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estanislao · 06-06-2012, 01:43 PM

so last night i was cruising down a road, i saw a cop (checking for speed speed limit was 45 i was doing around 43) so i thought i was ok all of a sudden i see the lights in my rear view mirror i got stop. he asked for my paper work ect. and told me that i had been stop for my lights that they were illegal here in cali. i forgot to mention he didnt even care about my exhaust and that thing is pretty loud specially since its an n/a. has anyone here been stopped for this?

Edwin562 · 06-06-2012, 01:46 PM

Did he give a ticket for them??

*ManoNegra* · 06-06-2012, 01:52 PM

lights are probably the typical glare-aimed-at-traffic-jdm-special kids love to 'upgrade' their piles with

silviaks2nr · 06-06-2012, 02:00 PM

Your car probably looks like a POS, that's why he pulled you over. And then he wanted to badger you about something so he picked the lights. And Technically they are RHD pattern and not suited for US roads. They illuminate further in the left lane (oncoming traffic) than in your lane, so the beam could have been directly in his face.

landins13 · 06-06-2012, 02:01 PM

if you have some bs aftermarket HID's in them then he had every right to pull you over for them. if youre still running the correct halogen bulbs i dont see why it would be an issue.

KiLLeR2001 · 06-06-2012, 02:07 PM

There's a reason the 240SX coupe has popups. The S13 Silvia headlights did not comply to US standards, thus illegal.

estanislao · 06-06-2012, 03:30 PM

no the cop was just been a dick good thing he didnt ticket me for modified exhaust

95zenki man · 06-06-2012, 03:38 PM

I have never had a problem with cops saying anything about my trips or bricks... Its always "oh this cars to loud" or " sittin a little to low there arnt ya?"

Its not illegal to have them and never has been. Hell just say its the stock lights and pull up a silvia on google or some bullshit.

Or put the popups back on and stop bitching. Cops love moded cars, dont wonna deal with them? Dont put flashy shit and loud exhausts on your car.

estanislao · 06-06-2012, 03:44 PM

lol yeah i thought he was gonna tell me that i was loud but didnt even mention. andddd im not bitching about it im totally fine with it. it seems like he knew cus i did try to play it out as the car being like that stock but he was like no they are after market. so..... i blamed it on the previous owner. lol

raz0rbladez909 · 06-06-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

There's a reason the 240SX coupe has popups. The S13 Silvia headlights did not comply to US standards, thus illegal.

BINGO!

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Originally Posted by estanislao

lol yeah i thought he was gonna tell me that i was loud but didnt even mention. andddd im not bitching about it im totally fine with it. it seems like he knew cus i did try to play it out as the car being like that stock but he was like no they are after market. so..... i blamed it on the previous owner. lol

If an officer knows his shit you're typically not going to bs your way out of it. Even moreso if you're running HID's in them.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 06-06-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by silviaks2nr

Your car probably looks like a POS, that's why he pulled you over. And then he wanted to badger you about something so he picked the lights. And Technically they are RHD pattern and not suited for US roads. They illuminate further in the left lane (oncoming traffic) than in your lane, so the beam could have been directly in his face.

^^^THis!!! Or it could be they look like APC headlights, they sure push the same amount of light...

ghost_silvia · 06-06-2012, 05:19 PM

Retro fit them with usdm tsx projectors to correct the angle of the projectors .

blacksmith · 06-06-2012, 05:31 PM

Good time to upgrade to some bricks!

*fliprayzin240sx* · 06-06-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blacksmith

Good time to upgrade to some bricks!

Umm...no...bricks sucks just as bad for light output.

estanislao · 06-06-2012, 05:59 PM

i was actually thinking about that upgrade... anyone up for the trade my triples for you bricks cash on my end

blacksmith · 06-06-2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Umm...no...bricks sucks just as bad for light output.

At least they look more low key than triple beams. Cop wouldn't look twice at bricks.

ixfxi · 06-06-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by estanislao

no the cop was just been a dick good thing he didnt ticket me for modified exhaust

the cop was indeed being a dick

and rightfully so. glad to see that cops arent totally clueless when it comes to lighting.

UNLESS of course, you actually did something to improve them - but chances are, you... like the rest of 240sx owners, didnt do shit to remedy the RHD beam pattern issue.

good job, toolbox

Perfect Balance · 06-06-2012, 06:42 PM

Even with the light pattern fixed, they are still illegal simply because they don't have any kind of certification required to be legal in the US. All those markings in the housings mean something...

