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KoukiS14 · 03-11-2003, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by AKADriver
People ship rear subframes all the time, an S14 HICAS rear subframe shouldn't be impossible to get.

But then there's the wiring/controller, and power steering lines to the back, etc... not easy stuff to add.

d'oh. .yeah, u are correct. .

SHINCHU · 03-12-2003, 07:07 AM

cant keep the correct toe and camber with coilovers? so what is happening now that i have eibach sportlines? the car is lowered, therefore changing at least the camber, and the hicas still works fine. sorry, but that just doesnt make sense.

chris
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nrcooled · 03-12-2003, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shinchu180sx
cant keep the correct toe and camber with coilovers? so what is happening now that i have eibach sportlines? the car is lowered, therefore changing at least the camber, and the hicas still works fine. sorry, but that just doesnt make sense.

chris
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I don't know the actuall measurements on what they need to be for HICAS equiped car but that is the primary reason that manufaturers don't make suspension parts specifically for the HICAS 240s. My system lowered 1.75"front and 1.25" rear now is a little "quirky" during highspeed cornering. After going to Nissan to ask some questions (they wouldn't touch my car w/ a ten foot pole) I was informed that HICAS needs exact specs on camber caster toe and the like to be effective and stable at speed.

To me it's not severe enough to take the suspension off but a little unstable at speed around corners. Just a FYI.

Dousan_PG · 03-12-2003, 01:36 PM

toe changes w/ camber changes. not dramatically but it still changes.

hey shinchu give me your hicas steering rack! hahaha

SHINCHU · 03-12-2003, 07:37 PM

no way dood its MINE! hahaha

my suspension feels fine when cornering at high speed. i feel like i can nail the throttle at any time during the corner and still keep it pointed exactly where i want to with no "quirks" or whatever you call them. i have KYB AGX in front, stock rear, and sportlines all the way around. this set up on hicas is awsome when you set the AGX at 3 for touge, 2 for daily drive and drift. i tried 4 at drift showoff and i dont think enough wieght was transfering but i was still pulling some nice drifts. anyway, my point is i took it on a touge run on saturday night, and i felt like i couldnt go fast enough through corners. it took everything i threw at it. i actually backed off cuz i was scared i would push it too hard because of over-confidence from the suspension feel. but what do i know i've only been doing touge for like 7 years. before i even called it "touge". what are you used to, a porsche? im not flaming i just have a hard time believing a hicas car could suffer that much from such a minor change in ride hieght. maybe your specific car has poblems? have you driven other hicas cars with lowered suspensions? im just really curious whats going on.

chris
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rps13sh · 11-08-2003, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by misnomer
**** dood, I feel like I'm one of the only guys who would trade up to HICAS in a heartbeat. . . :P

And here everybody is trying to kill it.

i would never kill it.

gotime242 · 11-08-2003, 04:14 PM

Alright, i need to jump in on this.

I havnt bought my s13 yet, but i think there is one for sale close with Hicas, but im afraid that when i start getting into it, with drifting, autocross, and high-speed turns with lowered suspesnion and all, that it would make thigns squirly.

Phase II Motortrend has an eliminator kit for 145.00
http://store.yahoo.com/phase2motorsp...mhicelkit.html

But, once this is diconnected, how much crap is going to be left over to just weight the car down... How much does the HICAS sstem weigh? I will be doing weight reduction on the s13, so this is kind of important.

I also like to keep things simple, and just dont know if i want a hicas-equipped car...

So what about that weight? And what does the system include that i could remove, or have to leave?

And it sucks that i wouldnt be able to do an after market steering wheel, because that is very important to me as well. Or do they make a hub?

Thanks

gotime242 · 11-08-2003, 04:29 PM

Also, i dont even want power steering. So could i just rip everything out all together?

*HaLo* · 11-08-2003, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -zeroCool-
Also, i dont even want power steering. So could i just rip everything out all together?

