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Old 09-14-2009, 01:16 PM   #121
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this A-hole should be dropped off the face of the earth. Not cool at all. I hate you Kanye!
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straight disrespectful. he acted like he all that.

even u look at it different way. it still disrespectfull.


what u all are in taylor swift's position? was dat cool with u?
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I see the hair. Thats more like a happy trail though. Prolly goes all the way down to a giant sascrotch.
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ixfxi when I posted what would you do? It was in reference to what would you have done, if you were in her position and someone pulled that shit that Kanye pulled.
I don't watch these stupid award shows, did not know this happened until I looked at the thread, then I looked at some of the video of him having backstage meltdown, and interviews, and the guy is like a spoiled fuckin kid. And comes off as disrespectful, and like a closet racist.
How can you act like an ass hole, say shit, and then go on a blog and post shit contradicting what you said and expect people to act like your a decent person.

Ironically last night while flipping through the channels the end of the awards were on, and turns out Beyonce won best video of the year, and when she accepted the award she said some shit about how her first vma ment alot to her, and that she wanted Taylor Swift to come up and get to have her "moment", I thought that was classy, and deserved. But it is funny that she ended up winning, which makes me think that with today standards, does anyone else think Sir Mix-a-lot's puttem on the glass, or baby got back would win a vma? Or anything from 2live crew? lol. Music and mtv does suck.
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Keri Hilson is so cute. Have always been totally crushing on her. Kind of liked her better with longer hair though.
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Hmmm.. I wonder if Kanye is simply Jay-Z's "Do-Dirt" homie.. Maybe Jay put him up to it and Kanye being Jay's puppet he did what he was ordered to do..

Idk.. Just thoughts. Lol
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Apparently, he "apologized" to her already. Still really messed up for what he did.
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now if he pulled this shit at the grammys..... yeah...
if he would even qualify to be at the grammys

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This.

Kanye is a genuis. His attitude is that of the perfect MC, in my opinion. Swag bigger than life and a certified hit maker. But this thing with Taylor was completely staged...

As for whoever was mad that he sampled Daft Punk, good god... Most ppl never evn heard of Daft Punk until Kanye sampled it. They got lots of listens, thanks to Kanye.
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This.

Kanye is a genuis. His attitude is that of the perfect MC, in my opinion. Swag bigger than life and a certified hit maker. But this thing with Taylor was completely staged...

As for whoever was made that he sampled Daft Punk, good god... Most ppl never evn heard of Daft Punk until Kanye sampled it. They got lots of listens, thanks to Kanye.
Swag bigger than life..? Ummm.. I think you meant to say an EGO bigger than life. Sorry but I dont see how someone can be cocky and have such an ego when the rap is whack.

When it comes down to it Kanye is a rapper not an MC. I think IF ANYTHING, Kanye should stick to making beats. I mean have you really heard his flow..? I think it's garbage and kinda sounds like mad-libs. I mean not everybody can rap but a lot of people can make words rhyme.. Kanye included.

And about the Daft Punk comment.. How old are you..? Because I know a lot of peeps who love/loved Daft Punk waaay before Kanye decided to bite but then again most of these people I speak of are in their mid 20's. So I guess I can understand if you're speaking of 17 and below. Holla
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ok i just had to bust out some kayne mp3s from college dropout, he did have some sick songs back than, before his ego got the best of him


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im not a kanye fan, but this song is sick
then the og unreleased without luda on the hook http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDhFiPfPbWg

now he aint that good imo.
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Swag bigger than life..? Ummm.. I think you meant to say an EGO bigger than life. Sorry but I dont see how someone can be cocky and have such an ego when the rap is whack.

When it comes down to it Kanye is a rapper not an MC. I think IF ANYTHING, Kanye should stick to making beats. I mean have you really heard his flow..? I think it's garbage and kinda sounds like mad-libs. I mean not everybody can rap but a lot of people can make words rhyme.. Kanye included.

