Pandapants

That's what I was thinking, and that the graph beginning at +50 is for the fronts.

240sxScores

You're saying on the megan dyno chart you posted that the compression curve is the bottom line??

Why would compression be negative force??

unreal-

Yea i tried it in both directions.

95KA-Turbo

Yeah, the megan one is definitely not flipped, its just shitty as hell.

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Pandapants

I think it has to do with a type of dyno used, b/c i've seen koni dynos with compression on bottom (-) and rebound on top (+).

PoorMans180SX

Thanks for providing these updates 95KA. Looks like you're going to have to paint your fenders with high-heat paint eh? haaha, awesome.

I am enjoying this thread a lot. I am puzzled by Fortunes dyno plots simply because they contain what looks like dual curves for each compression and rebound. Front and rear dyno's overlaid?

I'm excited to order my set.

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HayaiSaru

Megan says bottom is compression.

95KA-Turbo

Ok, so I drove around my neighborhood yesterday and today and I have to say the suspension feels even better then it did before. It feels exactly like my friend's 350Z with KW Variant 3s. Its stiff but it takes bumps smoothly and the shocks absorb the impact so there is no bouncing at all. I would highly recommend getting the swift springs with the fortunes, its totally worth the extra money.

I currently have all of the collars in and it settled to almost the same height as it is in those photos I took without collars, haha. There is a drift event at the end of March and I'll be at that with a proper alignment and what not, so I can give a better review on how they feel then.

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iamtheyi

Updates? I finally ordered my set and they're coming in next week. Starting to regret getting 8/6kg and wish I'd gone through with 9/7 but oh well. I'll post up my experience with them soon.

In the meantime, 95ka any updates?

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I missed the drift event, but I did do a local cruse/drive thing. They feel really awesome on the street. My tires were rubbing the whole time and my alignment was all out of wack, but the car handled bumps nicely.

I'm trying to get the car 100% complete right now, and the next local event is the beginning of June....then east coast bash at the end of June. So I should be able to give a decent review at that point.

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g_mac530

My 510's with the swift springs arrived yesterday, I'll be installing them next week. Pretty excited about it. Got the 9k 7k setup btw

bikrman2

I got my 500's last February Absolutely LOVE them. Great street ride and even better track ride. I'll be sending them back to fortune at the end of this season for a re-valve and swift springs. Does anyone know if they can do the dlc coating on the older style? Or would I need new tubes?

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sex14

ordered mine last Thursday. hopefully it comes mid week this week.

iamtheyi

Mine coming in tomorrow hopefully! Will update. With pics too hopefully.

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tricky_ab

Please do! It would be nice to hear some more hands on reports...

unreal-

I guess its time to post my own review of these coilovers

10/8 rates, Street valving, Standard Springs.

I bought these coilovers after reading this thread, and many other scattered around the internetz. When i got my set, the first thing out of my mouth was: "GOD DAMN THESE ARE HUGE". Compared to my old shock and spring these were wayyy beefy. Strangely enough they were a few lb lighter than the old crappy springs i had. After a fun time installing, with stuck bolts, etc. and a ISIS rear arm upgrade, i finally got the car somewhat aligned and got to enjoy the coilovers.

For a few weeks i had an intermittent problem with a popping sound whenever i turned the wheel. This was rectified by increasing the preload on the spring. It was because i had inadvertently loosed the upper perches in my excitement to lower these to the max before they were on the car. Now that they are on, and settled i realized a few things: One is that the fronts dont go that low. With my rates, i still have 1 finger gap in the front. Rears can pretty much go lower than the titanic. I have mine almost all the way up and i am slightly tucking 17s. Two, these are VERY comfortable considering my rates. A few freinds have rode in my car and said the same thing. It sure doesnt seem like it when you push down on the car, but for the most part, sans bumps in the road and the slight elevation changes on the hwy, its not bouncy.

