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kandyflip445 · 11-03-2009, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sephiroth99

Basically, 120Hz TV were introduced so that, when viewing a video source at 24fps (example, a blu-ray at 1080p24), the TV won't have to do a 3:2 pulldown.

"Normal" TVs running at 60Hz have a problem displaying 24 different images when updating the screen 60 times. 60/24 = 2.5 but the TV can't update half the screen. So the third time, it "merges" the current frame with the next frame to make a "transition" frame. That's 3:2 pulldown. see : Projector People : 3:2 Pulldown Explained

But if you are updating 120 times each second, 120/24 = 5 . So, the TV updates 5 times for each new frame it receives.

People may say it's also to remove motion blur, but I think it's more a placebo effect than anything. For example, most of us are running a LCD on our computers at 60Hz, and we watch movies with no problem at all.

hope it clears things up a little, I can explain differently if needed

Hit that on the head. There are/were some tvs that could do 72hz also.

To keep from blurring on an LCD you want to look for a low response time more than anything.

mrchomponthis · 11-03-2009, 11:28 PM

SAMSUNG OR LG get a lcd I <3 for the lack of glare

SochBAT · 11-04-2009, 02:35 AM

Dearest Mel.

Calibration of the image is the same as with older TVs.

Set the contrast, hue, saturation, all that good jive.

The Song XMB (Cross Media bar) is a lot more easier to work with when it comes to that, but again, it does the same thing other TVs do, just more simplified.

You can also have it set to different modes, game/tv/movie/dim.

*exitspeed* · 11-05-2009, 02:36 PM

Any brands that you guys suggest I stay away from? Sony, LG, Phillips, Magnavox, Panasonic, Sharp, Toshiba? Or for the most part are TV's in the $500-$1000 range with similiar specs going to be about the same?

kensreliableb18b · 11-05-2009, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

Any brands that you guys suggest I stay away from? Sony, LG, Phillips, Magnavox, Panasonic, Sharp, Toshiba? Or for the most part are TV's in the $500-$1000 range with similiar specs going to be about the same?

yea, westinghouse, dont buy that crap.

i'd stick with either panasonic or samsung--good quality for the buck.

some of you guys talking smack about plasmas are retarded. talking out of your asses cuz you hear bad stuff from word of mouth and the thing we call the internet.

tricky_ab · 11-05-2009, 06:05 PM

I would stick to Sharp, Sony, Panasonic and Samsung...

innovation · 11-05-2009, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kensreliableb18b

yea, westinghouse, dont buy that crap.

i'd stick with either panasonic or samsung--good quality for the buck.

some of you guys talking smack about plasmas are retarded. talking out of your asses cuz you hear bad stuff from word of mouth and the thing we call the internet.

I have a 1080p 42' westinghouse. Bought it two years ago and still running strong. It has nice image color, I would recommend it. No dead pixels either!

Gnnr · 11-05-2009, 09:44 PM

And read up here:

Practical Home Theater Guide: Systems Reviews and Home Theater Design

Otto347 · 11-13-2009, 03:26 PM

What about the HDMI cables? Im going to pick up a 46" samsung tonight and saw there are $8 cables and $80 cables. I understand that the $8 cables might not be "as good" as the $80 but would there be a difference from the $8 to say a $25 cable?

Kaizen. · 12-05-2009, 03:12 AM

sorry for bumping but its better than starting a new thread.

I want to know your imputs on Sony Bravia. Im planning on picking a 46 inch up LCD, 120hz i think. Sony any good?

***S14DB*** · 12-05-2009, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto347

What about the HDMI cables? Im going to pick up a 46" samsung tonight and saw there are $8 cables and $80 cables. I understand that the $8 cables might not be "as good" as the $80 but would there be a difference from the $8 to say a $25 cable?

It's a digital cable. As long as it meets basic specs they are all the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoKidd

sorry for bumping but its better than starting a new thread.

I want to know your imputs on Sony Bravia. Im planning on picking a 46 inch up LCD, 120hz i think. Sony any good?

Sony is good.

**ThatGuy** · 12-05-2009, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoKidd

I want to know your imputs on Sony Bravia. Im planning on picking a 46 inch up LCD, 120hz i think. Sony any good?

I've had mine for a little less than a year now. Sony Bravia, Z Series, 46", 120Hz, LCD.

I am extremely happy with it. Picked it up through Amazon on an "open box" special. Only thing wrong with it, was it was missing 4 screws to attach it to the stand. Didn't bother me, since I mounted it to the wall anyway.

Great TV though. I am actually considering moving this 46" Z series into my bedroom, and upgrading to a 52", 240Hz XBR series for my livingroom.

tricky_ab · 12-05-2009, 09:03 AM

^^The XBR9 is a great model, From what I've seen in the stores its a top contender (I'm looking at buying the 52" model). The only thing that still scares me is the bright edges and the clouding of the screens. I've seen it first hand on a few sets but nothing CRAZY. It's either that or the new Samsung 55B7000 LED edge lit set...

