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*kingkilburn* · 12-08-2011, 02:06 PM

Why is it still socially acceptable to call the Japanese "Japs"? We don't call Germans krauts or Mexicans spiks. I live in an area with a higher than normal concentration of both Vietnam vets and south east Asians and I never here some old timer utter the word gook.

What gives?

g35gabby · 12-08-2011, 02:27 PM

I hear all of that and a lot more at work, at home, and everywhere else.

cc4usmc · 12-08-2011, 02:35 PM

I'd like to know is why people still feel it's necessary to be offended by words.

lflkajfj12123 · 12-08-2011, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

I'd like to know is why people still feel it's necessary to be offended by words.

zooooooooooooom on da yamaha

cc4usmc · 12-08-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by s0apgun

zooooooooooooom on da yamaha

no hablar what you speakin

lflkajfj12123 · 12-08-2011, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

no hablar what you speakin

Translation: I full heartedly agree with your sentiments mentioned in your former post.

*ManoNegra* · 12-08-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

I'd like to know is why people still feel it's necessary to be offended by words.

exactly, racial slurs used to bother me when I was younger
but stereotypes exist for a reason
I'm very glad I don't hang out with sensitive/pc people

actions matter

many of my friends say the most insensitive shit ever but they're also the
first to come help me when I need a hand and vice versa

theicecreamdan · 12-12-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

I'd like to know is why people still feel it's necessary to be offended by words.

If you know somebody is going to be offended by something, and you have other words (because we're intelligent), why wouldn't you use them?

EIther you're lazy, or trying to insult people, but you want to hide behind the fact that "they're just words."

Walperstyle · 01-12-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

I'd like to know is why people still feel it's necessary to be offended by words.

THANK YOU
so many people complain these days its annoying. Racism is dragging someone behind the back of your pickup, or not offering services to someone based on skin color etc, not name calling.

when I was a kid we use to have a saying about sticks and stones. Apparently everyone pussied out sense then.

BC S14 · 01-29-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cc4usmc

I'd like to know is why people still feel it's necessary to be offended by words.

THIS! Shits really gay.

yetijeff · 12-08-2011, 02:47 PM

Gook,spik, and kraut are KNOWN derogatory terms (to most people) whereas "jap" is just Japanese without the "anese". It's a product of the ever growing laziness of us whitefolk lol.

Sileighty_85 · 12-11-2011, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by yetijeff

Gook,spik, and kraut are KNOWN derogatory terms (to most people) whereas "jap" is just Japanese without the "anese".

I agree.

I just asked my Japanese Wife if the Word "Jap" Offended her. She said it didnt bother her or care. She gets more offended if ppl call her Chinese or any other Asian ethnicity.

illvialuver · 12-11-2011, 05:38 PM

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I agree.

I just asked my Japanese Wife if the Word "Jap" Offended her. She said it didnt bother her or care. She gets more offended if ppl call her Chinese or any other Asian ethnicity.

She gets more affended by being called Chinese, well now we cant say Chinese anymore. Damn.

Sileighty_85 · 12-11-2011, 07:54 PM

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She gets more affended by being called Chinese, well now we cant say Chinese anymore. Damn.

Yeah cuz she's not Chinese..... she's Japanese

Corbic · 12-11-2011, 08:52 PM

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Yeah cuz she's not Chinese..... she's Japanese

Try being Korean, most people either have never heard of it or think your Communist.

Matej · 12-12-2011, 06:37 AM

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Yeah cuz she's not Chinese..... she's Japanese

People always mistake me for Russian or German, even though I am from a different country.
Should I be offended? Or does it not matter because I am white?

HyperTek · 12-08-2011, 03:03 PM

I think in Australia, they use Jap all the time.. like jap spec skyline etc

it is kinda ugly though when i see asian-americans slang the n word all the time to each other

ayuaddict · 12-08-2011, 03:04 PM

Im not sure. To be completely honest it bugs me a little when i hear it, similar probably to how it may bug somebody when called a nigger. The word nigger was originally used in neutral context, and was simply based on the latin word for black, niger. Over the years it adopted a negative or condescending association. Same with Jap, it was just shortened for convenience but it may bother some people. Personally i won't use it unless one day my laziness outweighs my decency or respect for another person.

Corbic · 12-11-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ayuaddict

Im not sure. To be completely honest it bugs me a little when i hear it, similar probably to how it may bug somebody when called a nigger. The word nigger was originally used in neutral context, and was simply based on the latin word for black, niger. Over the years it adopted a negative or condescending association. Same with Jap, it was just shortened for convenience but it may bother some people. Personally i won't use it unless one day my laziness outweighs my decency or respect for another person.

If it's so offense, they why do they use it all the time? Personally, I think its just an excuse.

"OMFG You offended me!!!" And this applies to the vast majority of people whom get offended at the drop of the hat.

*kingkilburn* · 12-11-2011, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

If it's so offense, they why do they use it all the time? Personally, I think its just an excuse.

