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EchoOfSilence · 05-30-2005, 02:14 AM

My car is old

, as are my keys. the edges are beginning to grind down, and it makes me stand in front of my door for a good 30 seconds to a minute trying to get it to unlock. (ignition turns prefectly though)

Basically, the question is, what can I do to get new keys? I heard that since my S13 ('89) is too old, Nissan can't make me a new one. So wtf am I to do?

reefer1114 · 05-30-2005, 02:17 AM

keyless entry or make copies of keys. or try to go to the dealership and ask if you can get a copy of your keys. i only have one copy also and its not even an original. im gonna have to see at the dealership also.

TheSnail · 05-30-2005, 02:19 AM

Go to the nissan dealership, there is a code they will get from you along with some sort of proof of ownership (so your not trying to steal someones car.) It should take them 5-10min to make it and cost you 10-20$ for a nice freash nissan key.

ALTRNTV · 05-30-2005, 02:25 AM

I had the same problem with my s14. I went into the Nissan Dealer and they couldn't pull any codes from my VIN. I had a 96. Just get a keyless entry system or get the ignition cylinder and door cylinders off another 240 and get the keys too.

TheSnail · 05-30-2005, 02:30 AM

First see with the dealership, They should be able to give you a new key. 5 months ago, my GF came to visit from NC and locked her keys in her saturn. We went to the dealership and they made a new key with the vin# all for $8. took 10min. I was impressed.

chlatboy · 05-30-2005, 02:38 AM

yeah, try to make a copy of it first at walmart and see if the new one works. It should. Costs about a buck.

ALTRNTV · 05-30-2005, 02:41 AM

Well, if the key to be copied is already worn out, going to Wal-mart and making an exact copy of the key isn't going to help. Try it anyways.

OMGWTFBBQ · 05-30-2005, 02:44 AM

^^ he's right, if the key is worn down that much, that could just give you another key that does the same thing. I'd try the dealer, I've only heard good things about them handling similar situations

RightWheelDrive · 05-30-2005, 02:52 AM

Ever try spraying some WD-40 into the key hole? If your key works fine in the ignition, I don't see why it shouldn't in your door lock.

kandyflip445 · 05-30-2005, 02:56 AM

You should use graphite lube for locks. They sell it near the keys at wal-mart.

TheSnail · 05-30-2005, 03:08 AM

Is that copper gritty looking? I bought a new gun, after shooting it, I cleaned it and wiped that stuff off. After reading the manuel, it said to avoid wiping that stuff off since its there for long time lubercation. Fuck ! !

projectRDM · 05-30-2005, 04:23 AM

Dealers only keep key codes for the past 10 years, they won't have anything on a car that old.

EchoOfSilence · 05-30-2005, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R240NA

Dealers only keep key codes for the past 10 years, they won't have anything on a car that old.

Yeah, that's what I heard.

Damn I think I'm fucked. I hope I don't have to buy all new locks and ignition w/ keys just for this

SilviaDriver · 05-30-2005, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R240NA

Dealers only keep key codes for the past 10 years, they won't have anything on a car that old.

if thats the case, ima go n get a new key for backup haha

black s13 · 05-30-2005, 09:09 AM

the dealership hre made me a new key, cost me like $12. my cars a 90, they didnt seem to have any problem with it.

cheez80 · 05-30-2005, 09:34 AM

performance nissan, duarte, ca, couldn't do shit for me. i just had it copied at the local asian locksmith. cost me $2.50

ghostchild316 · 05-30-2005, 02:13 PM

My key was starting to get worn too.Got a copy made at Wal-Mart havent had a problem with it.

EchoOfSilence · 05-30-2005, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostchild316

My key was starting to get worn too.Got a copy made at Wal-Mart havent had a problem with it.

I also had a copy made, but it works the same as the 'original' (which is also a copy that the car came with. the original one wasn't supplied)

chlatboy · 05-30-2005, 03:09 PM

Dont DIS on Walmart. And the keys even have the black handle!!!!

kandyflip445 · 05-30-2005, 03:32 PM

I do the wal-mart thing but when it's cold I bend the keys. :/

ranisron · 05-30-2005, 03:48 PM

at least you have a door lock... when I bought my car, the key cylinder is filled with a broken key inside (vandalised)... so I installed a keyless entry - well, if my battery ran out of juice I'm fucked.

