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Old 07-15-2012, 08:05 PM   #31
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944 air routing, the turbo is hidden by the black air box but you get the idea.

Yes. Porsche does not believe in LSD's. With so much weight hanging out over the rear, they have little need for one but if you want to burn out and drift and hoonigan your toy car around, you'll need one. They make due with an open diff and get a lot done with it but in the end. Everyone is always looking for LSDs. It always runs like $1500-$2000 for one. It would be one thing if the porsche crap got cheaper as the cars became worthless but it doesn't. Brakes, timing belt, water pumps, are all 3x what they should be. As was said before. The cheapest thing about a 944 is buying it.
LSD thing is from people loving to lift oversteer with the 911.

The TQ tube is the annoying part. Least Audi parts fit readily.
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lol those mini trucks with sub walls make me want to bump some old Too $hort. Truth is though, there is no new trend as far as imports go. New trend now a day's is new car models. Drifting was new to USA yet still old. Some of us knew about it and liked 240's at a time when the closest you got to an sr20 was through a photo. I guarantee a lot of people either had a honda, eclipse or talon then turned into nissan heads once the drift scene hit. Car scene has kind of been on a shallow lately if you ask me. But I got a feeling with the new ft 86 and genesis coupe and what not the rwd compacts are going to make a come back shortly. I can foresee a silvia revival car IF they play it right. S13 coupe was big deal in japan, so a revival car would not only be big in japan. It would probably do OK everywhere else to, with what fan base the 240/200 has grown to be. Not to mention the aussie/kiwi's. I would just save your money for something new to hit and be on top of the game, honestly. Either that or old school japan car(classics are always cool even USDM classics). Really the only two options I can see blowing money on at this point in import scene. That or just import a non US model car. Just my opinion.
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yea, most likely. But, I don't think the car looks all that amazing.
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Z31 suspension are bitch to modify.
Exactly why I'm thinking the Genesis coupe might eventually be lumped in with forgettable cars like the Z31: They sound good on paper, but real world specifics may make them difficult to modify to your desire.

The Z31 suspension issue is probably to only thing that keeps it from being a better drift option than an S-chassis IMO.

With the Genesis coupe (at least with the facelight version), you have to replace the entire exhaust manifold to upgrade the turbo. Might as well be a damn N/A to turbo project for the money and work thats gonna entail. Really annoying decision, Hyundai.
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With the Genesis coupe (at least with the facelight version), you have to replace the entire exhaust manifold to upgrade the turbo. Might as well be a damn N/A to turbo project for the money and work thats gonna entail. Really annoying decision, Hyundai.
You have to do that with the SR too. Engine side bolts are a bitch to get to.
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A prius has never been done before....throw an LS in it hahah.
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prius modding is big in japan. just like everything else
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I think old school cars are going to be the next big thing. Mixing old usdm muscle with a bit of jdm flavor and vice versa.
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Exactly what I was thinking ^. I may stick to usdm for cheaper and easier to find parts.
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old school cars arent going to be "THE NEXT BIG THING" because they were never NOT being modified. theyve always been around, and have always been 'big.' its just a different 'scene' than 'ours' so maybe we/you arent as familiar with it.
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Mixing old usdm muscle with a bit of jdm flavor and vice versa.

I'm aware that they've always been "big" and "around".

Read what i said.
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i have had a surge of customers coming to me with older toyotas/nissans asking me to restore or resto-mod them. last week my shop had a celica-supra, a starlet, a 74 hilux and a 80something celica in it being worked on or waiting to be. classic japanese car interest is definitely on the rise.
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Mixing old usdm muscle with a bit of jdm flavor and vice versa.

I'm aware that they've always been "big" and "around".

Read what i said.
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I think old school cars are going to be the next big thing.
i was responding to the first sentence, not the second.

read what you said.
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You're an idiot. They both go together, so there's no need to reply to the first one. If you know how to read and comprehend, you'd know what i was talking about. But seems like you need more elaboration.

Touge and hyper understood what i said but i guess i should've specified myself.

Hyper's words.

"classic japanese car interest is definitely on the rise".

