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jdkruger4 · 01-07-2002, 04:00 PM

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What</a> you guys think?

BlankFlip · 01-07-2002, 04:03 PM

if the price don't go up much i think it will mysteriously break sometime soon after their 3 month warranty.

Kid Zelda · 01-07-2002, 04:06 PM

Yes, its ebay, the price is always low at first, then it will go up !

But beware, its a first time seller, but so is the buyer that has the highest bid right now.

twofortysx · 01-07-2002, 04:19 PM

WHOA!

*WARNING - that guy is a fraud!

Check this thread from the NICO 240sx board:
<a href="http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/001262.html

If" target="_blank">http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/001262.html

If</a> you click on the second ebay link down in that thread you will see that it is the SAME seller page and everything. BE CAREFUL buying from this clown.

gh6o6 · 01-07-2002, 04:20 PM

if you notice, is says "reserve not yet met" net to the price and hers the explaniation of a reserve right from ebay:
Q. What is a Reserve Price Auction?
A. A Reserve Price Auction is an auction where the seller has set a minimum price for which he/she is willing to sell their item. The lowest price a seller is willing to accept for an item is called the "reserve price."
Bidders know there's a reserve price, but not what it is.
In order to win the auction, a bidder must meet or exceed the reserve price and have the highest bid.
If no bidders meet the reserve price, neither the seller nor the high bidder are under any further obligation to complete the transaction.

in simpler terms, lets say i have an sr20det and want to sell it for $500 or more but want to start the biddint at $100. i enter 500 as the reserve (which you dont know) and start the bidding at 100.  bidding goes until lets say $350, and because the person bidding 350 doesent meet the 500 reserve i have no obligation to sell my sr

hope i helped

BlankFlip · 01-07-2002, 04:27 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from gh6o6 on 6:20 pm on Jan. 7, 2002
if you notice, is says "reserve not yet met" net to the price and hers the explaniation of a reserve right from ebay:
Q. What is a Reserve Price Auction?
A. A Reserve Price Auction is an auction where the seller has set a minimum price for which he/she is willing to sell their item. The lowest price a seller is willing to accept for an item is called the "reserve price."
Bidders know there's a reserve price, but not what it is.
In order to win the auction, a bidder must meet or exceed the reserve price and have the highest bid.
If no bidders meet the reserve price, neither the seller nor the high bidder are under any further obligation to complete the transaction.

in simpler terms, lets say i have an sr20det and want to sell it for $500 or more but want to start the biddint at $100. i enter 500 as the reserve (which you dont know) and start the bidding at 100. bidding goes until lets say $350, and because the person bidding 350 doesent meet the 500 reserve i have no obligation to sell my sr

hope i helped</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

i think we understand that aspect of it, the question is if it's a bad deal or not. that link that twofortysx put here makes the whole think suck, i guess it's the same person, just that he's not putting stupid facts up there.

alchemist · 01-07-2002, 04:40 PM

this guy is a fraud,  he was selling red tops saying that they were newer than physically possible, saying that a 1996 motor was a redtop when only blacktops were made....plus look at the 25k miles he says are on them....no one will say that....there is no way that engine has less than 25k on it

*AceInHole* · 01-07-2002, 04:48 PM

this guy strikes again?? It looks like he changed his ads a bit from when I was harassing all his bidders.  His facts STILL aren't right!!!

First off, it it says :"The SR20DET engine will fit in almost any Nissan 240sx " he's pretty much saying they made an S13 or S14 that didn't have a KA24DE, or that the engine isn't a RWD SR (which won't fit any S13 or S14 anyways).  
1994 and up came black top...
Redline is 7500
Doesn't mention ECU or ignitor chip (first things to look for, with UNCUT harness)

Finally, that engine is dirtier than mine with 107,000 miles on it.... no way in #### that engine has less than 25,000 miles.

