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darkevildrifter · 01-19-2009, 09:38 PM

This went to ALL DRIFT EVENT HOLDERS
It seems people dont follow all the rules which makes it harder for others to have fun...

Just a reminder that if you Purchase your insurance for your event through Willow Springs Raceway there are to be absolutely no passengers unless you have an instructor in the car. If that is the case then you can have the instructor and one (1) passenger in the car at a time. We have been seeing up to 4 passengers in the car at one time with cameras hanging out of the car. This is unacceptable. If you were to have this many passengers in the car and something were to have gone wrong the insurance company would not cover you due to not following their policies. If you would like to have events where passengers are allowed you can purchase your own insurance through a different insurance group.

Affective immediately WSIR will be monitoring all drifting events. If we are to see that you have passengers in the cars we will stop your event immediately and escort the group off of the balcony circuit with NO refunds.

We have also noticed that after events there is fence knocked down and WSIR was never notified. Over the past year we at Willow Springs have tried to make rules a little lenient for the drift groups after they have shown that they are responsible and professional enough to put on at least two events at the Balcony Circuit. If these incidents do not stop we have no other choice then to make a mandatory rule that Fire Rescue is to be at each and every Drifting track day at any and all of our tracks. This rule will apply to EVERY drifting organization that comes to Willow Springs Raceway.

If you are not aware of WSIR Policies and procedures please feel free to contact us in the main office and we will be more than happy to discuss them with you.

If you have any questions or concerns you may contact Jim Hutchings or Myself at 661-256-2471.

Autumn Soriano
Accounts Receivable
Willow Springs Raceway
661-256-2471
.

darkevildrifter · 01-19-2009, 09:49 PM

This also means NO CAGE NO TANDEM!!!!!!!!

junkyiv · 01-19-2009, 09:50 PM

Pay attention people this is important!!!

darkevildrifter · 01-19-2009, 09:55 PM

yeap...........

94cc0rd · 01-19-2009, 10:13 PM

Definately noted... Please, everybody pay attention and cooperate with WSIR rules!

WSIR has been so good to ALL drift organizations!!!! Let's not ruin this relationship!

darkevildrifter · 01-19-2009, 11:18 PM

Who ever knocked over the fence fess up so the rest of us dont look bad!

MaRshMaLLow · 01-19-2009, 11:20 PM

ugh .. retarted ... back to streets we go

90hatchie · 01-19-2009, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaRshMaLLow

ugh .. retarted ... back to streets we go

dont see why this is so retarded

what i find retarded is you wanting to go back to the streets

Jimmy Up · 01-19-2009, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90hatchie

dont see why this is so retarded

what i find retarded is you wanting to go back to the streets

I dont think he means that WSIR is being retarded- but the fact that people are messing it up and ruining a good thing here.

And I am sure he is kidding about the streets lol

junkyiv · 01-19-2009, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaRshMaLLow

ugh .. retarted ... back to streets we go

Unfortunately this is the kind of attitude that WILL put us on the streets(and not the Streets Of Willow). Rather than saying "ok people let's try and keep this going so we can ALL continue to enjoy drifting" it's "oh well FUCK IT!" .

SORRY PEOPLE THAT'S JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

articdragon192 · 01-19-2009, 11:37 PM

WTF? A fence got knocked over? When was this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by junkyiv

Unfortunately this is the kind of attitude that WILL put us on the streets(and not the Streets Of Willow). Rather than saying "ok people let's try and keep this going so we can ALL continue to enjoy drifting" it's "oh well FUCK IT!" .

SORRY PEOPLE THAT'S JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

I'm gonna go with what ^^ said meaning that if people keep messing it up for us at WSIR, we will end up back on the streets.

cfrost · 01-19-2009, 11:37 PM

maybe he means grippings on streets of willow

be responsible with your drift events everyone!

junkyiv · 01-19-2009, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfrost

maybe he means grippings on streets of willow

be responsible with your drift events everyone!

I HOPE that's what he means Colin.

And YES we ALL(organizers, drivers, spectators, groupies, etc.) need to be responsible during our events and beyond. Just ONE person can RUIN it for EVERYONE. So follow the rules, be considerate of the event and venue staff, pick-up after yourselves and continue to have FUN.

karl wasabi · 01-20-2009, 12:09 AM

That's strange. A fence was knocked over at the balcony? And which one?

And I don't think fessing up to who knocked over the fence will change anything. I think Willow wants to regulate on everyone now.

MaRshMaLLow · 01-20-2009, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90hatchie

dont see why this is so retarded

what i find retarded is you wanting to go back to the streets

man i was just joking.... "Why So Serious?" ... u think i want this to end ? im at the track 2x a month

what i ment by retarted, is the fact that its comming down to this due to people not obeying the rules , so lets all stand up to this and follow them from now on if we haven't up untill now

Z33dori · 01-20-2009, 01:35 AM

that sucks i was def looking to get some ride alongs during ASB... oh well ...

darkevildrifter · 01-20-2009, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karl wasabi

That's strange. A fence was knocked over at the balcony? And which one?