***S14DB*** · 12-05-2009, 09:13 AM

Clouding is people cleaning with windex.

Don't get an edge lit LED. You will notice the light balance in the dark. Get a back lit.

tricky_ab · 12-05-2009, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

Clouding is people cleaning with windex.

Don't get an edge lit LED. You will notice the light balance in the dark. Get a back lit.

Sony Z series...

Samsung B series...

Eh, Sony and Samsung still have this problem. I've seen it first hand and my first Sony 1080P set I bought a few years ago had it out of the box (I exchanged it for another one, and never looked back).

I have played around with the B series and you can turn off the CE dimming in the service menu...

*DALAZ_68* · 12-05-2009, 11:34 AM

so...since im running cable, i needa get an hd converter right?

***S14DB*** · 12-05-2009, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DALAZ_68

so...since im running cable, i needa get an hd converter right?

Do you have digital cable? Get a HD box from the cable company.

If not, most HDTVs support Digital QAM. So, you can get the basic CHs in HD.

Daniel. · 12-05-2009, 01:26 PM

For those of you looking to purchase cheap, high quality cables I've been getting mine from HDMI Cable, Home Theater Accessories, HDMI Products, Cables, Adapters, Video/Audio Switch, Networking, USB, Firewire, Printer Toner, and more!

You can't beat $4 4foot HDMI cables.
HDMI 1.3 Cable

I've been using these for 3 years with no problems, and no noticable picture degradation over my friend's $12390812038120 Monster cables.

NiSilS14 · 12-05-2009, 01:35 PM

I have a samsung 52" 1080p LCD tv. I think we've had for about six months now, no problems. Shit rocks house especially when i'm playing xbox on it, then again i'm coming from a tube.

***S14DB*** · 12-05-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel.

For those of you looking to purchase cheap, high quality cables I've been getting mine from HDMI Cable, Home Theater Accessories, HDMI Products, Cables, Adapters, Video/Audio Switch, Networking, USB, Firewire, Printer Toner, and more!

You can't beat $4 4foot HDMI cables.
HDMI 1.3 Cable

I've been using these for 3 years with no problems, and no noticable picture degradation over my friend's $12390812038120 Monster cables.

Yeah monoprice is awesome. Spec cables at a good price.

You will not notice any difference. HDMI is digital it ether works or you have a black screen.

Kaizen. · 12-06-2009, 02:30 AM

Def good info.

So im getting

Sony 46inch Vseries LCD 1080p 120hz
PS3 Slim 120gb
1 bluray movie
1 game

for 950 b4 taxes.

Best Buy is having a deal tomorow. Bouta go early and grap that bundle. I was looking to buy a PS3 anyways so mind as well swoop on a TV too. Im going to see if I can get the W series since I heard they were selling it for cheaper and it was the higher model, didnt make sense to me but thats what the guys at bestbuy were saying.

*DALAZ_68* · 12-06-2009, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

Do you have digital cable? Get a HD box from the cable company.

If not, most HDTVs support Digital QAM. So, you can get the basic CHs in HD.

1. no
2. my dad ordered a package that only works thru his box (living room t.v.). if i hook up to a box in my room, wont it cause to default to his cable package ?
which is pretty much spanish channels...

Digital QAM... how do i set it?

WISH ONE · 04-29-2010, 11:40 AM

Bringing back an old thread, I just moved and im looking for a new TV.
Been looking around and still debating wether to get led or lcd, either 46 or 52.
Read a couple reviews, but im not an electronics wiz. Ive got up to 2k to spend any suggestions, obviously the less expensive the better.

Gnnr · 04-29-2010, 11:48 AM

For the size, what is the viewing distance?

You can read about some of the pros/cons of LED TVs here. I'm not sold on it.

The Complete LCD TV Guide: System Guidelines and LCD HDTV Reviews

ronmcdon · 04-29-2010, 12:05 PM

You really dont even need to spend 2k.
Non led 46" are going for around 7-800
leds around 1400.

I got a sony led for around 1500 about a month ago.
Personally i like the leds, but i dont care for paying premium on higher refresh rates over 60hz.
I seldom watch sports.
(if i do its at friends' homes).

WISH ONE · 04-29-2010, 12:35 PM

I dont want to spend 2k lol, but thats the max budget... if i can find something for $1000 im game.
Thanks for info and links.
Im still debating on wether I will be satisfied with a 46 or if I should fork up a tad more and get a 52.

SimpleS14 · 04-29-2010, 03:29 PM

I ended up getting he Samsung LN40C630 40" LCD TV for my room and LOVE it. I use it for my PS3 and my desktop, both connected via HDMI. I went with this because it's Samsung's 2010 model series and its cheaper/better than the last years model.

Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036WT3P2

I went with LCD vs. LED because it's a technology that has gone through it's developing pains and has come to a point that the imperfections are minimal.

