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415Racewurkz · 03-14-2012, 02:40 PM

Nissan S13 Crossbar w/ Top Strut, Bottom Strut & Butterfly bars.

PLM Crossbars utilize both c-pillar and strut points while hard cornering to reduce body flex, while adding a stylish look to your vehicle. The crossbar focuses four critical points of the chassis to one stress point. This helps eliminate body flex and helps improve balance when cornering.
***NOTE: REQUIRES DISCONNECTION OF REAR SEAT BELTS***

Application for:

S13 (89' - 94') HB ONLY

Features:

Brand New In Box
Made of 304 Brushed Stainless steel(S/S)
Hand TIG Welded
CNC-ed machined manifold brackets
One year warranty
18G on the 304 S/S. Measured at .049" to .050"

PRICE: $300
FREE SHIPPING ON ALL ORDERS WITHIN THE 48 STATES!

International inquires please PM/Email for ship rates.

Can be purchased from our Online shop HERE

For any questions, Please feel free to PM or Email me.

I ship same day order is made excluding weekends and anytime after 4pm PST. We're located in CA & pickup is also available.

chiboy002 · 03-14-2012, 03:16 PM

this is not ok

415Racewurkz · 03-14-2012, 03:46 PM

I'm not sure I quite understand. What is not ok?

landins13 · 03-14-2012, 03:53 PM

im sure it has something to do with it being a miracle x bar copy

*TheRealSy90* · 03-14-2012, 04:08 PM

Looks different than a miracle x to me.

415Racewurkz · 03-14-2012, 04:16 PM

They are similar but not the same. Miracle has the Reinforced X whereas these do not. Also their links are different.

It's just reinforcement bars. I mean how many other ways can you make them? Don't see how making an X bar is any more different then someone making a strut bar.

s13coupez · 03-14-2012, 04:45 PM

is this only for the hb? or would it fit the coupe 2?

415Racewurkz · 03-14-2012, 04:46 PM

This is only for the HB.

Thanks I forgot to add that part to the post.

stilmissmysti · 03-14-2012, 04:55 PM

You guys in south city are you a shop or just a distributer

415Racewurkz · 03-14-2012, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stilmissmysti

You guys in south city are you a shop or just a distributer

Both. I'm a distributor but have a warehouse/showroom

jk26 · 03-14-2012, 06:34 PM

I have an s14 but that looks nice, and looks a lot different then the Miracle bar.

usdm180sx · 03-14-2012, 06:46 PM

Difference between this and godspeed?

foxystyle · 03-14-2012, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usdm180sx

Difference between this and godspeed?

Don't mean to stir trouble, but I am also wondering about this.

Hywarp161 · 03-14-2012, 09:42 PM

can we get some close up shots?

sideview_180sx · 03-14-2012, 10:23 PM

will this fit the changes b/w hatches 89-90 91-94. since there are different mounting points for belts in the rear.

rb25crazy · 03-14-2012, 10:26 PM

who cares, buy whichever you like more, they look the same probably perform the same.

415Racewurkz · 03-14-2012, 11:08 PM

I don't see many differences from just looking at the pictures of the Godspeed bars. I'd have to have a look at one in person for me to see the differences.

I'll get some good shots tomorrow along with close ups of the display unit I have.

@Sideview_180sx - The xbar doesn't work with the rear belts. Requires you to take them off. It does let you keep the rear seats though.

*hOngsterr* · 03-15-2012, 01:26 AM

that means you need the seatbelt brackets that only come in 91-93 HB to mount the x bars

williams7 · 03-15-2012, 02:20 AM

I have an s14 but that looks nice, and looks a lot different then the Miracle bar.

415Racewurkz · 03-15-2012, 03:19 PM

Yes you would need the brackets from the 91+ in order for it to mount to the 89' - 90' chassis.

I'm in the middle of trying to source it directly from Nissan and just offering it at no additional cost (if I can get a good rate). If anyone knows the part # for the Nissan 91-94 rear seat belt bracket it would help me tremendously. Rep from Nissan says there are 2 different part #'s for 2 types of brackets on the 91 - 94 chassis and he is having trouble with my explanation of what I'm trying to install lol. I may just make a stop to their parts department with the X-Bar and show him what I mean.

