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Old 01-31-2010, 05:00 PM   #31
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travel to more events further away, that way you can go to a new places, take the family with you, make it a vacation.


Idk i think unless we(humans/people) have something that we are passionate and care for (obsessed with) we will pretty much go insane. We are put on this plane to live and be successful, aslong as your hobby is putting you in serious trouble (living paycheck to paycheck) i see no problem. I mean it never hurts to try and cut back, save a lil extra money for the kids or whatever, but fuck it.
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Eric is right!, I'm going to drop everything i loved to do with my life and go see a play...
lol, i go out normally, but i know where my heart is.
(and for the record, my girl built my sr20 with me, and we just did the diff and HICAS removal on the GTR & she can't keep her hands off the welder too
lol, i just took your quote.
What you said is the general consensus of alot of these younger guys.
As were it looks like you really lucked out with a girl with similar interest, we all know thats very rare.
I watch these kids bring there girls to meets and events, and watch how bored the girls are.
Im just saying you cant be 100% about the car.
you have to get out and experience life, and if everything you have goes to the car, your gonna fall behind on what the rest of society is doing.

Ive met way to many old guys that were 100% about cars, and now are a little sour, have little friends, failed relationships (or still chasing that one), and they have a hard time comunicating and working with others.

Basically, make your car your bitch, and live your life, dont let in make you the bitch and stop you from enjoying the 80 years you get here on earth this time round.

BTW, i saw Wicked last year and it was fucking awesome!
i need to get some money together and take my girl to a play/musical soon.
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it makes me sick to think I've spent well over 20k on a car hasn't started in 2 years. The.....Neverending.....Project
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lol, i go out normally, but i know where my heart is.
(and for the record, my girl built my sr20 with me, and we just did the diff and HICAS removal on the GTR & she can't keep her hands off the welder too
Sorry if this has already been said but that is immediately hot even though I can't see her face, just for tunerness alone.
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BTW, i saw Wicked last year and it was fucking awesome!
i need to get some money together and take my girl to a play/musical soon.
That's pretty cool....my brother was in Wicked in LA at that time, you probably saw him....he has since moved back to NYC and is doing West Side Story on Broadway there.
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We have 4 240's in the house because both my wife and I have 2 different play cars. I have a garage queen and a track beater as does she. We also have 2 regular cars for work. We do not live paycheck to paycheck in anyway, but in the end and after just filing my taxes I look back and wonder, woah , where did it all go? Then I remember, oh yea VSKF's, stance, another engine swap, tuning (money spent on something you only feel LMAO) ect ect...

Maybe being older now and having 2 kids who will more than likely also be in this scene has made me alot more aware of the money which goes into this lifestyle. Which in reality is what it is for us. A lifestyle, some of us live a little bit higher in it while others are a little bit lower on the totem poles still. Its all about what you can afford or are willing to spend this year. I guess its just another rant, maybe next year Ill travel the world instead of twin turboing a c6 zo6 corvette. But man O' man what 1000hp would feel like!
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from the time i was out of high school til about 2 years ago i spent ALL of my money on cars, rarely ate out, very rarely went to the bar, ate cheap as shit, never bought new clothes. the car was rad and going to events and shit is rad but, ive been spendin gall my money on clothes and bars lately and it kinda blows. just need to find a middle ground between real life and the car shit.
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It's hard for me to do something like that.
There's just too much to enjoy in life.
I've tried just focusing on cars & track days only,
but i find that life that way to be unbearably boring.

Granted, i make some compromises.
Keeping 1 project car (vs. 6) has done wonders.
I just throw parts on my 240 year by year.
I also finance a relatively stock evo that I enjoy driving just as much.
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Same here, but I haven't started my car in 6 years!
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WOW 6 YEARS THE FUCK? and I tought my 5 month porsche project was harsh HAHAHA
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Hasn't kept me from enjoying anything.

Honestly, the "finer things" have kept me from enjoying cars, actually. I do plenty of other stuff, I go out to eat all the time, I've been all over the world, but I never feel like I have enough car/bike shit done. I'm always compromising the car/bike stuff to do other things.

Part of it is that I generally require my car hobby to be a break-even proposition, more or less. If you buy pre-modded cars and lots of used (but nice) parts, you can sell them for as much or more than you paid, so you don't ever really "spend" any money, you just tie money up and you can always get it back.