And I don't think fessing up to who knocked over the fence will change anything. I think Willow wants to regulate on everyone now.

Im not saying fess up here..call the track and redeem themselfs ..we (forum people) dont need to know who it was but the track doesnt need to think it was all the event holders..besides im sure they already know who it was but i could help to say ...sorry

ericcastro · 01-20-2009, 01:59 AM

This shit really sucks.
626DRIFT EVENTS has been holding 1 or more events a month for over 2 years at Balcony, HTM, and OVAL.

Over the last several month I have seen an increase of other event organizers popping up. Some of these people run decent events, and some of these people have absolutely no business being in control of an organized event or anybodys safety.

unfortunatly, this is going to ruin it for everybody.
get ready for less seat time, more cars, and larger entry fees everyone. Mandatory Fire Safety is gonna suck.

nieko · 01-20-2009, 02:15 AM

it says if this type of stuff doesnt stop it will be mandatory for them to be there.

so

WE STOP!

and everythings cool

karl wasabi · 01-20-2009, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nieko

it says if this type of stuff doesnt stop it will be mandatory for them to be there.

so

WE STOP!

and everythings cool

HOPEFULLY. We'll just have to find out at the next event.

ericcastro · 01-20-2009, 03:22 AM

We run a pretty tight ship at 626, and have a good relation ship with WSIR.
When we have problems, we take care of them at the next event.

Im worried about the other events blowing it for everyone.

DoriSaruMark · 01-20-2009, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericcastro

We run a pretty tight ship at 626, and have a good relation ship with WSIR.
When we have problems, we take care of them at the next event.

Im worried about the other events blowing it for everyone.

I think everyone has broken at least one rule...
How many cars do you have running tandem with no cage?
just because an organization has been around for a while, doesn't mean their events are 100% problem free.

We at DriftDay have been hosting events since 2001, and we still have the occasional screw-ups. No organization will be perfect ALL of the time.
This is why we need to relay this msg to every staff member of ALL organizations to prevent WSIR from looking down on drifting as a whole.

Yes, other events could potentially ruin it for others, but Don't ever rule your organization out. you never know.

Brian · 01-20-2009, 10:09 AM

Way to go, FUCKING ASSHOLES.

Who is doing 4 people in a car????

mehsilvia · 01-20-2009, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Way to go, FUCKING ASSHOLES.

Who is doing 4 people in a car????

No shit! Thats gotta be the most retarded thing ive heard.

Brian · 01-20-2009, 10:23 AM

Seriously.

FUCKING IDIOTS.

Dousan_PG · 01-20-2009, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Way to go, FUCKING ASSHOLES.

Who is doing 4 people in a car????

i would.
if i had a jzx90/100

hahaha

WoolyS14DET · 01-20-2009, 10:33 AM

I would just like to say that whom ever is doing these stupid things that are about to/already have caused a big problem for the people that enjoy doing events at WSIR is very inconsiderate and down right STUPID !!!
You are idiots for doing these things that are going to cost us one of the only places that let's us hold drifting events.

I know that I can speak for a lot of people that will agree with me and say that they enjoy WSIR and the space that they have given us.

I personally will be watching everything that goes on at any WSIR event and if I see anything going on that is against the rules and or just down right stupid I will make sure that those people are never allowed back to WSIR to participate in any future event.

DON"T BE STUPID !!! RESPECT THE TRACK AND IT"S RULES OR GET DELT WITH !!! DON'T RUIN IT FOR THE REST OF US !!

YoungGun · 01-20-2009, 10:34 AM

Uh oh.

Let's fix this now, please.

MaRshMaLLow · 01-20-2009, 11:05 AM

i haven't seen 4 people in the car but i have seen a passanger in the back seat of an S14recording the run .... i dont think i saw him put on a seatbelt eather lol

darkevildrifter · 01-20-2009, 11:25 AM

I spoke with jim(wsir) this morning on some more issues
tandem rules as follows

Horse Thief Mile has to have a cage with side impact bars....
Oval and Balcony 5 point harness and fire extinguisher...

Drift Social had no schedule on balcony with in the last 6 months.....

01-19-2009, 09:38 PM	#1
darkevildrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: City of Buttholes!!!!!!!!!!! Age: 38 Posts: 724 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	A message from WSIR.....PLEASE READ ALL DRIFTERS This went to ALL DRIFT EVENT HOLDERS It seems people dont follow all the rules which makes it harder for others to have fun... Just a reminder that if you Purchase your insurance for your event through Willow Springs Raceway there are to be absolutely no passengers unless you have an instructor in the car. If that is the case then you can have the instructor and one (1) passenger in the car at a time. We have been seeing up to 4 passengers in the car at one time with cameras hanging out of the car. This is unacceptable. If you were to have this many passengers in the car and something were to have gone wrong the insurance company would not cover you due to not following their policies. If you would like to have events where passengers are allowed you can purchase your own insurance through a different insurance group. Affective immediately WSIR will be monitoring all drifting events. If we are to see that you have passengers in the cars we will stop your event immediately and escort the group off of the balcony circuit with NO refunds. We have also noticed that after events there is fence knocked down and WSIR was never notified. Over the past year we at Willow Springs have tried to make rules a little lenient for the drift groups after they have shown that they are responsible and professional enough to put on at least two events at the Balcony Circuit. If these incidents do not stop we have no other choice then to make a mandatory rule that Fire Rescue is to be at each and every Drifting track day at any and all of our tracks. This rule will apply to EVERY drifting organization that comes to Willow Springs Raceway. If you are not aware of WSIR Policies and procedures please feel free to contact us in the main office and we will be more than happy to discuss them with you. If you have any questions or concerns you may contact Jim Hutchings or Myself at 661-256-2471. Autumn Soriano Accounts Receivable Willow Springs Raceway 661-256-2471 . __________________ Last edited by darkevildrifter; 01-19-2009 at 11:20 PM..

