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justinbyrant · 10-19-2016, 11:36 AM

is your shift linkage damage?

5280VertDET · 10-19-2016, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by justinbyrant

you made sure the torque converter to flex plate bolts were tight?

Yup. Torqued down to whatever was spec... Cant recall ATM.

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Originally Posted by justinbyrant

is your shift linkage damage?

Shouldn't be, the trans shifts just fine with the gear selector.

justinbyrant · 10-19-2016, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 5280VertDET

Shouldn't be, the trans shifts just fine with the gear selector.

yes but does it actually go into gears? the shift linkage in my lexus was bent and it would move back and forth smoothly but it wouldn't go into park and the shifter would show in between gears on the lever, not sure if it would keep the engine from turning but if you think your in neutral and your actually in drive maybe, idk Im not good with auto transmissions lol, but something has to be binding up

Sileighty_85 · 10-19-2016, 05:42 PM

i doubt anything in the engine is seized from sitting.

My AE86 has an SR that sat for 3 years in my storage locker in the humid ass state of LA, I bought it from a guy that it sat in his storage for a few years as well.
Then another 4 years while I was in japan.

Poured a bit of oil in each cylinder before rotating the crank before I installed it and it had no issues.

I feel like its something with the flex plate, maybe installed backwards, too long of a bolt or bolt head is too long, did you install the flex plate spacer for the crank bolts?

lunchmeat · 10-19-2016, 06:33 PM

Did the same thing with my 67 fairlane when waking it up from a 12 year coma.

Wonder if the trans is stuck in park. Not disengaging the parking maul in the trans.

5280VertDET · 10-19-2016, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sileighty_85

i doubt anything in the engine is seized from sitting.

My AE86 has an SR that sat for 3 years in my storage locker in the humid ass state of LA, I bought it from a guy that it sat in his storage for a few years as well.
Then another 4 years while I was in japan.

Poured a bit of oil in each cylinder before rotating the crank before I installed it and it had no issues.

I feel like its something with the flex plate, maybe installed backwards, too long of a bolt or bolt head is too long, did you install the flex plate spacer for the crank bolts?

Thank you! I am starting to think that the motor is fine, for exactly those reasons. It's simply too fast to seize this much.

Honestly, I don't remember, I stripped the trans off the old motor (original SR auto) and put everything back on the new long block, as far as I know.

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Originally Posted by lunchmeat

Did the same thing with my 67 fairlane when waking it up from a 12 year coma.

Wonder if the trans is stuck in park. Not disengaging the parking maul in the trans.

This is what I think too, but having put the car in neutral and being able to moved the rear wheels I moved on and thought that everything is fine; well fine enough to moved the motor.

Going to try and pull the trans off this weekend, but I am going out of country for a week on Sunday, so I may lose motivation to get to it before then.

Thanks again everyone! Seriously.

Edit: I think you meant "Parking Pawl"?

cotbu · 10-20-2016, 04:00 AM

You haven't unbolted it from the trans yet?
Yeah you can stop saying it's the rings, because you were applying too much force, in the video. Tsunami engines still turn over, anyway. Did you happen to be missing any sockets? No? OK try just loosening all the transmission bolts. Then turn the engine over by hand. Go from there.

lunchmeat · 10-20-2016, 04:17 AM

Yea, pawl is right. Brain fart and its been 10 years since I opened an auto trans.

5280VertDET · 01-01-2017, 11:36 AM

UPDATE!

FINALLY got the trans off and it turn out that it was the issue.

The motor spins VERY smooth with the Flywheel and Torque Convert installed and no trans!

I have a spare that I am rebuilding and upgrading.

Got the transGo HD2 shift kit and new gaskets to go on the low mileage KA trans and hopefully just easily swap the bellhousings.

Then I am having a local shop install it, not taking any more chances and it's a HUGE PITA!!

STR8 H8N · 01-03-2017, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 5280VertDET

UPDATE!

FINALLY got the trans off and it turn out that it was the issue.

The motor spins VERY smooth with the Flywheel and Torque Convert installed and no trans!

I have a spare that I am rebuilding and upgrading.

Got the transGo HD2 shift kit and new gaskets to go on the low mileage KA trans and hopefully just easily swap the bellhousings.

Then I am having a local shop install it, not taking any more chances and it's a HUGE PITA!!

i can help with trans install

5280VertDET · 01-03-2017, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by STR8 H8N

i can help with trans install

You in Colorado?

STR8 H8N · 01-03-2017, 11:14 AM

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You in Colorado?

fly me out

10-19-2016, 05:42 PM	#34
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	i doubt anything in the engine is seized from sitting. My AE86 has an SR that sat for 3 years in my storage locker in the humid ass state of LA, I bought it from a guy that it sat in his storage for a few years as well. Then another 4 years while I was in japan. Poured a bit of oil in each cylinder before rotating the crank before I installed it and it had no issues. I feel like its something with the flex plate, maybe installed backwards, too long of a bolt or bolt head is too long, did you install the flex plate spacer for the crank bolts? __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit Last edited by Sileighty_85; 10-19-2016 at 06:17 PM..

10-20-2016, 04:00 AM	#37
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 47 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	You haven't unbolted it from the trans yet? Yeah you can stop saying it's the rings, because you were applying too much force, in the video. Tsunami engines still turn over, anyway. Did you happen to be missing any sockets? No? OK try just loosening all the transmission bolts. Then turn the engine over by hand. Go from there. __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"

01-01-2017, 11:36 AM	#39
5280VertDET Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Denver Age: 37 Posts: 2,052 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	UPDATE! FINALLY got the trans off and it turn out that it was the issue. The motor spins VERY smooth with the Flywheel and Torque Convert installed and no trans! I have a spare that I am rebuilding and upgrading. Got the transGo HD2 shift kit and new gaskets to go on the low mileage KA trans and hopefully just easily swap the bellhousings. Then I am having a local shop install it, not taking any more chances and it's a HUGE PITA!! __________________ S13 Vert \| SR \| PE1420 \| 5-Speed \| 15x9.5 - 0 \|

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10-19-2016, 11:36 AM	#31
justinbyrant Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: eugene Age: 29 Posts: 229 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	is your shift linkage damage?

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lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 42 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Did the same thing with my 67 fairlane when waking it up from a 12 year coma. Wonder if the trans is stuck in park. Not disengaging the parking maul in the trans.

10-20-2016, 04:17 AM	#38
lunchmeat Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Southaven, ms Age: 42 Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yea, pawl is right. Brain fart and its been 10 years since I opened an auto trans.