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DenkiMan! · 09-03-2010, 09:31 AM

this thread was actually rly helpful lol...ive been having the same problem with my 95 s14. that annoying kickback. the only suspension upgrades i have are kyb adjustable struts...came with car. i knew i needed a lsd tho, its good to understand why

but im looking to get a tomei 2 way soon!

kuelee · 09-03-2010, 10:44 AM

This is correct. Ive tryed it before without lsd, and it snaps u back or like what your saying, oversteering. If u get a j30. i can almost guarantee it wont do that anymore.

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Originally Posted by 5pecialist

Unless I read your post wrong, it sounds like you need an LSD. Otherwise that snap back will always occur. Sure letting off the gas as suggested above will help somewhat, but you are really limiting yourself.

*Jonnie Fraz* · 09-04-2010, 09:55 PM

Like tons of others have told you it is the diff. Welded to start, have someone who knows what they are doing weld your diff please! When you can afford it look at getting a two way. You can learn allot with just a welded dif. Look at going to a local sponsored track/ skid pad event. You will learn more that day than you will all year in a parking lot. Use your money to upgrade suspension buy track time and buy tires. Always suspension before power!
Now for my little service announcement...Several guys with way more experience than you have tried to help, and you have spit in their face. I have run across a couple of kids like you...one has destroyed seven perfectly good 240's because he will not listen. He has been very lucky that he has not hurt or killed anyone. Do you see where I am going?
Good luck with your quest, and I hope to see you at the track someday.

jdhariwal · 09-21-2010, 11:18 AM

LOL, this thread took a turn for the worse pretty quick.

GoNissanGo · 09-23-2010, 02:11 PM

Damn guys he's a noob and just got hurt feelings. We dont have to be that mean ;-) That said... shut up and take their advice... ie listen to that guy thats an instructor! Can you really argue with someone thats knows that much...
maybe your name should be "little curb hopper" Damn I got mean too. Pherhaps this guy understands now.. Dont screw with people trying to help...

Take it as a lesson don't get jaded just be more open to advice.

javedjee77 · 09-23-2010, 06:55 PM

On some of the forums I've been on I've seen this or something similar, it turns into a mess and becomes a vendor war that always ends up ugly.

Peter89#2 · 09-24-2010, 11:07 AM

weld it. should cost less then $50.

dsastr_clan · 09-24-2010, 11:28 AM

try a different setting on ur coilovers, i had megan tracks too not bad for a beginner i will suggest you to go full hard on the rear and full soft on the fronts and change the front camber to negative.

fckillerbee · 09-24-2010, 03:21 PM

^^^clearly cause both of your cars are exactly the same.

dsastr_clan · 09-24-2010, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

^^^clearly cause both of your cars are exactly the same.

my

he can experiment with that see if it works.

fckillerbee · 09-24-2010, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsastr_clan

my

he can experiment with that see if it works.

i understand your input...but from my experience....

the driver, the car, and the parts, make every scenario different. everyone in here can make recommendations....he is the only one that will know what works....

the best bet....is taking it to an event where a instructor can properly evaluate what you have, and what you need.

any other info isn't necessary until he does so...and any other questions are unecessary until so. ;D

angelus erratus · 09-27-2010, 10:52 AM

join roadster drift, they have a porn thread, i can call my friends Caucasian, Mongoloids, Negroids and not get banned, and the assholes are much better at being assholes.

angelus erratus · 09-27-2010, 10:59 AM

if you want gangster ass over steer, get rid of your front sway bar, get matched spring rates...

fckillerbee · 09-28-2010, 02:51 PM

removing the front sway bar and getting the same set of springs all the way around would be as if keeping the car the same...sway bar prevents roll, and matching springs prevent roll, so you are throwing one away to pick up the other...any video of this tested out? i'd like to see why you recommended this.