01-19-2009, 09:49 PM	#2
darkevildrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: City of Buttholes!!!!!!!!!!! Age: 38 Posts: 724 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	This also means NO CAGE NO TANDEM!!!!!!!! __________________

01-19-2009, 09:55 PM	#4
darkevildrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: City of Buttholes!!!!!!!!!!! Age: 38 Posts: 724 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	yeap........... __________________

01-19-2009, 10:13 PM	#5
94cc0rd Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 35 Posts: 2,390 Trader Rating: (8) Rides Gallery: 94cc0rd Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Definately noted... Please, everybody pay attention and cooperate with WSIR rules! WSIR has been so good to ALL drift organizations!!!! Let's not ruin this relationship! __________________

01-19-2009, 11:18 PM	#6
darkevildrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: City of Buttholes!!!!!!!!!!! Age: 38 Posts: 724 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Who ever knocked over the fence fess up so the rest of us dont look bad! __________________

01-19-2009, 09:50 PM	#3
junkyiv Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: camarillo Age: 46 Posts: 406 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Pay attention people this is important!!!

01-19-2009, 11:20 PM	#7
MaRshMaLLow Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CaLifoRniA Age: 35 Posts: 1,397 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	ugh .. retarted ... back to streets we go __________________ Keeping It Real Since 1985

01-19-2009, 11:37 PM	#12
cfrost Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange, CA Age: 35 Posts: 924 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	maybe he means grippings on streets of willow be responsible with your drift events everyone! __________________

01-20-2009, 12:09 AM	#14
karl wasabi Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Walnut/SoCal Posts: 3,898 Trader Rating: (41) Feedback Score: 41 reviews	That's strange. A fence was knocked over at the balcony? And which one? And I don't think fessing up to who knocked over the fence will change anything. I think Willow wants to regulate on everyone now. __________________ Karl Wasabi Private Seller - Review Thread

01-20-2009, 01:35 AM	#16
Z33dori Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Riverview, FL Age: 32 Posts: 5,557 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	that sucks i was def looking to get some ride alongs during ASB... oh well ... __________________

01-20-2009, 02:15 AM	#19
nieko Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Westminster Age: 30 Posts: 2,694 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	it says if this type of stuff doesnt stop it will be mandatory for them to be there. so WE STOP! and everythings cool __________________

01-20-2009, 10:09 AM	#23
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Way to go, FUCKING ASSHOLES. Who is doing 4 people in a car???? __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

01-20-2009, 10:23 AM	#25
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Seriously. FUCKING IDIOTS. __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

01-20-2009, 10:33 AM	#27
WoolyS14DET Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island, NY Age: 42 Posts: 1,310 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I would just like to say that whom ever is doing these stupid things that are about to/already have caused a big problem for the people that enjoy doing events at WSIR is very inconsiderate and down right STUPID !!! You are idiots for doing these things that are going to cost us one of the only places that let's us hold drifting events. I know that I can speak for a lot of people that will agree with me and say that they enjoy WSIR and the space that they have given us. I personally will be watching everything that goes on at any WSIR event and if I see anything going on that is against the rules and or just down right stupid I will make sure that those people are never allowed back to WSIR to participate in any future event. DON"T BE STUPID !!! RESPECT THE TRACK AND IT"S RULES OR GET DELT WITH !!! DON'T RUIN IT FOR THE REST OF US !!

01-20-2009, 10:34 AM	#28
YoungGun Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 818-951 SoCal Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Uh oh. Let's fix this now, please.

01-20-2009, 11:05 AM	#29
MaRshMaLLow Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CaLifoRniA Age: 35 Posts: 1,397 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	i haven't seen 4 people in the car but i have seen a passanger in the back seat of an S14recording the run .... i dont think i saw him put on a seatbelt eather lol __________________ Keeping It Real Since 1985

01-20-2009, 11:25 AM	#30
darkevildrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: City of Buttholes!!!!!!!!!!! Age: 38 Posts: 724 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I spoke with jim(wsir) this morning on some more issues tandem rules as follows Horse Thief Mile has to have a cage with side impact bars.... Oval and Balcony 5 point harness and fire extinguisher... Drift Social had no schedule on balcony with in the last 6 months..... __________________

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