This particular TV looks nice and it's on a TV stand, so weight was not a concern. On top of that, I just couldn't beat the price for what I get at the time I bought it.

ronmcdon · 04-29-2010, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WISH ONE

I dont want to spend 2k lol, but thats the max budget... if i can find something for $1000 im game.
Thanks for info and links.
Im still debating on wether I will be satisfied with a 46 or if I should fork up a tad more and get a 52.

Well that's just something you have to go check out for yourself at the store.
personally I went with 46 b/c I use it as my computer monitor.
for LED's figure it's around $700-$1k to go from 46 to 55 (I have not noticed 52's).

It's just a matter of personal preference & how much you're willing to spend.
Realistically only you are the best judge of what you'll be satified with, needless to say.

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12-05-2009, 03:12 AM	#40
Kaizen. Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,278 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	sorry for bumping but its better than starting a new thread. I want to know your imputs on Sony Bravia. Im planning on picking a 46 inch up LCD, 120hz i think. Sony any good? __________________

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*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Clouding is people cleaning with windex. Don't get an edge lit LED. You will notice the light balance in the dark. Get a back lit. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

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mrchomponthis Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: fghjghjfg Age: 33 Posts: 877 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	SAMSUNG OR LG get a lcd I <3 for the lack of glare

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SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Dearest Mel. Calibration of the image is the same as with older TVs. Set the contrast, hue, saturation, all that good jive. The Song XMB (Cross Media bar) is a lot more easier to work with when it comes to that, but again, it does the same thing other TVs do, just more simplified. You can also have it set to different modes, game/tv/movie/dim.

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12-05-2009, 09:03 AM	#43
tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,413 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	^^The XBR9 is a great model, From what I've seen in the stores its a top contender (I'm looking at buying the 52" model). The only thing that still scares me is the bright edges and the clouding of the screens. I've seen it first hand on a few sets but nothing CRAZY. It's either that or the new Samsung 55B7000 LED edge lit set...

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Daniel. Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 36 Posts: 3,713 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Daniel. Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For those of you looking to purchase cheap, high quality cables I've been getting mine from HDMI Cable, Home Theater Accessories, HDMI Products, Cables, Adapters, Video/Audio Switch, Networking, USB, Firewire, Printer Toner, and more! You can't beat $4 4foot HDMI cables. HDMI 1.3 Cable I've been using these for 3 years with no problems, and no noticable picture degradation over my friend's $12390812038120 Monster cables. __________________

12-05-2009, 01:35 PM	#49
NiSilS14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 562 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	I have a samsung 52" 1080p LCD tv. I think we've had for about six months now, no problems. Shit rocks house especially when i'm playing xbox on it, then again i'm coming from a tube.

12-06-2009, 02:30 AM	#51
Kaizen. Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 1,278 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Def good info. So im getting Sony 46inch Vseries LCD 1080p 120hz PS3 Slim 120gb 1 bluray movie 1 game for 950 b4 taxes. Best Buy is having a deal tomorow. Bouta go early and grap that bundle. I was looking to buy a PS3 anyways so mind as well swoop on a TV too. Im going to see if I can get the W series since I heard they were selling it for cheaper and it was the higher model, didnt make sense to me but thats what the guys at bestbuy were saying. __________________

04-29-2010, 11:40 AM	#53
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,738 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Bringing back an old thread, I just moved and im looking for a new TV. Been looking around and still debating wether to get led or lcd, either 46 or 52. Read a couple reviews, but im not an electronics wiz. Ive got up to 2k to spend any suggestions, obviously the less expensive the better. __________________ PARTING/SELLING MY COUPE. PM ME.

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Gnnr Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S. FL Posts: 3,960 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	For the size, what is the viewing distance? You can read about some of the pros/cons of LED TVs here. I'm not sold on it. The Complete LCD TV Guide: System Guidelines and LCD HDTV Reviews __________________

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ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	You really dont even need to spend 2k. Non led 46" are going for around 7-800 leds around 1400. I got a sony led for around 1500 about a month ago. Personally i like the leds, but i dont care for paying premium on higher refresh rates over 60hz. I seldom watch sports. (if i do its at friends' homes).

04-29-2010, 12:35 PM	#56
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,738 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	I dont want to spend 2k lol, but thats the max budget... if i can find something for $1000 im game. Thanks for info and links. Im still debating on wether I will be satisfied with a 46 or if I should fork up a tad more and get a 52. __________________ PARTING/SELLING MY COUPE. PM ME.

04-29-2010, 03:29 PM	#57
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 38 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I ended up getting he Samsung LN40C630 40" LCD TV for my room and LOVE it. I use it for my PS3 and my desktop, both connected via HDMI. I went with this because it's Samsung's 2010 model series and its cheaper/better than the last years model. Link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036WT3P2 I went with LCD vs. LED because it's a technology that has gone through it's developing pains and has come to a point that the imperfections are minimal. This particular TV looks nice and it's on a TV stand, so weight was not a concern. On top of that, I just couldn't beat the price for what I get at the time I bought it. __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

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