How to - R33 cluster into S13 with RB25 - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Paulpen · 04-19-2008, 06:47 AM

Well here goes - ive done all this from scratch with wiring diagrams and following wires and circuit boards so may not be 100% but at lease we have an idea and a place to put all the info.

Ill still advise getting asmany wiring diagrams as you can though as this aint gonna be 100% and is done for a UK car that had a CA as standard.

All this is from my original notes and I know ive fiddled with one or 2 wires but cant remember what.

This is how ive gone about labeling the wires and connectors.

Connectors are done A -> C going left to right as you look at the back of the cluster.

Wires are numbered top left -> top right and bottom left -> bottom right. This is also done from looking at the speedo from the back (aka looking from the wiring side nto the cluster side).

No number = no wire

S13 CLUSTER WIRING :
A1 TM
A2 Chg
A3 Ground
A4 No wire
A5 Batt
A6 Door
A7 Ign
A8 Brk (diff)
A9 Oil
A10 Brk (handbrake)

B1 HICAS
B2 Ill+
B3 Tam
B4 Beam
B5 Beam
B6 T/R
B7
B8 Ill+
B9 Jap writing
B10 10K
B11 T/L
B12 Ground

C1 Jap writing
C2 2P
C3 Ill-
C4 Fuel
C5 FM
C6 ALB
C7 Main beam
C8 Main beam
C9 PWR
C10 Exh

Now the R33 one

A1 Engine light
A2 Door
A4 Ground
A5 R/T
A6 Main beam
A7 Seat belt
A8 Oil
A9 Ign
A10 Exh
A11 Chg
A12 T/L

B1 Ill-
B2 Tam
B3 Jap writing
B4 2P
B5 Speedo -
B6 BM-
B7 Ill+
B10 Ground
B11 OM (oil)
B12 BM+

C1 Brk
C3 Fuel
C5 Ill-
C6 FM
C7 HICAS
C9 TM
C10 Ill+

So due to all this this is how you join them up
S13 car ------------------- R33 cluster

A1-C9
A2-A11
A3-A4,B1,B10,B12
A6-A2
A7-A9
A9-A8
A10-C1

B1-C7
B2-C10
B3-B2
B6-A5
B8-B7
B9-B5
B11-A12

C1-B3
C2-B4
C3-C5
C4-C3
C5-C6
C7-A4
C8-A6

Feel free to update, slag off etc :wack:

Neejay · 06-01-2008, 05:15 PM

How is the fitment? Any pictures?

BoostedCoupe · 06-01-2008, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neejay

How is the fitment? Any pictures?

local guys

Neejay · 06-02-2008, 06:40 AM

hmm...looks like it fits better than I thought. Have you seen it up close? did you take that pic?

Paulpen · 06-02-2008, 11:02 AM

Ill get some pics if I can as finished fettling with it now

Neejay · 06-02-2008, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulpen

Ill get some pics if I can as finished fettling with it now

that would be great!!

HS13KLS · 06-06-2008, 01:22 PM

UPDATE now!!
lol
i wanted to see pictures
(the in car view)like better pictures of fitment

Neejay · 06-06-2008, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HS13KLS

UPDATE now!!
lol
i wanted to see pictures
(the in car view)like better pictures of fitment

Same here, that's what I'm looking for.

BoostedCoupe · 06-06-2008, 11:19 PM

I didnt take the pic. I did see it in person and it fits ok i gusse. you can still see all of the gauges fine.

Sir · 06-08-2008, 01:08 PM

thanks for the info, you just saved me some time going through the manual

BoostedCoupe · 06-08-2008, 07:44 PM

here is a better pic. its not the same car nor did i take this pic

Ratchet · 06-09-2008, 01:56 AM

that cluster looks sweet .
that steering wheel looks HUUGE .

nice tho .

usmcgetsome · 03-27-2016, 09:39 PM

MATCHED UP from the FSM 240SX S13 instrument cluster manual to this setup. Here's my results but i have not depinned and installed yet. Doing my best to gather more data for the R33 instrument cluster which I have not found yet
TERMINAL SIDE LOOKING AT CLUSTER