"OMFG You offended me!!!" And this applies to the vast majority of people whom get offended at the drop of the hat.

That is a part of black culture that outsiders just can't see. After 200 years of being beaten down with a word they took it as their own and by owning it so completely you are scared to say it in the wrong company.

It's theirs and you can't have it.

Corbic · 12-11-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kingkilburn

That is a part of black culture that outsiders just can't see. After 200 years of being beaten down with a word they took it as their own and by owning it so completely you are scared to say it in the wrong company.

It's theirs and you can't have it.

That or they just love to throw temper tantrums and call people "Racists" at the drop of the hat.

As for slavery, really? That ended 150 years ago in America and the whole "civil" rights movement happend almost 50 years ago. Black Americans are not the only "peoples" to have even been slaves - and in fact slavery still exists today.

WanganRunner · 12-08-2011, 03:10 PM

I don't really think it's socially acceptable, whenever I've heard anyone use the term most people recoil the same way they would for any other racial slur.

Tom25666 · 12-08-2011, 03:22 PM

its weird how "jew" almost seems like a dirty word now since it gets used as an insult so often. i do think people are too sensitive though. i don't give a shit if you call me a cracker but i know most people that did would make a big deal if i called them a "whatever the case may be" in return

sw20>>s14 · 12-08-2011, 04:31 PM

being desensitized is totally different from being a narrow minded bigot...

Brian · 12-08-2011, 07:18 PM

Just wondering if any white people actually get offended by any names...

I know I don't. Don't know anybody that does, actually.

illvialuver · 12-11-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

Just wondering if any white people actually get offended by any names...

I know I don't. Don't know anybody that does, actually.

Yeah, doesnt bother me at all. Someone calls me a honkey, cracker or whater, I dont give a shit.

Jap is just short for Japanese, like Rob is short for ROBERT

Corbic · 12-11-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian

Just wondering if any white people actually get offended by any names...

I know I don't. Don't know anybody that does, actually.

We are to busy apologizing too and being offended for all the colored people of the world.

*ManoNegra* · 12-08-2011, 09:42 PM

From experience, you're right Brian

*fliprayzin240sx* · 12-11-2011, 03:43 PM

I think it all depends on its used and context. I lived in japan for 4 yrs and like stated already, most foreigner say jap as a shortened way of saying japanese.

Now, I've also sat thru a briefing of a WWII vet who served in Phillipines. When he said the word Jap, you knew he meant it with disdain and prejudice.

Zero_Cool · 12-12-2011, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

I think it all depends on its used and context. I lived in japan for 4 yrs and like stated already, most foreigner say jap as a shortened way of saying japanese.

Now, I've also sat thru a briefing of a WWII vet who served in Phillipines. When he said the word Jap, you knew he meant it with disdain and prejudice.

that term jap usually is said from folks thru that WW2 era. my grandpa served and was in the pacific fighting the japanese and my dad said he called them Japs with hatred lol my coworker was like heyy:/ when i said japs, she said "u can call us japs on dec. 7th lol

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g35gabby Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2010 Location: lake mary, Fl Age: 34 Posts: 1,954 Trader Rating: (26) Feedback Score: 26 reviews	I hear all of that and a lot more at work, at home, and everywhere else. __________________

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HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I think in Australia, they use Jap all the time.. like jap spec skyline etc it is kinda ugly though when i see asian-americans slang the n word all the time to each other __________________ Keep it Classy

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WanganRunner Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Posts: 1,655 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I don't really think it's socially acceptable, whenever I've heard anyone use the term most people recoil the same way they would for any other racial slur. __________________ SELL ME CLEAR ZENKI CORNERS: http://zilvia.net/f/wanted-buy/40034...rs-junyan.html

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yetijeff Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Corona Ca Age: 31 Posts: 765 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Gook,spik, and kraut are KNOWN derogatory terms (to most people) whereas "jap" is just Japanese without the "anese". It's a product of the ever growing laziness of us whitefolk lol.

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ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 32 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Im not sure. To be completely honest it bugs me a little when i hear it, similar probably to how it may bug somebody when called a nigger. The word nigger was originally used in neutral context, and was simply based on the latin word for black, niger. Over the years it adopted a negative or condescending association. Same with Jap, it was just shortened for convenience but it may bother some people. Personally i won't use it unless one day my laziness outweighs my decency or respect for another person.

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Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Just wondering if any white people actually get offended by any names... I know I don't. Don't know anybody that does, actually. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

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ManoNegra Guild of Skullduggerous Intent Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Socal Posts: 7,841 Trader Rating: (48) Feedback Score: 48 reviews	From experience, you're right Brian

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fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I think it all depends on its used and context. I lived in japan for 4 yrs and like stated already, most foreigner say jap as a shortened way of saying japanese. Now, I've also sat thru a briefing of a WWII vet who served in Phillipines. When he said the word Jap, you knew he meant it with disdain and prejudice. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

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