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Boostage · 04-08-2008, 12:24 PM

Anyone here making over 400rwhp in an S car? s13 or s14 is it scary? hard to control? just want to have an idea of how it feels in these cars. I know in heavier cars mustangs/Camaro's its not soo bad.

Grenade180sx · 04-08-2008, 12:28 PM

its not scary unless you drive like an ass hole.

and it depends on what turbo is giving you the 400 horsepower.

a smaller responsive turbo will be very fun, but if your running a t66 boost will come in hardcore and things can get scary quick if your not ready for it.

Thursday · 04-08-2008, 12:39 PM

NA 400rwhp can be scary in a LS1 or other v8 swapped s chassis.

pm some of those guys and ask them how resposive it is.

kensreliableb18b · 04-08-2008, 12:39 PM

if you have to ask then it's not for you.

GSXRJJordan · 04-08-2008, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kensreliableb18b

if you have to ask then it's not for you.

I tend to have this attitude also.

Steve Shadows' car is definitely over 400whp, and seems very responsive. Just like anything else that has more power than grip, as soon as you floor it, you expect the back end to walk a bit if you're not pointed in a straight line.

Nothing is scary unless it's unexpected.

((sr)) kelly · 04-08-2008, 12:52 PM

if i ever get my car boosting right itll have over 400whp

Syncade · 04-08-2008, 12:54 PM

Any hp can be scary if you are on the right kind of road

I miss my Pennsylvania mountains so much

Living in states where it is flat is just torture when you grow up in hills

mugendork · 04-08-2008, 01:02 PM

400hp will only be scary your first time stepping on the throttle. Your driving style will definitely have to adjust, but you get used to it. The screwed up part is shortly after you hit that 2-3-4-5 hundred horsepower peak, it wont be enough. You get used to it..

((sr)) kelly · 04-08-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mugendork

400hp will only be scary your first time stepping on the throttle. Your driving style will definitely have to adjust, but you get used to it. The screwed up part is shortly after you hit that 2-3-4-5 hundred horsepower peak, it wont be enough. You get used to it..

Very true..... i went from 230whp to 330 whp and that was a blast for a few days.. im sure that the 400 whp rush will be short lived as well..

id have to say its not really the HP that scares you.. its the torque.. imo

***Future240*** · 04-08-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mugendork

400hp will only be scary your first time stepping on the throttle. Your driving style will definitely have to adjust, but you get used to it. The screwed up part is shortly after you hit that 2-3-4-5 hundred horsepower peak, it wont be enough. You get used to it..

Query, would you suggest then when building an engine, if your goal is 350 HP build it to withstand 600 HP that way when you reach your goal and get used to it, you dont have to rip the engine out and re-building to get more hp?

Also super newb question, if a KA, SR and RB 20/25/26 were all running at 500 HP would the cars feel significantly different other than torque?

Full-Lock · 04-08-2008, 02:24 PM

its not hard to get used to

steve shadows · 04-08-2008, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boostage

Anyone here making over 400rwhp in an S car? s13 or s14 is it scary? hard to control? just want to have an idea of how it feels in these cars. I know in heavier cars mustangs/Camaro's its not soo bad.

yes

.

hard to control

depends

tires not hot? yes

tires too hot? yes

too much air in tires yes?

do I need bigger stickier tires? yes.

Is it fun getting sideways in 3rd sometimes? yes.

semi-laggy? barely.

3076R- 18 psi - 91 octane - Red Top - Haltech - Greddy IM - 264 HKS

ive noticed laggier but with 50 more whp is easier to control.

Also not quite as fast on the street. Fast at track though (old setup with T61)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-Lock

its not hard to get used to

graph please

mydogsdrift · 04-08-2008, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mugendork

400hp will only be scary your first time stepping on the throttle. Your driving style will definitely have to adjust, but you get used to it. The screwed up part is shortly after you hit that 2-3-4-5 hundred horsepower peak, it wont be enough. You get used to it..

Exactly. I'm over 400whp and I got used to it. It scares the hell out of people riding with me but it feels like a sentra to me now.

Zerolift Autolab · 04-08-2008, 03:15 PM

My S14 Made 469rwhp with Built SR 3071R, AEM + much more obviously

The car is alot of fun, with the proper tire fitment, alignment setup and most important - not driving it like a complete Jacka$$.

steve shadows · 04-08-2008, 03:17 PM

Yeah I get jaded pretty fast.

But then again with a 2400 lb weight (2600 with me)

it's a little more knuts then a soaking wet s14 with 450whp

I already have the itch, I want to build the other block I got then go for 500whp at 28 psi.