angelus erratus · 09-28-2010, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

removing the front sway bar and getting the same set of springs all the way around would be as if keeping the car the same...sway bar prevents roll, and matching springs prevent roll, so you are throwing one away to pick up the other...any video of this tested out? i'd like to see why you recommended this.

what would happen if an inexperienced driver got matched spring rates, and a thick rear sway bar? i am just curious, cuz i don't know shit home boiii, i was raised by a pack a wolves, and all i know how to do is skeet skeet.

fckillerbee · 09-29-2010, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angelus erratus

what would happen if an inexperienced driver got matched spring rates, and a thick rear sway bar? i am just curious, cuz i don't know shit home boiii, i was raised by a pack a wolves, and all i know how to do is skeet skeet.

rear sway bars induce oversteer....that's what would happen. lmao....haha skeeter

angelus erratus · 09-29-2010, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fckillerbee

rear sway bars induce oversteer....that's what would happen. lmao....haha skeeter

hahaha, wtf, making me feel old because i actually remember watching this as a kid

.

09-04-2010, 09:55 PM	#33
Jonnie Fraz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cali Age: 53 Posts: 1,371 Trader Rating: (29) Rides Gallery: Jonnie Fraz Feedback Score: 29 reviews	Like tons of others have told you it is the diff. Welded to start, have someone who knows what they are doing weld your diff please! When you can afford it look at getting a two way. You can learn allot with just a welded dif. Look at going to a local sponsored track/ skid pad event. You will learn more that day than you will all year in a parking lot. Use your money to upgrade suspension buy track time and buy tires. Always suspension before power! Now for my little service announcement...Several guys with way more experience than you have tried to help, and you have spit in their face. I have run across a couple of kids like you...one has destroyed seven perfectly good 240's because he will not listen. He has been very lucky that he has not hurt or killed anyone. Do you see where I am going? Good luck with your quest, and I hope to see you at the track someday. __________________ Stealth-Custom-Fab.com

09-27-2010, 10:52 AM	#42
angelus erratus Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CA Age: 32 Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	join roadster drift, they have a porn thread, i can call my friends Caucasian, Mongoloids, Negroids and not get banned, and the assholes are much better at being assholes. __________________ KITTY GATO POWA!!!

09-27-2010, 10:59 AM	#43
angelus erratus Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: CA Age: 32 Posts: 85 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you want gangster ass over steer, get rid of your front sway bar, get matched spring rates... __________________ KITTY GATO POWA!!!

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09-21-2010, 11:18 AM	#34
jdhariwal Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 589 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	LOL, this thread took a turn for the worse pretty quick.

09-23-2010, 02:11 PM	#35
GoNissanGo Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Charleston South Carolina Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Damn guys he's a noob and just got hurt feelings. We dont have to be that mean ;-) That said... shut up and take their advice... ie listen to that guy thats an instructor! Can you really argue with someone thats knows that much... maybe your name should be "little curb hopper" Damn I got mean too. Pherhaps this guy understands now.. Dont screw with people trying to help... Take it as a lesson don't get jaded just be more open to advice.

09-23-2010, 06:55 PM	#36
javedjee77 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: pakistan Age: 41 Posts: 1 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	On some of the forums I've been on I've seen this or something similar, it turns into a mess and becomes a vendor war that always ends up ugly.

09-24-2010, 11:07 AM	#37
Peter89#2 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 32 Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	weld it. should cost less then $50.

09-24-2010, 11:28 AM	#38
dsastr_clan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: utah Posts: 405 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	try a different setting on ur coilovers, i had megan tracks too not bad for a beginner i will suggest you to go full hard on the rear and full soft on the fronts and change the front camber to negative.

09-24-2010, 03:21 PM	#39
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 36 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	^^^clearly cause both of your cars are exactly the same.

09-28-2010, 02:51 PM	#44
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 36 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	removing the front sway bar and getting the same set of springs all the way around would be as if keeping the car the same...sway bar prevents roll, and matching springs prevent roll, so you are throwing one away to pick up the other...any video of this tested out? i'd like to see why you recommended this.