MakotoS13 · 05-30-2005, 03:55 PM

why don't you guys just have spare keys? if you have an original good copy and keep it (not using it) you shouldn't have any problems with wear on the keys.

EchoOfSilence · 05-30-2005, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MakotoS13

why don't you guys just have spare keys? if you have an original good copy and keep it (not using it) you shouldn't have any problems with wear on the keys.

because the key that came with the car when i bought it was a copy itself that was already going out. Hence my situation

kandyflip445 · 05-30-2005, 03:58 PM

I keep a good copy to copy from. But they bend.

millelu · 05-30-2005, 04:15 PM

If you go to Walmart to get copies made, do you have to use the keys they have hanging there or could I take in something like this off of eBay and they would use that?

Maybe a dumb ? but I've never made a copy of keys before.

OMGWTFBBQ · 05-30-2005, 04:25 PM

shouldn't matter what key you bring to them

kandyflip445 · 05-30-2005, 11:46 PM

You can bring in keys to have copied. But that key is ugly. To each his own I suppose.

Snail- The graphite lube looks like metal flake. It's a silver color and just puffs out of the tube. I would go to a Glock dealer and see if you can't get some of what you wiped off.

NismoDan · 05-31-2005, 06:28 PM

My trunk lock started acting up on me a while ago (but the door and ignition worked fine).
I thought it was my key, but then I shot some WD40 into the cylinder and now it works perfectly.
Try it.

Also, there should be a code somewhere on a sticker (I think its the glove box, may be on the door jam) that you can take to a locksmith and they should be able to make a new key from that code with the right dimensions (not worn like a pure copy would be).

EchoOfSilence · 05-31-2005, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NismoDan

My trunk lock started acting up on me a while ago (but the door and ignition worked fine).
I thought it was my key, but then I shot some WD40 into the cylinder and now it works perfectly.
Try it.

Also, there should be a code somewhere on a sticker (I think its the glove box, may be on the door jam) that you can take to a locksmith and they should be able to make a new key from that code with the right dimensions (not worn like a pure copy would be).

I'll be sure to try the WD40.

But I was not aware of a key-code on the car that determines the car's key...
wouldn't that be a little bit of a security risk to have it there? anyone have any comment on this? I'll check it out the minute I get back home

trsilvias13 · 05-31-2005, 08:01 PM

go to a lock smith they can make a key from nothing. but it cost like 50bucks, but it will cost like 50bucks or so, but they fit perfect to match your existing cyclinder. and here a hint, after u get taht made, make a copy

05-30-2005, 02:14 AM	#1
EchoOfSilence Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Los Angeles/Berkeley, CA Posts: 2,238 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	What to do if keys are starting to grind out? My car is old , as are my keys. the edges are beginning to grind down, and it makes me stand in front of my door for a good 30 seconds to a minute trying to get it to unlock. (ignition turns prefectly though) Basically, the question is, what can I do to get new keys? I heard that since my S13 ('89) is too old, Nissan can't make me a new one. So wtf am I to do? __________________ Petition Nissan to Make the IDx on http://IDxClub.co !

05-30-2005, 02:38 AM	#6
chlatboy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,252 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah, try to make a copy of it first at walmart and see if the new one works. It should. Costs about a buck. __________________ If you dont know SEARCH!!!

05-30-2005, 02:56 AM	#10
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 36 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	You should use graphite lube for locks. They sell it near the keys at wal-mart. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

05-30-2005, 04:23 AM	#12
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 47 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Dealers only keep key codes for the past 10 years, they won't have anything on a car that old. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

05-30-2005, 03:09 PM	#19
chlatboy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 1,252 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dont DIS on Walmart. And the keys even have the black handle!!!! __________________ If you dont know SEARCH!!!

05-30-2005, 02:17 AM	#2
reefer1114 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: in your womans pants Posts: 638 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	keyless entry or make copies of keys. or try to go to the dealership and ask if you can get a copy of your keys. i only have one copy also and its not even an original. im gonna have to see at the dealership also.

05-30-2005, 02:19 AM	#3
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 39 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Go to the nissan dealership, there is a code they will get from you along with some sort of proof of ownership (so your not trying to steal someones car.) It should take them 5-10min to make it and cost you 10-20$ for a nice freash nissan key.