I mean if im at 405-410whp on the dyno dynamics at 18 lol - It should be plausible - the math on paper says so at least.

Ive just been beating on this stock bottom end for 2+ years now at that power level, I want a refreshed set of pistons at least.

anyways im just blabbing

Full-Lock · 04-08-2008, 03:38 PM

rowdogg03 · 04-08-2008, 04:31 PM

wow...nice numbers..

steve shadows · 04-08-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Full-Lock

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cool none-the less.

torque leaves something to be desired? less than 250 under 5500?

what is that a T66-T3?

*Nismoknightska-t* · 04-08-2008, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve shadows

cool none-the less.

torque leaves something to be desired? less than 250 under 5500?

what is that a T66-T3?

that has to be a sr20...

steve shadows · 04-08-2008, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismoknightska-t

that has to be a sr20...

I make over 345 peak and over 300 from 4400-7

I have an sr (thats on a real dyno too haha)

16 psi -18 psi 91 octane

the spike is actually the boost controller over correcting (down to 15-16 then back up to 19 by the end of that slope), fixed it since then, should make even more power and torque now.

Full-Lock · 04-08-2008, 05:39 PM

thanks guys

na
rb26 w/ 2 hks gt2530 turbos
aem standalone

yea
torque

Koopa Troopa · 04-08-2008, 06:01 PM

Engine is 450 some capable however I am far from there right now

For a car with a T04S and 270 cams my car is extremely responsive.. Hell the T88 180 I raced seemed pretty responsive too...

steve shadows · 04-08-2008, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-Lock

thanks guys

na
rb26 w/ 2 hks gt2530 turbos
aem standalone

yea
torque

Just tuner. probably

Probably has more potential.

Full-Lock · 04-08-2008, 07:15 PM

yea my car did dyno 650whp with its old tune/standalone, super unreliable though..
which is why it was changed

yea
i dunno

the tuner is ivan from AMS..he has the quickest ka-t in the world i believe..
i was going to bring it back up there this summer and have him mess with it again..

250sxdet · 04-08-2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Full-Lock

thanks guys

na
rb26 w/ 2 hks gt2530 turbos
aem standalone

yea
torque

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...0.html&hl=dyno

Heres a thread with rb26's with a bunch of different turbo setups. I think your setup is good for 550+whp and 450+ tq. I have a rb26 with 2510's waiting to be put in a track car...that should yield 500whp and 400ish lb tq. Def get your setup retuned.

donabeast · 04-08-2008, 07:45 PM

i went from a shit ass civic to the sil80 i got like a month ago and im def used to it already the guy i bought it from said it was puting down 400+rwhp but i havent seen a dyno sheet yet 130mph in third kinda has me thinkin hes telling the truth but im def used to the power and will be finishing up the top end here in the next month or two

godzillarb · 04-08-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 250sxdet

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...0.html&hl=dyno

Heres a thread with rb26's with a bunch of different turbo setups. I think your setup is good for 550+whp and 450+ tq. I have a rb26 with 2510's waiting to be put in a track car...that should yield 500whp and 400ish lb tq. Def get your setup retuned.

I was thinking the same thing, the power band for the 26s isn't usually that steep from what I've seen. Are you running stock cams? That might be the issue...

McRussellPants · 04-08-2008, 07:56 PM

Straight line 60mm+ turbos are boring, they're really lazy so you have alot of warning before you have to start pedaling it.

3071/3076 can get intresting drifting/racing. You just have to pay attention to where your RPM is more, beacaue if it catches you out of boost and then hits in, its a bitch to catch.

Other than that its all cake.

then again, if you drive like a chump you'll think everything is scary.

2,1 · 04-08-2008, 10:58 PM

man I have a stock Ka and I think that is fast, so if I jumped into a 400hp 240 im sure I would get a hard on (;

SuicidnS13 · 04-08-2008, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2,1

man I have a stock Ka and I think that is fast, so if I jumped into a 400hp 240 im sure I would get a hard on (;

LOL -stock KA fast- Ive heard em all now... (;

04-08-2008, 12:24 PM	#1
Boostage Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 220 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Anyone over 400rwhp? Anyone here making over 400rwhp in an S car? s13 or s14 is it scary? hard to control? just want to have an idea of how it feels in these cars. I know in heavier cars mustangs/Camaro's its not soo bad.