And about the Daft Punk comment.. How old are you..? Because I know a lot of peeps who love/loved Daft Punk waaay before Kanye decided to bite but then again most of these people I speak of are in their mid 20's. So I guess I can understand if you're speaking of 17 and below. Holla
Hilarious. I'm 30. Been listening to rap and hip hop for quite a while, my friend. In fact, I was also an entertainment writer for a city newspaper, specializing in the "urban" scene.

Debating whether Kanye is a rapper or an MC will devolve into circular rhetoric and will ultimately be based upon your own preference. Bottom line: Who sells more records worldwide? And if Daft Punk thought Kanye did them a disservice, they wouldn't have worked with him on the track.

Everyones reactions to this whole thing is way out of proportion. It's Kanye. It's what he does. Get over it. lol
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ok i just had to bust out some kayne mp3s from college dropout, he did have some sick songs back than, before his ego got the best of him
I can kinda agree with this.. ^^^
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Everyones reactions to this whole thing is way out of proportion. It's Kanye. It's what he does. Get over it. lol
Ted Bundy killed women, get over it.
Just because it's someone's MO to act a certain way, doesn't mean that it's acceptable. The guy is a baby, and acted like a tard. I hope (but realize it wont happen) that this directly affects his record sales.
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As for whoever was mad that he sampled Daft Punk, good god... Most ppl never evn heard of Daft Punk until Kanye sampled it. They got lots of listens, thanks to Kanye.
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And about the Daft Punk comment.. How old are you..? Because I know a lot of peeps who love/loved Daft Punk waaay before Kanye decided to bite but then again most of these people I speak of are in their mid 20's. So I guess I can understand if you're speaking of 17 and below. Holla

I have been listening to Daft Punk for a while, ever since the Discovery album came out in fact. Daft Punk got more listeners after Kanye because people reliezed that Kanye's song was shit compared to the original by Daft Punk.
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Hilarious. I'm 30. Been listening to rap and hip hop for quite a while, my friend. In fact, I was also an entertainment writer for a city newspaper, specializing in the "urban" scene.

Debating whether Kanye is a rapper or an MC will devolve into circular rhetoric and will ultimately be based upon your own preference. Bottom line: Who sells more records worldwide? And if Daft Punk thought Kanye did them a disservice, they wouldn't have worked with him on the track.

Everyones reactions to this whole thing is way out of proportion. It's Kanye. It's what he does. Get over it. lol
Specializing in the "Urban" scene..? Is that like the "Politically Correct" term for "Rap/Hip Hop"..? I may not be a writer specializing in "Urban" sounds but I think I can hear/listen pretty ok when comes to decent sounds. Kanye on the other hand..?? Not so much.

These are just my feelings on Kanye himself. I didnt even know about his actions at the VMA's til I came upon this thread.

In closing I'd like to qoute the great Gary Grice aka "GZA"- "Who's Your A&R? A mountain climber who plays an electric guitar? But he don't know the meaning of dope.."

Because you sound just like the type he's thinking about when he wrote that line with your statement "Bottom line: Who sells more records worldwide?"
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ok i just had to bust out some kayne mp3s from college dropout, he did have some sick songs back than, before his ego got the best of him
im not a kanye fan, but this song is sick
then the og unreleased without luda on the hook
now he aint that good imo.
ego doesnt bother me, when the person is GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO.

Examples:
James Brown, Big Daddy Kane, TuPac, Dave Chappelle..

All people who were and always will be the best at what they do. The problem arises when people become popular, and then degrade because they cannot produce quality work anymore. I dont care for Jay Z or Kanye West because they're shit is tired. They got too fat to create good work anymore, spent too much time enjoying riches as opposed to spending their time working.


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Hilarious. I'm 30. Been listening to rap and hip hop for quite a while, my friend. In fact, I was also an entertainment writer for a city newspaper, specializing in the "urban" scene.
Writers are great, because they spend more time writing what they're being paid to write about. There are plenty of useless people that write, take Dan Niel for the LA Times.. he wrote plenty of absolutely useless articles about things he doesnt even have a remote understanding for AND received a Pulitzer Prize. Why this guy was writing about cars is beyond me.. but yet he's a zagat-rated, first class tool.
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ego doesnt bother me, when the person is GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO.