*Wookie384* · 06-07-2012, 03:38 AM

Maybe the fact that you have a Silvia front was the reason why he pulled you over? Maybe he knows Silvia headlights are not DOT approved (therefore considered illegal in all 50 states of the U.S.A.).

conrad_s13.5 · 06-07-2012, 07:59 AM

[insert comment about being illegal...or something]

ixfxi · 06-07-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Balance

Even with the light pattern fixed, they are still illegal simply because they don't have any kind of certification required to be legal in the US. All those markings in the housings mean something...

in states that require inspection, sure. for that very same reason, the 96-98 180SX tail lights are not compliant either as they do not have the proper US markings... BUT, at the end of the day - its not about whats technically compliant as it its more about whats WRONG. the silvia headlights 100% have the wrong beam pattern. correct the beam pattern issue and cops can pretty much go pound sand, as they are not lighting experts and cannot issue citations for things that are beyond their expertise. go to court and the officer will lose.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wookie384

Maybe the fact that you have a Silvia front was the reason why he pulled you over? Maybe he knows Silvia headlights are not DOT approved (therefore considered illegal in all 50 states of the U.S.A.).

theres no such thing as DOT approved, its called DOT compliant. the lighting manufacture would need to prove that the lights are compliant, not the consumer. all the consumer needs are lights with the proper markings

*Wookie384* · 06-07-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

in states that require inspection, sure. for that very same reason, the 96-98 180SX tail lights are not compliant either as they do not have the proper US markings... BUT, at the end of the day - its not about whats technically compliant as it its more about whats WRONG. the silvia headlights 100% have the wrong beam pattern. correct the beam pattern issue and cops can pretty much go pound sand, as they are not lighting experts and cannot issue citations for things that are beyond their expertise. go to court and the officer will lose.

theres no such thing as DOT approved, its called DOT compliant. the lighting manufacture would need to prove that the lights are compliant, not the consumer. all the consumer needs are lights with the proper markings

DOT approved, DOT compliant, same shit. Nitpick all you want, you know what my point is, either way headlights have to meet DOT's standards to be approved/compliant. Silvia headlights don't so they are not. It's like arguing how to pronounce tomato at this point. lol

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joeboo1 · 06-07-2012, 11:54 AM

I was told a long time ago that the silvia front end for the s13 was a factory option in the states but it was really expensive and that very few people got them.......anyone know if this true or was the person that told me that was talking out of his ass

typhoonslippery · 06-07-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by joeboo1

I was told a long time ago that the silvia front end for the s13 was a factory option in the states but it was really expensive and that very few people got them.......anyone know if this true or was the person that told me that was talking out of his ass

you both now seem to be talking out your ass

imnatelol · 06-07-2012, 12:12 PM

The state of California is hurting, they'll do anything fo a dolla

estanislao · 06-07-2012, 01:52 PM

comment above me is true cali is broke

*brndck* · 06-07-2012, 02:11 PM

Let's simplify. Does it have DOT approval?
No.
Therefore, it is illegal and the officer has the right to cite you. Not because he is being a dick, but because you broke a law. (yes it's minor, but whutev). The majority of "aftermarket" automotive lighting does not have DOT approval and is technically illegal, and Johnny law usually turns a blind eye, but that doesn't mean he is wrong in singling you out for this.

Silvia front end has NEVER been sold as a dealer option in the US; if I'm wrong, I dare someone to show me a NISSAN brochure from the US advertising it's availability.

joeboo1 · 06-07-2012, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by typhoonslippery

you both now seem to be talking out your ass

Really fuck-tard??!! seams like its that time of the month for you.

It was just a question.......a simple "not true" would have been just fine......cum bubble

FRpilot · 06-07-2012, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

There's a reason the 240SX coupe has popups. The S13 Silvia headlights did not comply to US standards, thus illegal.

yep. i think they failed for being too low.

delado · 06-07-2012, 02:47 PM

I daily drove this girl for quite a while. Never had problems with the cops. However, I could be wrong.

As some mentioned above, it could be that your car is put together half-assed and that's what arose the cop's attention.

06-06-2012, 01:43 PM	#1
estanislao Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cali, sgv Age: 29 Posts: 218 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	triple projectors illegal???? so last night i was cruising down a road, i saw a cop (checking for speed speed limit was 45 i was doing around 43) so i thought i was ok all of a sudden i see the lights in my rear view mirror i got stop. he asked for my paper work ect. and told me that i had been stop for my lights that they were illegal here in cali. i forgot to mention he didnt even care about my exhaust and that thing is pretty loud specially since its an n/a. has anyone here been stopped for this?