BlankFlip · 01-07-2002, 04:59 PM

can't he get into like legal trouble for this or anything?

alchemist · 01-07-2002, 05:09 PM

honestly he'll never get in legal trouble...the cops have more important stuff than to deal with a "questionable sale of 2000$.  He is basically like a bad used car salesman...while technically they can go after him/her, they wont bc he's a small fish.  Ebay can go after him, but he has to screw over a lot of buyers first

*AceInHole* · 01-07-2002, 05:09 PM

not sure if he's legally responsible... i guess it's a private sale....  
he should be responsible though... is there any way to contact ebay?  i tried to for a bit before and couldn't figure out where to go.

chickenmanq · 01-07-2002, 05:33 PM

Does it look to you like they photochopped intercooler and turbo on the valve cover? Why wouldn't it have said intercoolED turbo on it? Or just turbo? Much less, look at the junk heap that engine is in. If you look at the bigger pictures, you'll see it looks like it's in a factory of wrecked engines. Also, 350 bucks for less than 25000 miles is absolute bullshit. Unless you're buying it from a really good friend. You can't even find a KA for that price. Big scam. I'm gonna try to contact ebay. I'll give them this thread.

(Edited by chickenmanq at 5:34 pm on Jan. 7, 2002)

gh6o6 · 01-07-2002, 05:47 PM

someone ask for the vin

chickenmanq · 01-07-2002, 06:17 PM

I sent an email to another facet of ebay.  ([email protected])  I couldn't find anywhere to email regarding fraud without becoming a member, and I don't use ebay, nor do I like it.  Anyway, gave them this post address, which is why I'm not going to cuss them out for making it so #### hard to report a simple identity check.  Hopefully, whoever gets the email will forward it to where it needs to go.  F#$%ing spent 30 minutes going back on forth on that stupid help topic crap.  

NOSfEDs12vh45dett · 01-07-2002, 08:04 PM

I wonder if the engine is out of a 91' sunny GTiR.

sspikey · 01-07-2002, 08:24 PM

ok im gonna sound like grandpa here but dont trust ANYONE over the net or phone with your credit card. i work in telemarketing and see this bullshit all day long. if you havent seen the product with your own eyes dont even bother. unless its somewhere really respectable.

my240likenoother · 01-07-2002, 08:27 PM

looking at the red cover is saying to me that the engine has been beat  to shit all the cut hoses and i dout that the harnes isnt cut

I smell something funny!!!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>??

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01-07-2002, 04:00 PM	#1
jdkruger4 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 139 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600194475&r=0&t=0 What" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot.... What</a> you guys think?

01-07-2002, 04:03 PM	#2
BlankFlip Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Future Posts: 1,627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if the price don't go up much i think it will mysteriously break sometime soon after their 3 month warranty.

01-07-2002, 04:06 PM	#3
Kid Zelda BANNED Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,347 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes, its ebay, the price is always low at first, then it will go up ! But beware, its a first time seller, but so is the buyer that has the highest bid right now.

01-07-2002, 04:19 PM	#4
twofortysx Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 491 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	WHOA! *WARNING - that guy is a fraud! Check this thread from the NICO 240sx board: <a href="http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/001262.html If" target="_blank">http://www.nissaninfiniticlub.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/001262.html If</a> you click on the second ebay link down in that thread you will see that it is the SAME seller page and everything. BE CAREFUL buying from this clown.

01-07-2002, 04:20 PM	#5
gh6o6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you notice, is says "reserve not yet met" net to the price and hers the explaniation of a reserve right from ebay: Q. What is a Reserve Price Auction? A. A Reserve Price Auction is an auction where the seller has set a minimum price for which he/she is willing to sell their item. The lowest price a seller is willing to accept for an item is called the "reserve price." Bidders know there's a reserve price, but not what it is. In order to win the auction, a bidder must meet or exceed the reserve price and have the highest bid. If no bidders meet the reserve price, neither the seller nor the high bidder are under any further obligation to complete the transaction. in simpler terms, lets say i have an sr20det and want to sell it for $500 or more but want to start the biddint at $100. i enter 500 as the reserve (which you dont know) and start the bidding at 100.  bidding goes until lets say $350, and because the person bidding 350 doesent meet the 500 reserve i have no obligation to sell my sr hope i helped

