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Old 06-23-2009, 12:26 PM   #31
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haha, that's what I'm going for.
stock as can be. No illegal parts. No wasted money on tickets that should never happen.
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more power to you for stayin stock. its hard for some of us to grasp that idea lol

I have a friend who got pulled over for seat belt harnesses in his old supra, his response to being pulled over? "Well the dont make original parts for this car anymore so this is what I could come up with".. lol it got him out of a ticket lol. yes harnesses are not safe on the street either *its his life anyways lol
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I think some people just get to a point where they ask "Is this shit worth it anymore?"

It's fun to drive around a loud little bastard of a car, but damn, you gotta pay to play that game.
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we need to come up with a code of the streets, i.e. no loud exhaust or boso pipes, no decals, etc etc lol
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some companies are starting to make "stealth" products. i just bought an Evo so ive been on thier forums recently. the new AEM intake for the Evo X is pretty stealthy.
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Isn't the Evo pretty damn bossy straight out of the box, though?
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forgot to add this, the douche bag also said

cop: YOU HAVE AN AFTERMARKET HEAD.
me: you mean my valve cover? i just sprayed it a different color. what a complete tard. lololol.

already got a mind set. get a 510, swap my built ka into there, slap a huge ass turbo on my KA. and laugh at every cop in the world. while hearing that turbo spool ehehe.

i slammed hood after everything was done because it was unnecessary of a ref ticket they were giving me a hard time when i was being reasonable with them explaining im just wanting to get some damn food. my additude was chill, i just wanted them to leave me alone, i didn't give them a hardtime, but everytime i spoke, they cut me off, saying its an excuse, blahblahblah. harassing me about everything. i'm already going through hard times with life, they just happened to make it worst, so i explained everything to them and they said it was excuses. they said i had excuses for everything. lol!

i didn't buy an intake to gain whatever hp, i just used whatever was around.

thats why im going back to stock. i never had a stock air box on my car, and the intake isn't even mine, my friend basically is letting me borrow it for a long time because since we finished building my motor it was the only intake laying around, since it was c.a.r.b. i thought it was fine.

exhaust, i learned already that it was too loud, due to so much work and so many other things i don't even have time to work on my car, i got a stock downpipe and exhaust just waiting to be put on lol.

i got an exhaust ticket in idle like 2 months ago.. it's on an extension right now. i already knew, i explained to them i already have a fix it for my exhaust, but they kept being bitches.. so i picked up a stock downpipe,exhaust.

a lot of cops are really just trying to make their quotas at the end of the month, i realized that too. all them pigs everywhere lol.

i'm not gonna pass the db, its pretty loud. i am gonna get it back to stock, i am going to fight it, cuz its bs ..

honestly! if i was a freaking rice burner revving in the parking lot and had neon glows n shit with fat torbo. i'd be okay with getting a ref cause i'd know i was guilty, in this case i didnt do shit, so it's kinda funny.

"one of my friends asked an officer if it was okay to flip off a cop, he said yeah well we can't stop you, but see your friend over there, she would get pulled over for tinted windows."

therefore; when im back to stock, im flipping them off everytime i see them, its not hard to miss two douche bags i'll always remember their faces and i hope they get theirs one day.

i'm actually a really nice guy, i don't act thug or anything, i dress appropriate when i go to court, i know when to curse and when not to curse. so i think things should be fine, they just knocked me off balance when i first received it, super shocked. mind is straight now.

just sharing what happened, cause all my friends thought it was BS! lol.
i'm not complaining, i don't really care, their just another asshole unfair cops. most cops are dicks, i've only met one nice cop.

off to work, like every other day lol.
it was nice reading peoples inputs. i heard ref tickets are pretty pricey eek.
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Isn't the Evo pretty damn bossy straight out of the box, though?
yeah, it doesnt fly under the radar but its not as loud as my old Mazdaspeed(stock at least)

here is the AEM intake


make your own top to the box (so it doesnt say AEM) and you would never get messed with.
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original poster - It's easy to talk big on the net, so I assume that's all you're doing. BUT, your post is pretty typical. bad attitude, etc... You act like you're above the law. Well, at the end of the day, obviously you aren't.

You have multiple tickets for the same problems now. When will you learn? You know what the police can and will do? Fuck you. They have the power to do whatever they want.


I still agree that it sucks pretty bad what happened, but, you seemed to be asking for problems (if you really think about it)
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Ya the Evo is pretty quick out of the box, but big gains can be had with simple bolt-ons. The Evo is soo quiet stock though, I can't hear it haha. There are a crapload of "stealth" parts out for the Evos now though =).