06-06-2012, 02:01 PM	#5
landins13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 986 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	if you have some bs aftermarket HID's in them then he had every right to pull you over for them. if youre still running the correct halogen bulbs i dont see why it would be an issue. __________________ NO HANDS IN PANTS!!

06-06-2012, 02:07 PM	#6
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	There's a reason the 240SX coupe has popups. The S13 Silvia headlights did not comply to US standards, thus illegal. __________________

06-06-2012, 05:31 PM	#13
blacksmith Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: www.metalpolishpro.com Age: 35 Posts: 54 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good time to upgrade to some bricks! __________________ www.metalpolishpro.com

06-07-2012, 07:59 AM	#20
conrad_s13.5 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: STL Age: 34 Posts: 1,533 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	[insert comment about being illegal...or something] __________________ cONtRol FReAkS

06-06-2012, 01:46 PM	#2
Edwin562 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Whittier (562) Age: 31 Posts: 4,721 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	Did he give a ticket for them??

06-06-2012, 01:52 PM	#3
ManoNegra Guild of Skullduggerous Intent Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Socal Posts: 7,841 Trader Rating: (48) Feedback Score: 48 reviews	lights are probably the typical glare-aimed-at-traffic-jdm-special kids love to 'upgrade' their piles with

06-06-2012, 02:00 PM	#4
silviaks2nr Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: SC Posts: 2,105 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Your car probably looks like a POS, that's why he pulled you over. And then he wanted to badger you about something so he picked the lights. And Technically they are RHD pattern and not suited for US roads. They illuminate further in the left lane (oncoming traffic) than in your lane, so the beam could have been directly in his face.

06-06-2012, 03:30 PM	#7
estanislao Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cali, sgv Age: 29 Posts: 218 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	no the cop was just been a dick good thing he didnt ticket me for modified exhaust

06-06-2012, 03:38 PM	#8
95zenki man Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NC Age: 28 Posts: 77 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I have never had a problem with cops saying anything about my trips or bricks... Its always "oh this cars to loud" or " sittin a little to low there arnt ya?" Its not illegal to have them and never has been. Hell just say its the stock lights and pull up a silvia on google or some bullshit. Or put the popups back on and stop bitching. Cops love moded cars, dont wonna deal with them? Dont put flashy shit and loud exhausts on your car.

06-06-2012, 03:44 PM	#9
estanislao Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cali, sgv Age: 29 Posts: 218 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	lol yeah i thought he was gonna tell me that i was loud but didnt even mention. andddd im not bitching about it im totally fine with it. it seems like he knew cus i did try to play it out as the car being like that stock but he was like no they are after market. so..... i blamed it on the previous owner. lol

06-06-2012, 05:19 PM	#12
ghost_silvia Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2009 Location: tx Posts: 455 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Retro fit them with usdm tsx projectors to correct the angle of the projectors .

06-06-2012, 05:59 PM	#15
estanislao Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cali, sgv Age: 29 Posts: 218 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	i was actually thinking about that upgrade... anyone up for the trade my triples for you bricks cash on my end

06-06-2012, 06:42 PM	#18
Perfect Balance Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 397 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Even with the light pattern fixed, they are still illegal simply because they don't have any kind of certification required to be legal in the US. All those markings in the housings mean something...

06-07-2012, 03:38 AM	#19
Wookie384 Premium Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: N. Hollywood / Burbank Age: 36 Posts: 766 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: Wookie384 Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Maybe the fact that you have a Silvia front was the reason why he pulled you over? Maybe he knows Silvia headlights are not DOT approved (therefore considered illegal in all 50 states of the U.S.A.).

06-07-2012, 11:54 AM	#23
joeboo1 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: sanfernando valley ca. Age: 41 Posts: 76 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I was told a long time ago that the silvia front end for the s13 was a factory option in the states but it was really expensive and that very few people got them.......anyone know if this true or was the person that told me that was talking out of his ass

06-07-2012, 12:12 PM	#25
imnatelol Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: duarte Age: 30 Posts: 543 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	The state of California is hurting, they'll do anything fo a dolla

06-07-2012, 01:52 PM	#26
estanislao Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Cali, sgv Age: 29 Posts: 218 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	comment above me is true cali is broke

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