04-08-2008, 02:24 PM	#11
Full-Lock Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ILLinois Posts: 1,765 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Full-Lock Feedback Score: 0 reviews	its not hard to get used to __________________

04-08-2008, 03:17 PM	#15
steve shadows Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: LA and OC Posts: 8,202 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Yeah I get jaded pretty fast. But then again with a 2400 lb weight (2600 with me) it's a little more knuts then a soaking wet s14 with 450whp I already have the itch, I want to build the other block I got then go for 500whp at 28 psi. I mean if im at 405-410whp on the dyno dynamics at 18 lol - It should be plausible - the math on paper says so at least. Ive just been beating on this stock bottom end for 2+ years now at that power level, I want a refreshed set of pistons at least. anyways im just blabbing __________________ Like Me on FaceBook !

04-08-2008, 03:38 PM	#16
Full-Lock Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ILLinois Posts: 1,765 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Full-Lock Feedback Score: 0 reviews	__________________

04-08-2008, 04:31 PM	#17
rowdogg03 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego Age: 36 Posts: 249 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	wow...nice numbers.. __________________ Dippin

04-08-2008, 12:28 PM	#2
Grenade180sx Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 909/951 Age: 33 Posts: 2,455 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	its not scary unless you drive like an ass hole. and it depends on what turbo is giving you the 400 horsepower. a smaller responsive turbo will be very fun, but if your running a t66 boost will come in hardcore and things can get scary quick if your not ready for it.

04-08-2008, 12:39 PM	#3
Thursday Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Leandro, CA Age: 34 Posts: 778 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	NA 400rwhp can be scary in a LS1 or other v8 swapped s chassis. pm some of those guys and ask them how resposive it is.

04-08-2008, 12:39 PM	#4
kensreliableb18b Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: so cal - 626, 909, 562 and 949. 818 if i feel like running away Posts: 945 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	if you have to ask then it's not for you.

04-08-2008, 12:52 PM	#6
((sr)) kelly BANNED Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Zebulon... NC Posts: 1,035 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	if i ever get my car boosting right itll have over 400whp

04-08-2008, 12:54 PM	#7
Syncade Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,250 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Any hp can be scary if you are on the right kind of road I miss my Pennsylvania mountains so much Living in states where it is flat is just torture when you grow up in hills

04-08-2008, 01:02 PM	#8
mugendork Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vista CA Age: 35 Posts: 339 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	400hp will only be scary your first time stepping on the throttle. Your driving style will definitely have to adjust, but you get used to it. The screwed up part is shortly after you hit that 2-3-4-5 hundred horsepower peak, it wont be enough. You get used to it..

04-08-2008, 03:15 PM	#14
Zerolift Autolab Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fairfield, OH 45014 Age: 38 Posts: 2,804 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	My S14 Made 469rwhp with Built SR 3071R, AEM + much more obviously The car is alot of fun, with the proper tire fitment, alignment setup and most important - not driving it like a complete Jacka$$.

04-08-2008, 05:39 PM	#21
Full-Lock Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ILLinois Posts: 1,765 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Full-Lock Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks guys na rb26 w/ 2 hks gt2530 turbos aem standalone yea torque __________________

04-08-2008, 06:01 PM	#22
Koopa Troopa Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 北谷著, 沖縄県、日本 Posts: 2,565 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Engine is 450 some capable however I am far from there right now For a car with a T04S and 270 cams my car is extremely responsive.. Hell the T88 180 I raced seemed pretty responsive too... __________________ Buy my Stillway shifter!

04-08-2008, 07:15 PM	#24
Full-Lock Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ILLinois Posts: 1,765 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Full-Lock Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea my car did dyno 650whp with its old tune/standalone, super unreliable though.. which is why it was changed yea i dunno the tuner is ivan from AMS..he has the quickest ka-t in the world i believe.. i was going to bring it back up there this summer and have him mess with it again.. __________________

04-08-2008, 07:45 PM	#26
donabeast Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: camarillo Age: 35 Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i went from a shit ass civic to the sil80 i got like a month ago and im def used to it already the guy i bought it from said it was puting down 400+rwhp but i havent seen a dyno sheet yet 130mph in third kinda has me thinkin hes telling the truth but im def used to the power and will be finishing up the top end here in the next month or two

04-08-2008, 07:56 PM	#28
McRussellPants Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 2,168 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Straight line 60mm+ turbos are boring, they're really lazy so you have alot of warning before you have to start pedaling it. 3071/3076 can get intresting drifting/racing. You just have to pay attention to where your RPM is more, beacaue if it catches you out of boost and then hits in, its a bitch to catch. Other than that its all cake. then again, if you drive like a chump you'll think everything is scary.

04-08-2008, 10:58 PM	#29
2,1 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tampa, Florida Age: 34 Posts: 59 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	man I have a stock Ka and I think that is fast, so if I jumped into a 400hp 240 im sure I would get a hard on (;

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