This means I'll never go buy a brand new Z34 and mod the shit out of it, but I don't need to. I'm happy playing with older cars and I do it to enjoy myself, not impress a bunch of kids. I'm 28, I've got a good job, and I'm pretty conservative with my money, which is probably why I never drive anything truly baller, because while I can afford it, I just can't justify doing it.
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You just have to learn to be patient and budget. Ive been a broke ass college student for 4 years but I still find the money and time to travel the world and mod my 2 240s(even though neither of them run right now lol. But that will change after my tax refund). But I also dont blow money on clothes and eat out all the time. Just gotta set your priorities

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i cant think of anything the car hobby has kept me from doing. i mean i could spend a week in vegas and blow 3000$ and at the end of the week come home with nothing but a good memory... or buy something tangible like a 2000$ exedy triple disc and a 1300$ power fc djetro... something that i can enjoy every day for as long as i wish...

if you want to do things and the car stops you from doing them, that is pretty sad - the trick is to unjustify those things

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i cant think of anything the car hobby has kept me from doing. i mean i could spend a week in vegas and blow 3000$ and at the end of the week come home with nothing but a good memory..
Dude, a $3000 weekend in Vegas!!
That would be something to write Maxim magazine about!!!
and remember, your supposed to bring friends along that are your really tight and life long homies because you have a bond since you didnt miss out on all the "finer things" and "going out"


I think there is 2 schools in this thread.
And only one is posting.

I think all us guys over 25,26 have figured it out.
We seem to be able to balance.
we have cars in garages that are hobbies, or kids or houses.

We havent had much response from the younger guys that are actually missing out on their lives because of these cars.
Cause as we know. once your older, you dont go out much, but with the wife/wife and kids, and maybe a once a month outing with the boys.
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Dude, a $3000 weekend in Vegas!!
That would be something to write Maxim magazine about!!!
and remember, your supposed to bring friends along that are your really tight and life long homies because you have a bond since you didnt miss out on all the "finer things" and "going out"


I think there is 2 schools in this thread.
And only one is posting.

I think all us guys over 25,26 have figured it out.
We seem to be able to balance.
we have cars in garages that are hobbies, or kids or houses.

We havent had much response from the younger guys that are actually missing out on their lives because of these cars.
Cause as we know. once your older, you dont go out much, but with the wife/wife and kids, and maybe a once a month outing with the boys.
lol. 3k is nothing. Had a buddy go to Vegas and nearly spent 50k after a big settlement. I just don't think Maxim would take kindly to it being spent on hookers and all night gambling while on blow.
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Ive met way to many old guys that were 100% about cars, and now are a little sour, have little friends, failed relationships (or still chasing that one), and they have a hard time comunicating and working with others.
why do i see myself being one of those guys?
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lol. 3k is nothing. Had a buddy go to Vegas and nearly spent 50k after a big settlement. I just don't think Maxim would take kindly to it being spent on hookers and all night gambling while on blow.
Actually, they love that shit.
They just cant print it, lol!!
Cocaine plus viagra and hours of cardio sounds like a recipe for a heart attack!! lol

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why do i see myself being one of those guys?
Because the all night drinking binge I took you on at the illegally open Thia bar/gambling restraunt was probably the only "living it up" you have done in awhile.
Get out and have some fun man, fuck cars.
They are fun toys, but when you are dying in the hospital at 88.
You wanna look back and go,
"Man, im glad I saved that extra few months for SPL instead of god speed"
and
"Im glad I passed up on going out with my friends for 6 month when I was 23, cause i was able to get Dmax all around and dimples on that irrelevant car that i sold when i was 37."

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Im in college right now so my car is on hold completely i would say.
I worked a lot in high school because i pay for everything on the car including the car itself but still went out and did things. I've made a lot of memories going to meet with my big group of car friends.
Sometimes i don't want to work on the car at all, but then other times working on it or going for a drive is a nice way to get away from things for a day.
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Dude, a $3000 weekend in Vegas!!
That would be something to write Maxim magazine about!!!
and remember, your supposed to bring friends along that are your really tight and life long homies because you have a bond since you didnt miss out on all the "finer things" and "going out"


I think there is 2 schools in this thread.
And only one is posting.

I think all us guys over 25,26 have figured it out.
We seem to be able to balance.
we have cars in garages that are hobbies, or kids or houses.

We havent had much response from the younger guys that are actually missing out on their lives because of these cars.
Cause as we know. once your older, you dont go out much, but with the wife/wife and kids, and maybe a once a month outing with the boys.
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Hasn't kept me from enjoying anything.

Honestly, the "finer things" have kept me from enjoying cars, actually. I do plenty of other stuff, I go out to eat all the time, I've been all over the world, but I never feel like I have enough car/bike shit done. I'm always compromising the car/bike stuff to do other things.

Part of it is that I generally require my car hobby to be a break-even proposition, more or less. If you buy pre-modded cars and lots of used (but nice) parts, you can sell them for as much or more than you paid, so you don't ever really "spend" any money, you just tie money up and you can always get it back.