05-30-2005, 02:25 AM	#4
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I had the same problem with my s14. I went into the Nissan Dealer and they couldn't pull any codes from my VIN. I had a 96. Just get a keyless entry system or get the ignition cylinder and door cylinders off another 240 and get the keys too.

05-30-2005, 02:30 AM	#5
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 39 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	First see with the dealership, They should be able to give you a new key. 5 months ago, my GF came to visit from NC and locked her keys in her saturn. We went to the dealership and they made a new key with the vin# all for $8. took 10min. I was impressed.

05-30-2005, 02:41 AM	#7
ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, if the key to be copied is already worn out, going to Wal-mart and making an exact copy of the key isn't going to help. Try it anyways.

05-30-2005, 02:44 AM	#8
OMGWTFBBQ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: East Bay CA Posts: 741 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^^ he's right, if the key is worn down that much, that could just give you another key that does the same thing. I'd try the dealer, I've only heard good things about them handling similar situations

05-30-2005, 02:52 AM	#9
RightWheelDrive Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: cal-E-4-9-A Posts: 253 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ever try spraying some WD-40 into the key hole? If your key works fine in the ignition, I don't see why it shouldn't in your door lock.

05-30-2005, 03:08 AM	#11
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 39 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is that copper gritty looking? I bought a new gun, after shooting it, I cleaned it and wiped that stuff off. After reading the manuel, it said to avoid wiping that stuff off since its there for long time lubercation. Fuck ! !

05-30-2005, 09:09 AM	#15
black s13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: C'ville VA Age: 35 Posts: 555 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the dealership hre made me a new key, cost me like $12. my cars a 90, they didnt seem to have any problem with it.

05-30-2005, 09:34 AM	#16
cheez80 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: cali Posts: 277 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	performance nissan, duarte, ca, couldn't do shit for me. i just had it copied at the local asian locksmith. cost me $2.50

05-30-2005, 02:13 PM	#17
ghostchild316 Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Wichita,KS Age: 35 Posts: 134 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	My key was starting to get worn too.Got a copy made at Wal-Mart havent had a problem with it.

05-30-2005, 03:32 PM	#20
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 36 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I do the wal-mart thing but when it's cold I bend the keys. :/ __________________ My 240 vBgarage

05-30-2005, 03:48 PM	#21
ranisron Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bloomington, IN Age: 39 Posts: 766 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	at least you have a door lock... when I bought my car, the key cylinder is filled with a broken key inside (vandalised)... so I installed a keyless entry - well, if my battery ran out of juice I'm fucked. __________________ U13 and S13 zilvia members are friendly

05-30-2005, 03:55 PM	#22
MakotoS13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Age: 38 Posts: 4,205 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why don't you guys just have spare keys? if you have an original good copy and keep it (not using it) you shouldn't have any problems with wear on the keys.

05-30-2005, 03:58 PM	#24
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 36 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I keep a good copy to copy from. But they bend. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

05-30-2005, 04:15 PM	#25
millelu Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you go to Walmart to get copies made, do you have to use the keys they have hanging there or could I take in something like this off of eBay and they would use that? Maybe a dumb ? but I've never made a copy of keys before. __________________ My 1990 Nissan 240SX

05-30-2005, 04:25 PM	#26
OMGWTFBBQ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: East Bay CA Posts: 741 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	shouldn't matter what key you bring to them

05-30-2005, 11:46 PM	#27
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 36 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	You can bring in keys to have copied. But that key is ugly. To each his own I suppose. Snail- The graphite lube looks like metal flake. It's a silver color and just puffs out of the tube. I would go to a Glock dealer and see if you can't get some of what you wiped off. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

05-31-2005, 06:28 PM	#28
NismoDan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SF Posts: 310 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My trunk lock started acting up on me a while ago (but the door and ignition worked fine). I thought it was my key, but then I shot some WD40 into the cylinder and now it works perfectly. Try it. Also, there should be a code somewhere on a sticker (I think its the glove box, may be on the door jam) that you can take to a locksmith and they should be able to make a new key from that code with the right dimensions (not worn like a pure copy would be). __________________ C4L #34

05-31-2005, 08:01 PM	#30
trsilvias13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,984 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	go to a lock smith they can make a key from nothing. but it cost like 50bucks, but it will cost like 50bucks or so, but they fit perfect to match your existing cyclinder. and here a hint, after u get taht made, make a copy

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