In the mean time here are some pics off my display unit.

If anyone knows the part # for the Nissan rear seat belt bracket it would help me tremendously.

nate1 · 03-15-2012, 04:47 PM

will this clear the tein edfc?

415Racewurkz · 03-15-2012, 04:59 PM

Yes it will clear the edfc.

chiboy002 · 03-15-2012, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 415Racewurkz

They are similar but not the same. Miracle has the Reinforced X whereas these do not. Also their links are different.

It's just reinforcement bars. I mean how many other ways can you make them? Don't see how making an X bar is any more different then someone making a strut bar.

of course their links are different, i doubt anyone would go to the extent of buying the same supplies as another company that they are trying to rip off of.

Next MXB

Yours

Looks like the same exact thing to me.

Of course theres only so many ways you can make braces, but its pretty easy to tell which ones are best from which ones arent. There are differences in design, and there are those that have been around for longer. Someone had to do the r&d.

boyou2 · 03-16-2012, 05:48 AM

welds of X-Bar are different, and perhaps material used for it.

415Racewurkz · 03-16-2012, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiboy002

Of course theres only so many ways you can make braces, but its pretty easy to tell which ones are best from which ones arent. There are differences in design, and there are those that have been around for longer. Someone had to do the r&d.

your absolutely correct.

nate1 · 03-16-2012, 01:27 PM

do a group buy like god speed did on there cross braces so people can test out the quality of it

415Racewurkz · 03-16-2012, 01:40 PM

I can set one up sure. I'd have to work out details first of course but I will update this thread soon as I decide.

3411 · 03-16-2012, 06:33 PM

intrested in a GB

D1S13 · 03-16-2012, 10:57 PM

i think its awesome

HAWAII · 03-17-2012, 02:03 PM

Same item as GS. Works great

03-14-2012, 02:40 PM	#1
415Racewurkz Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 77 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Nissan S13 Reinforcement CrossBars (X-BAR) Nissan S13 Crossbar w/ Top Strut, Bottom Strut & Butterfly bars. PLM Crossbars utilize both c-pillar and strut points while hard cornering to reduce body flex, while adding a stylish look to your vehicle. The crossbar focuses four critical points of the chassis to one stress point. This helps eliminate body flex and helps improve balance when cornering. *NOTE: REQUIRES DISCONNECTION OF REAR SEAT BELTS* Application for: S13 (89' - 94') HB ONLY Features: Brand New In Box Made of 304 Brushed Stainless steel(S/S) Hand TIG Welded CNC-ed machined manifold brackets One year warranty 18G on the 304 S/S. Measured at .049" to .050" PRICE: $300 FREE SHIPPING ON ALL ORDERS WITHIN THE 48 STATES! International inquires please PM/Email for ship rates. Can be purchased from our Online shop HERE For any questions, Please feel free to PM or Email me. I ship same day order is made excluding weekends and anytime after 4pm PST. We're located in CA & pickup is also available. __________________ Check out our Blog Check out our Online Shop Last edited by 415Racewurkz; 03-14-2012 at 04:46 PM..

03-14-2012, 03:16 PM	#2
chiboy002 Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: ◙ Posts: 4,416 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	this is not ok __________________ street dancer.

03-14-2012, 03:46 PM	#3
415Racewurkz Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 77 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I'm not sure I quite understand. What is not ok? __________________ Check out our Blog Check out our Online Shop

03-14-2012, 03:53 PM	#4
landins13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Baltimore Posts: 986 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	im sure it has something to do with it being a miracle x bar copy __________________ NO HANDS IN PANTS!!

03-14-2012, 04:16 PM	#6
415Racewurkz Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 77 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	They are similar but not the same. Miracle has the Reinforced X whereas these do not. Also their links are different. It's just reinforcement bars. I mean how many other ways can you make them? Don't see how making an X bar is any more different then someone making a strut bar. __________________ Check out our Blog Check out our Online Shop

03-14-2012, 04:45 PM	#7
s13coupez Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: north hollywood ca Age: 33 Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	is this only for the hb? or would it fit the coupe 2?