This means I'll never go buy a brand new Z34 and mod the shit out of it, but I don't need to. I'm happy playing with older cars and I do it to enjoy myself, not impress a bunch of kids. I'm 28, I've got a good job, and I'm pretty conservative with my money, which is probably why I never drive anything truly baller, because while I can afford it, I just can't justify doing it.
both posts I can relate with a lot.
imo, a lot of the younger guys haven't seen enough to appreciate the other joys of life.
it's also hard for some to venture out & try something new.

I don't necc agree with the notion of refusing to buy a new car though.
depending on your budget, it may cost more or less the same to mod an old junker.
Looking back things, I wish I would stick with a newer car & call it a day.
I just get a car that I'm happy enough, that I don't need to throw a lot of parts into it.
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Yes and No. ive experienced some great things by having the car i do, yet, cant even dress all nice like most people cuz im so broke dumping money into my car. with that being said, i believe its time for me to focus on education and put my car on hold for a long while.
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Yeah ive spent a shit ton on cars ive had but still manage to take vacations once a year. Clothes and eating out are kinda not important to me. Dont get me wrong I dont get my clothes from wal*mart (other than my Dickies) but i dont buy any t shirt that over $20 and dont spend any more than $50 on a pair of jeans.
im pretty much in the same boat, i dont buy the "latest Fashion" BS...fuck ed harty shirts, fuck ur tap out BS...gimme 5 shirts for 20 bucks from Nike or 3 collard shirts for 20 any day...

i think the last time i bought a shirt that wasnt one of the nike deals was my 3 jimmy up shirts, and thats to help a bud out doing something right with his life...

and mind you i only have 2 pairs of jeans a year, 1 pair of fancy pants for occasions that call for it... i dont need 27 pairs of shoes...all i need is a pair of dress shoes, my sneakers, my work boots, and i use my old beat up sneakers to work on my car...i have 2 pair of shorts...thats all i need...

but people confuse all the fucking time wants vs needs...hence the situations they end up being in...

i knew what i wanted, so i did what i had to do to get there...simple

as far as eating, i buy groceries and eat at home, get stuffed and pay less, and i make it to how i like it, and no worries of spit from an uptight cook who doesnt like the way i order my food...

now dont get me wrong i do go out, but only on saturday, friday if the day feels like its right...but usually its to a buddies house to enjoy a couple rounds of beer pong, food, T.V. and a pit fire which is dope...
sundays is a no no since i dont wanna have issues waking up for work...thats my rule...during the week, i cannot go out, after work, i dont have the energy for that shit...

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I do got to admit that doubt does pass my mind, when I could have it saved up towards a comfortable life or at least a savings. I cant even begin to tell you how I put my self down on necessities in the past because of my car. I have a father and brother that will scrutinize me to death about my car, my parts and my $900.00+ rims, explaining the whole hobby is not easy either. Then again I could easy argue that we all have our vices in life, may it be women, sports, drugs, clothing, music, gambling, real estate, children etc.
the only vices in my life are family, bills, friends, car...in that order, family comes first, bills need to get payed, my friends nor family pay for my shit, nor would i ask...and the cars are last thing on my mind, i love to mess with em, but ive long come to a conclusion that its not gonna be my life, its just a hobby...

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wow, yeah i kinda had, I missed Winter Formal To buy the Holset and Nistune for my old S13, and Missed Prom For Clutch Flywheel INjectors and Tuning. haha didn;t buy a year book saving up for parts. so all my HS memories are just in my head.

and now well its not as bad but i do find myself often staying at home playing video games or watching Blu-Rays/ DVD's because i just bought something for my Car that i didn't really need but was going to be nice. I'm in it 7 years deep we'll see if in 3 years im still into it.
i admit i did that...once, other times i stayed home was because i took care of fam bam and bills right after, and only had enough for gas for the upcoming week...

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Some of these post man.
No wonder the car scene is full of socially akward people that really struggle to carry relationships with women.
not everyone, but im pretty sue, you all know what i mean.
so fucking true...usually when you go to a meet...most guys, if ur not talking about cars, they have nothing to say, if they see a chick, they dont know how to act...

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and "going out" doesnt mean "clubing"
It means getting out the house.
hiking, traveling, going to a movie, a play, shopping,weekend vacation, dinner and drinks with the girl or friends.
Alot of you are passing this stuff up.
This stuff is life.
Your car is an inadament object.
Put life forwards and keep the car a hobby.
dude, if i passed on just half the shit i've experience due to the above mentioned things...i would have hated my life so much at this point...

experiences and choices are what makes us, us...