01-07-2002, 04:27 PM	#6
BlankFlip Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Future Posts: 1,627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from gh6o6 on 6:20 pm on Jan. 7, 2002 if you notice, is says "reserve not yet met" net to the price and hers the explaniation of a reserve right from ebay: Q. What is a Reserve Price Auction? A. A Reserve Price Auction is an auction where the seller has set a minimum price for which he/she is willing to sell their item. The lowest price a seller is willing to accept for an item is called the "reserve price." Bidders know there's a reserve price, but not what it is. In order to win the auction, a bidder must meet or exceed the reserve price and have the highest bid. If no bidders meet the reserve price, neither the seller nor the high bidder are under any further obligation to complete the transaction. in simpler terms, lets say i have an sr20det and want to sell it for $500 or more but want to start the biddint at $100. i enter 500 as the reserve (which you dont know) and start the bidding at 100. bidding goes until lets say $350, and because the person bidding 350 doesent meet the 500 reserve i have no obligation to sell my sr hope i helped</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> i think we understand that aspect of it, the question is if it's a bad deal or not. that link that twofortysx put here makes the whole think suck, i guess it's the same person, just that he's not putting stupid facts up there.

01-07-2002, 04:40 PM	#7
alchemist Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 192 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this guy is a fraud,  he was selling red tops saying that they were newer than physically possible, saying that a 1996 motor was a redtop when only blacktops were made....plus look at the 25k miles he says are on them....no one will say that....there is no way that engine has less than 25k on it

01-07-2002, 04:48 PM	#8
AceInHole Autox Technician Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New Haven, CT Age: 40 Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: AceInHole Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this guy strikes again?? It looks like he changed his ads a bit from when I was harassing all his bidders.  His facts STILL aren't right!!! First off, it it says :"The SR20DET engine will fit in almost any Nissan 240sx " he's pretty much saying they made an S13 or S14 that didn't have a KA24DE, or that the engine isn't a RWD SR (which won't fit any S13 or S14 anyways).   1994 and up came black top... Redline is 7500 Doesn't mention ECU or ignitor chip (first things to look for, with UNCUT harness) Finally, that engine is dirtier than mine with 107,000 miles on it.... no way in #### that engine has less than 25,000 miles.

01-07-2002, 04:59 PM	#9
BlankFlip Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Future Posts: 1,627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	can't he get into like legal trouble for this or anything?

01-07-2002, 05:09 PM	#10
alchemist Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 192 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	honestly he'll never get in legal trouble...the cops have more important stuff than to deal with a "questionable sale of 2000$.  He is basically like a bad used car salesman...while technically they can go after him/her, they wont bc he's a small fish.  Ebay can go after him, but he has to screw over a lot of buyers first

01-07-2002, 05:33 PM	#12
chickenmanq Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Does it look to you like they photochopped intercooler and turbo on the valve cover? Why wouldn't it have said intercoolED turbo on it? Or just turbo? Much less, look at the junk heap that engine is in. If you look at the bigger pictures, you'll see it looks like it's in a factory of wrecked engines. Also, 350 bucks for less than 25000 miles is absolute bullshit. Unless you're buying it from a really good friend. You can't even find a KA for that price. Big scam. I'm gonna try to contact ebay. I'll give them this thread. (Edited by chickenmanq at 5:34 pm on Jan. 7, 2002)

01-07-2002, 05:47 PM	#13
gh6o6 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	someone ask for the vin

01-07-2002, 06:17 PM	#14
chickenmanq Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,000 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I sent an email to another facet of ebay.  ([email protected])  I couldn't find anywhere to email regarding fraud without becoming a member, and I don't use ebay, nor do I like it.  Anyway, gave them this post address, which is why I'm not going to cuss them out for making it so #### hard to report a simple identity check.  Hopefully, whoever gets the email will forward it to where it needs to go.  F#$%ing spent 30 minutes going back on forth on that stupid help topic crap.

01-07-2002, 08:04 PM	#15
NOSfEDs12vh45dett Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 92 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wonder if the engine is out of a 91' sunny GTiR.

01-07-2002, 08:24 PM	#16
sspikey Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 394 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok im gonna sound like grandpa here but dont trust ANYONE over the net or phone with your credit card. i work in telemarketing and see this bullshit all day long. if you havent seen the product with your own eyes dont even bother. unless its somewhere really respectable.

01-07-2002, 08:27 PM	#17
my240likenoother Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	looking at the red cover is saying to me that the engine has been beat  to shit all the cut hoses and i dout that the harnes isnt cut I smell something funny!!!<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>??