I think 240s can start going the stealth route too with the Apexi Noir exhaust, anodizing / painting FMIC's and pipes, etc.
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I'm gonna go back to stock air box.

I got my second ref ticket for my air filter

not even a full intake

the cop also argued with me for fifteen minuts that my ignition coil was after market. I was forced to give him a lesson which pissed him off more and led him into writing me up for moddified emissions for the ref. loud exhaust. and body panels being below the rim. I mean my cars on 18's so they aren't but then again my car is slammed. and like stated. you gotta pay to play the game. I'm going back to stock airbox to keep me out of trouble. or at least with the reff. sorry to steal your thread man but I just wanted to share my experiance. also. is it true if you get your third ticket you can't register your car anymore unless corrected??
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already got a mind set. get a 510, swap my built ka into there, slap a huge ass turbo on my KA. and laugh at every cop in the world. while hearing that turbo spool ehehe.

go wiht a Z, ur not gonna get any girls with a 510 lol
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Old 06-23-2009, 04:38 PM   #43
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atleast you didnt get a ref ticket WITH your stock exhaust on.

stupid KA-T just had to be under my hood when they popped me.
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I think some people just get to a point where they ask "Is this shit worth it anymore?"

It's fun to drive around a loud little bastard of a car, but damn, you gotta pay to play that game.
It hurts, but thats the truth lol
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i see that a lot.
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I feel ya pain man! i have the same shit to deal with right now. Going to Court on jamboree st. had the modded exhaust on stock KA24e but it did rumble their nuts enough to pull me over and tell me that the exhaust is chromy and loud. cop gave me a ticket, i told the judge that i bought the car like that and he told me to correct it and ill be fine. COPS are the real dumbshits of the law, Judges are cool as fuck. Cops follow the law, Judges see if those laws are neccessery or not. U might get lucky man, good luck!
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Damn. If your intake is CARB legal, then guess what, it's LEGAL. If you had paperwork, it would've been icing on the cake. You totally didn't have to sign that ticket. Think they're going to go through the trouble to drag your ass to jail over an intake? Not to mention, the intake is LEGAL! Do me a favor, arb.ca.gov, and go to aftermarket database and print out the intake exemption paperwork, so you can tell the next pig who gives you shit to fucking stuff it.

Damn... you should've stirred up some shit over that. You spent the extra time and money to stay legal, but some POS cop wants to hassle you over a profile? Cops don't know the laws they're supposed to enforce, so they bullshit a lot of youngins, and you guys fall for it.

Is your exhaust even proven to be legal? Have it tested before reverting to stock. It may be loud, but if it's under the 95db requirement, then your exhaust is LEGAL also. Apexi even issued a bulletin to the CHP to inform them about the exhaust laws since a LOT of people were getting shitted on, yet had a legal catback.

STOP taking all this shit from cops. The majority of these rejects don't know shit... but boy are you in a world of hurt if you come across the ones that do LOL!

Keeping your cars stock is weak. You're letting these nazis win. Use the system against them, so you can have fun and not have to worry.

I'll agree though, courtesy goes a long way. Never antagonize a cop, unless you are 200% in the right. If you were aware of the intake being legal and the laws, you could have refused that ticket. Stating that you were ticketed for the exhaust, but continued to drive around with it anyway wasn't exactly the brightest thing either.

Anyway, fight the ticket, get your money back, and file a formal complaint against that officer for harassment.
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lol i would of asked to speak to her C.O immediatly if she didn't understand what C.A.R.B. means. and its not illegal to have a modified exhaust as long as it was not modified for sound and is cat/back only.
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haven't had time to pull the exhaust off, i always thought when they give you a fix it ticket their suppose to give you time to "fix it" i've been followed by a few cops here and they tail me, then run my plates and see that i have the damn ticket already and just back off. i was going to do it whenever i had the spare time, i don't live in a house so it's kinda hard to do, i have to depend on my friend to work at his shop and hes been going through some rough times so he hasn't been around.

my post isn't typical bad additude i'm just stating what happened , multiple tickets? i have one fix it ticket, then this ref. i was warned, and instead of assumptions, you should get facts. if i haven't learned my lesson. i'd be like FUCK THE POLICE, I'm keeping this shit on even though its LOUD AS FUCK!, i went out of my way to get stock shits for my car so i could fix the issue, because I LEARNED ALREADY. tyvm.

i seem to be asking for problems? i wasn't racing, i wasn't drunk, i wasn't revving, i wasn't on drugs, and i wasn't driving like a dick to attract attention, or doing anything uneccesary all i was just trying to do was get some food, and i get hassle'd for NOTHING. i was literally PARKED LOL. they didn't put the lights or anything, they walked up to my car and gave me a tough time, i kept my cool until they gave me the ref ticket.