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dousan seems to do it fine.
I do it fine.
Its a car people,
man, this is SO sad.
these people are just as bad as world of warcraft people.
i shed these tears for all of you
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BTW, i saw Wicked last year and it was fucking awesome!
i need to get some money together and take my girl to a play/musical soon.
i should have given you my PeeWee herman tickets >_<*


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Because the all night drinking binge I took you on at the illegally open Thia bar/gambling restraunt was probably the only "living it up" you have done in awhile.
aww yeah, the day he left his car in my driveway...driving hungover back to Perris...GENIOUS!


LOL...i know said bar place now...

though he did come out to Teddy's...

that weekend and this past weekend in Ktown have made 2010 dope...lol
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Get out and have some fun man, fuck cars.
They are fun toys, but when you are dying in the hospital at 88.
You wanna look back and go,
"Man, im glad I saved that extra few months for SPL instead of god speed"
and
"Im glad I passed up on going out with my friends for 6 month when I was 23, cause i was able to get Dmax all around and dimples on that irrelevant car that i sold when i was 37."

lol

So Eric when you are the hospital dying you could ask yourself

"Man why did I waste so much time drifting, I never became pro" or
"Why did I spend my free time helping people with drifting when they just ended up stabbing me in the back" (you know who these "people" are).


IMO we will always change opinions in the future, we should do whatever makes us happy now whether that be building a nice car or having good driving skills.
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So guys in the past few years Ive noticed that with increases in salary comes more brand name parts. I look back at my credit card statements and all my parts reciepts plus the titles to 4 of my 240's and not to mention my 2 family cars...Simply just awe shocking once you tally up the costs and time it takes in life to enjoy our hobbies.

I mean some of us on here work for 2 weeks or longer depending on rate of pay just to save up the money for tires and the entree fee for an event. Im almost 30 and still, I do not see an end to this obsession. I constantly dream of setups better or rarer than previous setups. How many of you guys here have skipped on going out, skipped on going clothes shopping or heck even skipped out on vacations just so you can save the money to get 1 step closer to completing projects which are never ever truly complete.

Whats worse is that I cant even enjoy stock cars anymore. It doesnt matter what kind of car it is, I will mod the car. First it starts with wheels and suspension, then bolt ons, and then I have another garage queen I can no longer drive. Thus why I've quit financing cars for myself. Is this hobby as addicting as sex? I mean really if I had invested 20k in ford last year instead of a measly 4k I would have made almost 6 figures in my return. But I chose to put that extra cash into car parts and other vehicle accesories or even tools.

Sorry for the long rant, but Im sure someone else on this board feels the way I do.... addicted-
This is the story of my life and I'm only 19. Sometimes I feel like I miss out on a lot of shit because I'm only really thinking about one thing. lol I still love it and wouldnt have it any other way.
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So Eric when you are the hospital dying you could ask yourself

"Man why did I waste so much time drifting, I never became pro" or
"Why did I spend my free time helping people with drifting when they just ended up stabbing me in the back" (you know who these "people" are).
LOL, my life story to this point is more then most people ever live in a lifetime, lol.
You can ask me all about it at the BBQ or the 2010 meet
And who wants to go pro?
I wanna win an Oscar and shoot photos for National Geographic.
Then once i am in a position of influence, help to change the world to a more positive place for humanity.
(as you can see my goals in life and all my energy and money goes into something i feel is bigger than "the best car parts")

And as far as drifting, I always give back from what i take. Some people don't do the same, but you see how life is for them.
Me, I have so much support given back to me because of how much i give into it.
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LOL, my life story to this point is more then most people ever live in a lifetime, lol.
You can ask me all about it at the BBQ or the 2010 meet
And who wants to go pro?
I wanna win an Oscar and shoot photos for National Geographic.
Then once i am in a position of influence, help to change the world to a more positive place for humanity.
(as you can see my goals in life and all my energy and money goes into something i feel is bigger than "the best car parts")

And as far as drifting, I always give back from what i take. Some people don't do the same, but you see how life is for them.
Me, I have so much support given back to me because of how much i give into it.
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I see, I think we will have alot to talk about when we meet.
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I've yet to buy a new car which made me happy out of the box, this list includes 03 cobra, tt 350z and other expensive so called sports cars. Putting 20 to 30k into a custom is so much more rewarding when it comes to the driving experience.

But lately I've been eye balling some vacation packages to purchase this year. Which means I probably won't be doing any nodding this year. Some years you need a break while others you go all out with no comprises. I'm very much an extremest so when my family goes on vacation it costs more than 2 brand new sets of volk te37's in chrome. I love long vacations. My wife never complains which is another problem because it gives me full reign to go car nuts some years. I mean I still build on a budget but maybe I can tone the budget down. Or maybe I can find a way to enjoy spray painted Cars on sport max's. Well I guess I'll never resort to that. I guess I can just be thankful to have a job which supports me and my hobby. But if I didn't have it I wouldn't have to work all the hours...... Haha
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