03-14-2012, 04:46 PM	#8
415Racewurkz Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 77 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	This is only for the HB. Thanks I forgot to add that part to the post. __________________ Check out our Blog Check out our Online Shop

03-14-2012, 04:55 PM	#9
stilmissmysti Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 206 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	You guys in south city are you a shop or just a distributer

03-14-2012, 06:34 PM	#11
jk26 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,231 Trader Rating: (31) Feedback Score: 31 reviews	I have an s14 but that looks nice, and looks a lot different then the Miracle bar.

03-14-2012, 06:46 PM	#12
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Difference between this and godspeed? __________________ -Norm!

03-14-2012, 09:42 PM	#14
Hywarp161 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island NY Age: 46 Posts: 105 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	can we get some close up shots? __________________

03-14-2012, 10:23 PM	#15
sideview_180sx Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: somewhere north of mexico Posts: 1,538 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	will this fit the changes b/w hatches 89-90 91-94. since there are different mounting points for belts in the rear. __________________ feel the rythym. feel the ride. get on up. it's bobsled time. COOL RUNNINGS!!! formerly sideviewcivic Save a Horse. Drift This Cowboy. AirBag Club Member #0014

03-14-2012, 10:26 PM	#16
rb25crazy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: cali Age: 35 Posts: 1,024 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	who cares, buy whichever you like more, they look the same probably perform the same.

03-14-2012, 11:08 PM	#17
415Racewurkz Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 77 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I don't see many differences from just looking at the pictures of the Godspeed bars. I'd have to have a look at one in person for me to see the differences. I'll get some good shots tomorrow along with close ups of the display unit I have. @Sideview_180sx - The xbar doesn't work with the rear belts. Requires you to take them off. It does let you keep the rear seats though. __________________ Check out our Blog Check out our Online Shop

03-15-2012, 02:20 AM	#19
williams7 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Augusta Age: 39 Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have an s14 but that looks nice, and looks a lot different then the Miracle bar.

03-15-2012, 03:19 PM	#20
415Racewurkz Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 77 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Yes you would need the brackets from the 91+ in order for it to mount to the 89' - 90' chassis. I'm in the middle of trying to source it directly from Nissan and just offering it at no additional cost (if I can get a good rate). If anyone knows the part # for the Nissan 91-94 rear seat belt bracket it would help me tremendously. Rep from Nissan says there are 2 different part #'s for 2 types of brackets on the 91 - 94 chassis and he is having trouble with my explanation of what I'm trying to install lol. I may just make a stop to their parts department with the X-Bar and show him what I mean. In the mean time here are some pics off my display unit. If anyone knows the part # for the Nissan rear seat belt bracket it would help me tremendously. __________________ Check out our Blog Check out our Online Shop

03-15-2012, 04:47 PM	#21
nate1 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: harrisburg/philly Age: 35 Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	will this clear the tein edfc?

03-15-2012, 04:59 PM	#22
415Racewurkz Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 77 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Yes it will clear the edfc. __________________ Check out our Blog Check out our Online Shop

03-16-2012, 05:48 AM	#24
boyou2 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: france Posts: 413 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	welds of X-Bar are different, and perhaps material used for it.

03-16-2012, 01:27 PM	#26
nate1 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: harrisburg/philly Age: 35 Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	do a group buy like god speed did on there cross braces so people can test out the quality of it

03-16-2012, 01:40 PM	#27
415Racewurkz Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bay Area Posts: 77 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	I can set one up sure. I'd have to work out details first of course but I will update this thread soon as I decide. __________________ Check out our Blog Check out our Online Shop

03-16-2012, 06:33 PM	#28
3411 Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NC Posts: 232 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	intrested in a GB

03-16-2012, 10:57 PM	#29
D1S13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: phx Posts: 830 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	i think its awesome __________________ www.teamtopflight.blogspot.com

03-17-2012, 02:03 PM	#30
HAWAII Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Burbank,Ca Age: 45 Posts: 716 Trader Rating: (24) Feedback Score: 24 reviews	Same item as GS. Works great

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