Why wouldn't you want powersteering?????

gotime242 · 11-09-2003, 05:02 PM

I duno, im just used to not having it, and like the manual feeling, plus i can ditch a few pds with out having it...

*HaLo* · 11-09-2003, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -zeroCool-
I duno, im just used to not having it, and like the manual feeling, plus i can ditch a few pds with out having it...

whatever floats your boat. I wouldn't ditch the powersteering.

misnomer · 11-09-2003, 10:19 PM

comical "I would not kill it" revives an eight month old thread :P

Anyhow, very rarely should you go by an advertisement for information on the need for a part. They are trying to sell you the part. Heck, we used to try to convince people shit would give them fellatio to sell things at CompUSA :P

03-12-2003, 07:07 AM	#32
SHINCHU Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Temecula, CA Age: 42 Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SHINCHU Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what? cant keep the correct toe and camber with coilovers? so what is happening now that i have eibach sportlines? the car is lowered, therefore changing at least the camber, and the hicas still works fine. sorry, but that just doesnt make sense. chris TEAM DUCK SNIPER

03-12-2003, 01:36 PM	#34
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	toe changes w/ camber changes. not dramatically but it still changes. hey shinchu give me your hicas steering rack! hahaha __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

11-09-2003, 10:19 PM	#42
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	comical "I would not kill it" revives an eight month old thread :P Anyhow, very rarely should you go by an advertisement for information on the need for a part. They are trying to sell you the part. Heck, we used to try to convince people shit would give them fellatio to sell things at CompUSA :P __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

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03-12-2003, 07:37 PM	#35
SHINCHU Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Temecula, CA Age: 42 Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SHINCHU Feedback Score: 0 reviews	no way dood its MINE! hahaha my suspension feels fine when cornering at high speed. i feel like i can nail the throttle at any time during the corner and still keep it pointed exactly where i want to with no "quirks" or whatever you call them. i have KYB AGX in front, stock rear, and sportlines all the way around. this set up on hicas is awsome when you set the AGX at 3 for touge, 2 for daily drive and drift. i tried 4 at drift showoff and i dont think enough wieght was transfering but i was still pulling some nice drifts. anyway, my point is i took it on a touge run on saturday night, and i felt like i couldnt go fast enough through corners. it took everything i threw at it. i actually backed off cuz i was scared i would push it too hard because of over-confidence from the suspension feel. but what do i know i've only been doing touge for like 7 years. before i even called it "touge". what are you used to, a porsche? im not flaming i just have a hard time believing a hicas car could suffer that much from such a minor change in ride hieght. maybe your specific car has poblems? have you driven other hicas cars with lowered suspensions? im just really curious whats going on. chris TEAM DUCK SNIPER

11-08-2003, 04:14 PM	#37
gotime242 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ft. Myers FL Posts: 110 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Alright, i need to jump in on this. I havnt bought my s13 yet, but i think there is one for sale close with Hicas, but im afraid that when i start getting into it, with drifting, autocross, and high-speed turns with lowered suspesnion and all, that it would make thigns squirly. Phase II Motortrend has an eliminator kit for 145.00 http://store.yahoo.com/phase2motorsp...mhicelkit.html But, once this is diconnected, how much crap is going to be left over to just weight the car down... How much does the HICAS sstem weigh? I will be doing weight reduction on the s13, so this is kind of important. I also like to keep things simple, and just dont know if i want a hicas-equipped car... So what about that weight? And what does the system include that i could remove, or have to leave? And it sucks that i wouldnt be able to do an after market steering wheel, because that is very important to me as well. Or do they make a hub? Thanks

11-08-2003, 04:29 PM	#38
gotime242 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ft. Myers FL Posts: 110 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Also, i dont even want power steering. So could i just rip everything out all together?

11-09-2003, 05:02 PM	#40
gotime242 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ft. Myers FL Posts: 110 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I duno, im just used to not having it, and like the manual feeling, plus i can ditch a few pds with out having it...