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James Brown, Big Daddy Kane, TuPac, Dave Chappelle..

All people who were and always will be the best at what they do. The problem arises when people become popular, and then degrade because they cannot produce quality work anymore. I dont care for Jay Z or Kanye West because they're shit is tired. They got too fat to create good work anymore, spent too much time enjoying riches as opposed to spending their time working.




Writers are great, because they spend more time writing what they're being paid to write about. There are plenty of useless people that write, take Dan Niel for the LA Times.. he wrote plenty of absolutely useless articles about things he doesnt even have a remote understanding for AND received a Pulitzer Prize. Why this guy was writing about cars is beyond me.. but yet he's a zagat-rated, first class tool.
Very true.. Great words.
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good point,.. when a artist gets to a point where they dont have to work as much anymore, there music starts to slack off..
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Specializing in the "Urban" scene..? Is that like the "Politically Correct" term for "Rap/Hip Hop"..? I may not be a writer specializing in "Urban" sounds but I think I can hear/listen pretty ok when comes to decent sounds. Kanye on the other hand..?? Not so much.

These are just my feelings on Kanye himself. I didnt even know about his actions at the VMA's til I came upon this thread.

In closing I'd like to qoute the great Gary Grice aka "GZA"- "Who's Your A&R? A mountain climber who plays an electric guitar? But he don't know the meaning of dope.."

Because you sound just like the type he's thinking about when he wrote that line with your statement "Bottom line: Who sells more records worldwide?"
More hilarity... "Urban" is just what they paper management labeled me since, of the 8 music/entertainment regulars they had on staff, only 2 of us were black and only 1 of those 2 managed to get backstage everywhere and cover "Black" music.

I used to be a HUGE Wu-Tang fan... Hell, I've hung out and smoked with most of them (Gza included). But where is he now? Sorry to say it, but in the music industry if you're not selling records, you're not relevant. Why? Because the labels will discard you for someone who does. The underground doesn't count for shit.

After years of covering the scene, youthful ideas of when Hip-Hop will be like it was in the '80's & '90's becomes replaced with the jaded truth. No matter how good you are, if you don't stay relevant, you will be replaced and the world will move on and barely even notice. The majority of todays entertainers are disposable commodities. The one's that will be here for years to come will be the ones that continue to make headlines, even despite lack of actual talent. It's called 'staying power'.
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Writers are great, because they spend more time writing what they're being paid to write about. There are plenty of useless people that write, take Dan Niel for the LA Times.. he wrote plenty of absolutely useless articles about things he doesnt even have a remote understanding for AND received a Pulitzer Prize. Why this guy was writing about cars is beyond me.. but yet he's a zagat-rated, first class tool.
Yeah. Sometimes we get it right and sometimes we don't. I remember one article I wrote reviewing an Usher album and I bashed one song on it. Almost as if to spite me, that song became one of his biggest hits of all time. I failed bigtime on that one... lol

But anyways... Kanye may be a gay fish and all... but he ain't going anywhere, folks. And none of this changes the fact that it was all staged anyways...

Now, when ODB did it?! That shit was real! lol
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seriously.

Kanye is ignorant, no matter what way you slice it. end of story, have a nice day.
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More hilarity... "Urban" is just what they paper management labeled me since, of the 8 music/entertainment regulars they had on staff, only 2 of us were black and only 1 of those 2 managed to get backstage everywhere and cover "Black" music.

I used to be a HUGE Wu-Tang fan... Hell, I've hung out and smoked with most of them (Gza included). But where is he now? Sorry to say it, but in the music industry if you're not selling records, you're not relevant. Why? Because the labels will discard you for someone who does. The underground doesn't count for shit.

