

06-03-2012, 03:55 PM	#6
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	Usually smoking at idle is the turbo seals, my car would randomly smoke at idle for a good 20 seconds. I replaced my turbo and it hasn't happened since. __________________

06-03-2012, 04:10 PM	#8
pacotaco345 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SoCal/Ft Worth TX Age: 27 Posts: 1,549 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	sounds like your valve seals.. __________________

06-03-2012, 07:39 PM	#13
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	If it is the valve seals, why would you only do the seals? The valve guides probably need some replacing too. But I'd check to make sure first that its not the turbo. Take the inlet off and check for shaft play. As long as you dont have much in and out play, it should be good. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

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06-03-2012, 12:03 PM	#2
ch1873857 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Andrews Air Force Base Posts: 1,905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	what color is the smoke

06-03-2012, 12:06 PM	#3
doitsidewayz Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: -_______- Posts: 714 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Grayish. I also noticed it does it more when the car is warm

06-03-2012, 12:27 PM	#4
ch1873857 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Andrews Air Force Base Posts: 1,905 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	do a leak down test....

06-03-2012, 03:52 PM	#5
JdmDrift4Food Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Coeur d'alene Age: 29 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Do you know anyone with a spare turbo to test? If its a journal bearing turbo, it sounds like the seals are slowing going bad. But it also could be the valve seals like you said because I had the same issue on my old car, and I replaced the valve seals and no more smoke!

06-03-2012, 04:08 PM	#7
doitsidewayz Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: -_______- Posts: 714 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Yeah it won't smoke at idle dude. Just smoke when it sits and i take off. Than it clears. I can let the car sit at idle for 1hour and no smoke would come put until I take off.

06-03-2012, 04:12 PM	#9
JdmDrift4Food Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Coeur d'alene Age: 29 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Pretty sure its the turbo then. I thought bad valve seals smoked at idle and stoped a little ways after you get on the gas. Could be either or. Maybe even rings going bad. I would start by replacing turbo if you have access to a un-blown one, or as stated above, do a leak down test.

06-03-2012, 04:34 PM	#10
doitsidewayz Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: -_______- Posts: 714 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I'm so confuse... Lol How much is it to get valve seals replaced any ways?

06-03-2012, 04:44 PM	#11
JdmDrift4Food Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Coeur d'alene Age: 29 Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Its around 60-80 for the seals iirc. And you can do them yourself if you have any mechanical knowledge.

06-03-2012, 07:19 PM	#12
s14>integra Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: sunnyvale Posts: 188 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	definitely sounds like valve seals if it smokes when you take off after letting it sit for awhile. You can change them yourself just make sure you don't drop a valve into your motor otherwise you will be doing a lot of extra work.

06-03-2012, 07:55 PM	#14
MrSanchez925 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Martinez, Ca Age: 32 Posts: 412 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Does the car smoke right away on cold starts? 90% of the time bad valve seals will cause smoke upon cold starts.

06-03-2012, 08:36 PM	#15
projectblak Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: louisville ky Age: 34 Posts: 297 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Mine never smoked at idle or even part throttle, cold or warmed up, but would only smoke when I get into boost.. Turned out my $2800 hks turbo was taking a shit on me and the oil seals were going out.. Gl op

06-03-2012, 09:10 PM	#16
doitsidewayz Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: -_______- Posts: 714 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^^^ lol I can step on it when I'm driving it and won't smoke at all dude ....I can let the car sit at idle fr hours from a cold start and won't smoke. It smokes when I rev it up after the car is sitting down For maybe 20+ seconds. But than it clears up...

06-03-2012, 09:13 PM	#17
projectblak Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: louisville ky Age: 34 Posts: 297 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Take off ur filter and piping and see if there is any oil in them mine had plenty of oil. If there is then probably ur turbo seals

06-03-2012, 09:37 PM	#18
doitsidewayz Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: -_______- Posts: 714 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I Check every single thing last night, checked cold side pipping, hot side, and intake pipe and no signs of oil at all...

06-03-2012, 09:44 PM	#19
projectblak Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: louisville ky Age: 34 Posts: 297 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Maybe valve seals? Don't think I'm much of help now lol

06-03-2012, 10:37 PM	#20
doitsidewayz Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: -_______- Posts: 714 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i guess...thanks anyways dude

06-04-2012, 05:29 AM	#21
projectblak Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: louisville ky Age: 34 Posts: 297 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Np good luck man

06-05-2012, 01:34 AM	#23
doitsidewayz Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: -_______- Posts: 714 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Hahahaha in saying...I didn't k ow what to reply back to that one hahaha

06-06-2012, 01:46 AM	#24
ryublack Join Date: May 2012 Location: california Age: 30 Posts: 18 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	240sx for sale take a look Nissan : 240SX Nissan : 240SX \| eBay

06-11-2012, 04:49 PM	#25
doitsidewayz Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: -_______- Posts: 714 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Okay found the problem...did not have a bad turbo or valve seals. Just had a little to much oil and it was burning it off. Silly me!! Thanks a lot guys!

06-11-2012, 07:14 PM	#27
doitsidewayz Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: -_______- Posts: 714 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	-___________-