Im currently piecing together my 5lug setup, and im definitely going to remove at least 1 collar to get the height i want in the front. finger gap is for pussies

That said, i highly recommend these coilovers!

iamtheyi

DAMN IT. Now I completely regret getting my 8/6 rates. Should've gotten 9/7 for my s14. Guess I'll have to do it when I get the swift springs and helpers.

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daftphunk

Looking at getting these from a buddy tomorrow. Since the reports of the front not going 'that' low, how low can you actually get with these? I am upgrading from some Tein Basic coils for these. Those go decently low but I was hoping that I would get better coils with these Fortunes and also be able to go lower.

unreal-

Fronts: 1 finger gap, maxxed out without removing collars; 5-6mm between upper perches and lower perch. (thats how mine is). If you remove the bottom collar, which i plan to do soon, im sure you can get it to slightly tuck in the front.
Rears: Titanic low. The rear of your car will find nemo.

bikrman2

HA! Pull both collars and flip the perch and see what happens!
Better either have small wheels or be tubbed because my car litterally sat the 205-50-17's on the stock fender "tub" on my s13 hatch

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^ Sounds gangster. I'm gonna install mine this Friday I'll let you know how it all goes and I'll support this thread with a review.

iamtheyi

still haven't f-ing gotten mine in. Getting very disappointed right now...

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Perfect Balance

That right there is the reason they don't go so low. They use an 8 inch spring for the 10kg, and iirc the 8kg is a 7 inch spring, or they just compress that much more or something. In any case, I pulled both collars and cut an inch off the lower mount to get my car to tuck 205/45/17s about 1 cm.

Although now, if I wanted to go buy a 7 or 6 inch spring, I could be tucking rim in the front.

Flipping the perch doesn't work because it reverses the camber adjustment that you have with the slotted mount, so you end up with a lot of positive camber. I tried that, and maxed out negative, I still probably had no more than -1 degrees of camber.

unreal-

Gotcha. I had a feeling that was the case, but i wasnt too sure. Thanks for the clarification.

In due time, like a few other in this thread, i plan to send em back for a rebuild and swift springs. But that wont be for another 2 years or so.

Its funny watching the look on peoples faces when i push down on my car and it barely moves haha. Keeps my undercairrage, and fender liners fully intact. and i dont bottom out on potholes, and it keeps my exhaust from dying.

andisan

So, Fortune + swift = Great for DD
Is that what most of you guys are saying from your experiance with the coilovers? I might consider them over stance if thats the case, And do the swift springs come in different rates? and if so would 8/6 be good for DD?
Thanks guys

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daftphunk

So these def do go low, at least I think mine are. My lip is probably 2 inches off the ground and I still have both collars in there and I haven't flipped the mounting perch at all. I am tucking 225/40/18 on my car. Going to try and get an alignment tomorrow after I fix all of this. They ride great though.

g_mac530

So got the 510's on the car. Still need an alignment, but I think something may be wrong? I have been riding around my house and I took the car on the highway and it feels waayyy too bouncey. I have the 9k 7k spring rates with the swift spring with rear helpers. I had a set of coils in my old prelude and they felt better. The spring rate was 8k/6k on those but I dont think the rate was that much of a change.

Did I put them on wrong perhaps? I have never had a rear helper spring and I did not preload the springs at all.

sex14

nice car daftphunk btw its the guy with the blue s14

unreal-

Make sure that the preload is set right (Just enough so the spring doesnt move up and down or side to side, or rotate) and Up the dampening to somewhere in the double digits, with the rears 4-5 less than the fronts. With my 10/8s, at 20/16 dampening it rides with almost no bounce. Im sure it would lessen if i toned it down to 15/10 or something. Also give it a few weeks to settle. They ride a lot better once you put a few hundred miles on em. Out of the box they are a bit bouncy.

95KA-Turbo

For the preload, you don't want the spring to move up and down or side to side, but you do want it to rotate/spin freely.

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