i always wanted a 510 before any of this came along, i didn't want to get hassle'd for being ka-t =X so i set my plans aside till i can get a 510, so i enjoy driving it around with no worries. i respect cops, and i know some keyword:some are doing their jobs, some just take advantage, and in this case, they were taking advantage of their power.

it's true, you gotta pay to play the game, i already did pay, for a stock exhaust .. and the fee for the fix it when that comes around the corner. and i was in progress of swapping exhaust whenever i could find time, i even had it up on zilvia for the longest trying to get rid of it LOL.

they had me there for pretty long, more than 15 minutes probably, it was about 11pm at night, the retard wrote down 12:15pm, lol ?! there were a lot of racers there, they probably started a meet there or something it was maybe one block from where i parked.

yeah i'm gonna print out all that crap, have all my papers and learn my rights so this bull doesn't happen again. im almost certain i won't pass the db LOL, it's pretty loud? i'm not sure though.

fighting the ticket, getting money back, moving on to big and better things, karma will hit them one day.

i'm already getting over the ticket, it's like taking candy from a baby. just knowing my car is so close to stock. it's going to be simple.

sorry for everyone else that got owned, good luck with the reff. a few of my friends got owned here as well, about 4 of them by the same cop.

anyways.
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that sucks a ref ticket for a carb legal intake about a year ago a cop popped my hood and he let me go with a warning.Im SR i told i just bought the car i dont know anything about it he let me go...lol
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Are you stationed in Miramar or something? I've never seen your car... I know a few on 32nd... and I saw a Khaki driving a pretty nice S14 the other day lol you know he has an SR... sometimes the Military Decals help haha I'm PCSing to Hawaii I don't want to but my car might be safer there even though it's street legal but if the military taught me anything in life... it's CYA.


27151. (a) No person shall modify the exhaust system of a motor vehicle in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the motor of the vehicle so that the vehicle is not in compliance with the provisions of Section 27150 or exceeds the noise limits established for the type of vehicle in Article 2.5 (commencing with Section 27200). No person shall operate a motor vehicle with an exhaust system so modified. (b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment.

Amended Sec. 10, Ch. 92, Stats. 2001. Effective January 1, 2002.

Vehicle Code Pub... If it's not there you can't get a ticket for it, unless you let them do it! I've always been on their good side... just be respectful and don't act a fool... but a dick will always be a dick.

Heck a sheriff followed me for 10 miles for going 90 he told I was going 85 and to go 75 and CHP can't tell and sent me on my way... I always go 75 now LOL... and it works!
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I'd like to see people put up a fight (not physical) against some officers for an exhaust or intake ticket. It would be amazing and you would lose. They might even smack the shit out of you.
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jinesz32 - When did you get busted for the exhaust the first time?
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about 2 months ago, and it's still on extension for another month.

until august 22. and getting that first exhaust was bullshit too. i saw the cop from far away, i put it in nuetral and let it roll pass him i was at idle already, pulls out and puts the lights on, lol.

i could put up a fight with an officer. and i would win and make them look like a fucking retard. if i really wanted to, i could get a silencer for the exhaust and go to ref and get the damn stamp that i passed the db and i won't get hassle'd about my exhaust anymore. i'll print all this bullshit, and print out that my carb legal intake is legal. since OBVIOUSLY these rookie cops don't know jack shit. even a civilian knows more shit then they ever will. they hassle'd me for a fucking air freshner. ROFL ? make me laugh more. they should get smacked a billion times or get kicked off the squad for being so stupid.

please do some research and get some facts, PLEASE.

V.C. Section 27156 - Gross Polluter: Air Pollution Control Device

INTAKE.

(h) This section shall not apply to an alteration, modification, or modifying device, apparatus, or mechanism found by resolution of the State Air Resources Board to do either of the following:

"IT IS ORDERED AND RESOLVED: That installation of the cold air system (CAS) and the short ram system (SRS)Intake air kits, manufactured by advance engine management, Inc. of 2205 126th street, Unit A, Hawthorne, California 90250, has been found not to reduce the effectiveness of the applicable vehicle pollution control systems, and therefore, the CAS and the SRS intake air kits are exempt from the prohibitions in section 27156 of the vehicle code for installation on the gasoline vehicles listed in Attachment A.

LISTED.
EO D-392-18.
1995-1998 240sx KA24DE.

LMAO. theres for the carb legal intake, its a PDF, you can download it and look it up if you'd LOVE to learn about FACTS.

EXHAUST SYSTEM.