After years of covering the scene, youthful ideas of when Hip-Hop will be like it was in the '80's & '90's becomes replaced with the jaded truth. No matter how good you are, if you don't stay relevant, you will be replaced and the world will move on and barely even notice. The majority of todays entertainers are disposable commodities. The one's that will be here for years to come will be the ones that continue to make headlines, even despite lack of actual talent. It's called 'staying power'.
Well I wish he was reading what I'm reading because I guess now that he's not "revelant" that makes you someone who fronts so long as the going is good..? Or am I mistaken..?

Hit record or not I know quite a few Wu/Hip Hop in general heads that'll tell you a lil something about "staying power". I think maybe your definition of "staying power" differs from mine. However I do think that your definition comes from that of a COMMERCIAL record label. What do writers like yourself hope to become..? Because from what it sounds like "A voice of the masses" is way too deep for ya'll. I bet it's more something like becoming one of those know-nothing talking heads that you see on VH1's Where are they now..? Or some other type of talking heads from whatever "Urban music" documentary you'd like. I guess all I can say is enjoy your future in writing down your opinion on Soulja Boy's newest album while being dictated by the suit the ranks just one level above you..

But hey whatever pays the bills right..?
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Specializing in the "Urban" scene..? Is that like the "Politically Correct" term for "Rap/Hip Hop"..? I may not be a writer specializing in "Urban" sounds but I think I can hear/listen pretty ok when comes to decent sounds. Kanye on the other hand..?? Not so much.

These are just my feelings on Kanye himself. I didnt even know about his actions at the VMA's til I came upon this thread.

In closing I'd like to qoute the great Gary Grice aka "GZA"- "Who's Your A&R? A mountain climber who plays an electric guitar? But he don't know the meaning of dope.."

Because you sound just like the type he's thinking about when he wrote that line with your statement "Bottom line: Who sells more records worldwide?"
Tell'em how it is, because the GZA is the mothafuckin GENIUS... PERIOD.

If you guys think SALES = GREATNESS then you gotta check yourself before we get into another KRS ONE vs NELLY comparison, because we all know that KRS ONE is fuckin badassed but NELLY I guess "won" because of SALES. Fuck sales. I listen to rap because that shit was and always will be from the streets. I could give a fuck if who I am listening to is wealthy. Jay Z isnt sharing his fortune with me, and the mothafucka has run out of shit to rap about. With that said, why would I care to listen to his music? I dont listen to Hip Pop so I can have a new ringtone, I listen to shit that makes me think and has some depth. Even if its 2 Live Crew, i'll still get enjoyment listening and laughing as opposed to some bullshit Soulja Boy that SELLS.

Man, sometimes I wonder if people even know what rap is all about...


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More hilarity... "Urban" is just what they paper management labeled me since, of the 8 music/entertainment regulars they had on staff, only 2 of us were black and only 1 of those 2 managed to get backstage everywhere and cover "Black" music.

I used to be a HUGE Wu-Tang fan... Hell, I've hung out and smoked with most of them (Gza included). But where is he now? Sorry to say it, but in the music industry if you're not selling records, you're not relevant. Why? Because the labels will discard you for someone who does. The underground doesn't count for shit.

After years of covering the scene, youthful ideas of when Hip-Hop will be like it was in the '80's & '90's becomes replaced with the jaded truth. No matter how good you are, if you don't stay relevant, you will be replaced and the world will move on and barely even notice. The majority of todays entertainers are disposable commodities. The one's that will be here for years to come will be the ones that continue to make headlines, even despite lack of actual talent. It's called 'staying power'.
Because of affirmative action, I bet my white ass wouldnt get a job in the urban department because I am not black, even though I'm damn sure I know more about rap than you and I'm around the same age. With that said, lets not all get too hot over race here.. because this isnt about that. I will say that if you "used to be a huge wu fan" then you'de know a few things:
- GZA is the genius
- sales dont mean shit
- Wu-Tang mothafucka, is FOREVA

I wanted to say this earlier when I stumbled into this clusterfuck of a thread, but I forgot. Now I will say it:

there is only ONE person who can fuck around at the award show and get away with it, and that was the great ODB. THIS is how its done...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2-5GSjZvW8
^ Kanye West should take some fuckin notes.
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