Anyways.
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944's hard to modify?
cant drift one?
lsd...?
apparently some people that spoke on this have not really delved into it?
swap in a 350,ls1, or fuck even an sr20/ka24...its all been done.
that solves half of your parts issues.
change the drivetrain out to Audi (i think someone said that)
Saab, or Volvo (i think it was) works too.
thats the other half of your issues solved.
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i dont know about you guys, but im kind of sold on the modification potential of the older VW bugs. there's a youtube video of one with a hayabusa engine in it that hauls. hell, i have plans for a squareback! what ever your choice, please remember that anything worth doing, is worth doing right.
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You're an idiot. They both go together, so there's no need to reply to the first one. If you know how to read and comprehend, you'd know what i was talking about. But seems like you need more elaboration.

Touge and hyper understood what i said but i guess i should've specified myself.

Hyper's words.

"classic japanese car interest is definitely on the rise".

Anyways.
they are 2 completely different sentences. maybe you should learn how to construct a complete/all inclusive sentence or statement?

anyways, what was the blend you had in mind anyways. why dont you elaborate on that and we'll most past the previous part.
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You have to do that with the SR too. Engine side bolts are a bitch to get to.
Wait. What? Are you saying you have to replace the factory manifold if you wanna run something like a GT2871r or GT28rs on the SR20?

Hyundai's factory turbo and manifold are 1 piece in the newer car. Can't upgrade one without upgrading the other. But you can still bolt on a turbo upgrade on the earlier version's factory manifold.
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Wait. What? Are you saying you have to replace the factory manifold if you wanna run something like a GT2871r or GT28rs on the SR20?

Hyundai's factory turbo and manifold are 1 piece in the newer car. Can't upgrade one without upgrading the other. But you can still bolt on a turbo upgrade on the earlier version's factory manifold.
Sorry I meant removing.

The manifold is the same thing on the newer evo's. They make turbos that have a turbine side that bolts into the stock manifold now.
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I'm sorry, but help me to understand this. I know the Evo X and the Genesis coupe use very similar engines. Are you saying the Evo X also has an integrated exhaust manifold + turbo setup that connects the compressor side, but the turbine side is upgradeable without replacing the whole manifold?!?

If so... Thank God. There may be hope for the Genesis coupe yet.

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they are 2 completely different sentences. maybe you should learn how to construct a complete/all inclusive sentence or statement?

anyways, what was the blend you had in mind anyways. why dont you elaborate on that and we'll most past the previous part.
Nope, everyone understood what i said besides your stupid ass. I guess your special ed.

S'okay bud.

Now stfu yeah?

I don't want to school and feed the troll anymore. Let's carry on with the topic.

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For some reason I like that prius with the works. Still don't think i would choose to drive one especially with the mini cooper on the field.
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Nope, everyone understood what i said besides your stupid ass. I guess your special ed.

S'okay bud.

Now stfu yeah?

I don't want to school and feed the troll anymore. Let's carry on with the topic.
lol @ 'school' the troll. im sorry bro but if YOU'RE going to throw "idiot, stupid ass, & special ed" around, at least, AT LEAST make sure your sentences are proper and that your spelling is correct.

here, this might help you The Complete Sentence

to address your second sentence from your op: the japanese have been emulating the americans and vice versa ever since cars have been around. come over to ratsun and see for yourself.

to summarize, i understood you the whole time, but i didnt want to offend you by telling you that you were wrong on both accounts and i wanted to point out how your initial, fragmented sentence was incorrect.

and damn homie its just the internetz, no need to get so defensive
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Z31's get less credit than they deserve. It has both hindered and aided the small following it has. On one hand, they aren't tainted with fanboy taxes like S-chassis and AE86's. On the other hand, we have very little aftermarket support, and the little that we do have ask for rediculous prices. I am not going to pay $1300 on Stance coilovers for my car just because they are the only company that provides them for our Z's. The price of the car alone is half that, on average. But we also are left with tapping into our own ingenuity and finding ways around our problem. Like modifying s13 coilovers for our cars, S30 fender flares for our Z, SC300 rear shocks for our rears, s13 short shifters, etc etc.
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^^^Wait... WTF? Seriously? Are you telling me Stance made a bolt on coilover option for the Z31 and that community thinks its too expensive?!? $1300 isn't all that bad of a price for coilovers. No wonder that community gets no support.

Isn't this the same Z31 posted above?
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I think thats the best built Z31 I've seen and even he said in the comments that the Stance coilover option is the best setup available and the only reason he didn't use it is because it didn't exist when he built his car.
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