V.C. Section 27151 - Modification of Exhaust Systems

95 DB. i'd go out and buy a silencer just to prove my point but whats the point in that ? your talking as if you know everything

(b) For the purposes of exhaust systems installed on motor vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 6,000 pounds, other than motorcycles, a sound level of 95 dbA or less, when tested in accordance with Society of Automotive Engineers Standard J1169 May 1998, complies with this section. Motor vehicle exhaust systems or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust equipment.
Amended Sec. 10, Ch. 92, Stats. 2001. Effective January 1, 2002.


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read this bull shit =] too, since you think cops win everything, i don't know where you've been, cause cops are corrupted all over the world. theres only a few that are actually doing their jobs right. i saw this awhile back, watch the video too ! see what kind of a hassle' stupid cops do ? i understand he flew through a red light, he just wanted the ticket and see his mother.

Dallas police chief apologizes for conduct of officer who drew gun on NFL player outside hospital | News for Dallas, Texas | Dallas Morning News | Latest News



i didn't do anything wrong =] see the problem there? no red lights or ANYTHING wahwhawhawhahwahw, and im looking for PROBLEMS, WOW where are you getting all of this, i would honestly loveee to know. i didn't do jack shit ! correupted cops everywhere.

end of story, if you like i can get thousands more facts for you.
print everything out, get pulled over, get hood poped, shove everything in their face and tell them to stfu and leave you alone. this goes for your two topics "intake, and exhaust"

cop: whats this intake, its illegal.
me: it has a c.a.r.b sticker.
cop: giving me a hard time.
me: let me get my paper work. BAM shove it in his face.
cop: looks stupid, trys to get me for something else. "roll up your windows"
me: LOL ok, BAM NO TINTS SUCKA!
cop: looks even more stupid, just trying to find anything.
me: laughs at him cause he can't find shit on a stock car.

and for exhaust, if you pass the db test at the ref, you ge some papers from the ref, so cops can't hassle you, LMAO ..

OKAY I WOULD LOSE .


the police. =]

if you got your shit straight, and have all your shit printed, you'd win.

k thanks. anything else? i'm a noob, you should already know these things, since you know everything.

please.. just stop.
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In 2 months you haven't had time to change the exhaust?

I'm pretty sure an office would just laugh at this.


Some cops might be crooked... oh well. So are civilians.


Good luck with winning all your stuff.


Good luck acting like a tough dude to an officer.

That's all.

Police deserve more credit than they are given.

p.s. I didn't read anything you linked. I don't care. I didn't even read everything you typed.


You can choose to fight the law, but they will probably win.



Keep us updated with everything.

I hope you prove me wrong with everything.
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damn. i slapped my stock exhaust back on. and put on an aftermarket intake. seeing this shit happen its not even worth the ticket. slappin that stock intake back on.
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Silencer might not work dude. Depends on the ref. Supposedly, that shit needs to be welded on now, or else it doesn't count... LOL! Don't quote me on that though, haven't actually seen the legislation for that.

Brian, you give cops too much credit. Unless they're CHP/street racing unit, they probably don't know shit about these laws, as evidenced by the cop that pulled the OP over. Reminds me of the dude with a stock STI that got a ticket for the STOCK WING!
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CALI SUCKS !!! mann it seems like they are really strict up there here in vegas u can have what ever motor u what but u have to have papers and for a honda vin on the tranny they rarely pop hoods on 240s only honda ... my homie drives his sr20 daily with no front bumper and BIG AS IC and hardly gets harassed
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I think until you have been a cop, you should shut your mouth about trash talking them. I firmly believe it's the most difficult job out there. You risk being killed every single day. A lot of people hate you just because of your job, and you just do not get the credit you deserve.

Does it suck real bad to get busted when all you did was go get some food? Hell yes. I would be upset too. BUT...... BUT, the thing is this.

Modify your car and you are just asking to get busted. Act like a tough guy with them and you are now BEGGING to get busted.

It isn't FAIR, but too bad. If you want to drive in california, deal with the consequences.
We have fucked up air, fucked up budget, fucked up people. Modify your car. GO for it. Might as well just write a check to california as soon as you bolt on your exhaust.


I drive a stock J30 everyday. Do I ever get busted for stupid shit like this? Hell no.

Would you go into a lion's cage with some meat strapped to your chest? I hope not.
So, why the hell drive in CA with stupid ass "illegal" modifications to your car?


to: original poster - My intent isn't to attack you. I'm pointing shit out that SHOULD hopefully be obvious to people. Like I said earlier, I hope you get off easy and don't have any fines or whatnot. but if you do, it shouldnt be a surprise.
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