COLOR/COLOR/DOT-DASH UNLESS STATED COLOR/DOT-DASH

S13 CLUSTER LEFT TO RIGHT LOOKING AT CLUSTER AS IN ABOVE POST
WRITE-UP SERVICE MANUAL
A1 TM A26 BLK/BLU TEMP GAUGE
A2 CHG A27 WHT/RD/SLV CHARGE
A3 GROUND A28 BLK/SLV DOT CLOCK
A4 NONE X NONE
A5 BAT A30 RD/BLK/SLV CLOCK
A6 DOOR A25 RD/WHT DOOR
A7 IGN A24 GRN/SLV DOT SPEEDO
A8 BRK(DIFF) A23 YLW/GRN/SLV SEAT BELT
A9 OIL A22 YLW/WHT/SLV OIL
A10 BRK(HND) A21 YLW/PURP/SLV BRAKE

B1 HICAS B15 BLK/SLV DOT TURN R/H
B2 ILL+ B14 GRN/BLK/SLV DOT TURN L/H
B3 TAM B13 X NONE
B4 BEAM B12 YLW/BLK/SLV SPEEDO
B5 BEAM B11 RD/BLU/SLV ILLUM
B6 T/R X NONE
B7 BLANK B16 GRN/YLW TURN R/H
B8 ILL+ B17 RD/GRN/SLV HIGH BEAM
B9 JAP WR B18 PNK/BLK/SLV HIGH BEAM
B10 10K B19 YLW/RD TACH
B11 T/L B20 BLU ILLUM
B12 GRND X NONE

C1 JAP WR C6 YLW/BLU SPEEDO
C2 2P C7 YL/GRN SPEEDO
C3 ILL- C8 RD/YLW/SLV ILL
C4 FUEL C9 RD/BLK/SLV FUEL
C5 FM C10 ORN/BLU/SLV FUEL GAUGE
C6 ALB C5 RD/SLV DOT ENGINE CHECK
C7 MAIN BEAM C4 BLK /SLV DOT CRUISE
C8 MAIN BEAM C3 GRN/WHT CRUISE
C9 PWR C2 BLK/RD/SLV ANTI-LOCK
C10 EXH C1 RD/BLU/SLV WASHER

R33 CLUSTER
WIRE: PLUG LOCATION
GROUND X 4 BLACK/SLV 1/2/3
2P YLW/GRN/SLV 2
IGN GRN/BLU/SLV 1
FM GRY/RD/SLV 3
CHG WHT/RD/SLV 1
T/R GRN/YLW/SLV 1
T/L GRN/BLK/SLV 1
TM BLU/BLK/SLV 3
BRK YLW/BLK/SLV 3
FUEL LT GRN/SLV 3
BEAM RD/GRN/SLV 1
TAM YLW/BLU/SLV 2
BELT WHT/BLU/SLV 1
OIL YLW/WHT/SLV 1
AIRBAG?
DOOR RD/ X2 SLV 1
CHK ENG RD/WHT/X2 SLV 1
ILL+ RD/BLU/SLV 2/3
ILL- BLK/SLV DOT 2/3
EXH ORN/WHT/SLV ?
OM LT BLU/SLV DOT ?
WASH RD/BLU/SLV ?

usmcgetsome · 03-27-2016, 09:49 PM

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...On240SXS-1.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...T%20UPDATE.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...s14_wiring.jpg

references used.
Zilvians. I'm aware this is not a complete write up. Lets develop this together The best way to wrap up and confirm is for anyone that has already done the swap just pull your cluster and take pics of your wiring plugs we can all match up the wiring and color codes and keep developing this to make a complete swap.

usmcgetsome · 03-28-2016, 10:51 AM

RB PLUG completed pin out color coded
RB PLUGS
LEFT TOP WHITE PLUG(A)
A1 ENGINE LT RD/WHT/SLVX2 AF10
A2 DOOR AJAR RD/SLVX2 MJ21
A3 AIRBAG BLK/BLU/SLV P521
A4 GROUND BLK/SLV DOT MHE2
A5 RIGHT TURN GRN/YLW/SLV LB16
A6 HIGH BEAM RD/GRN/SLV LA10
A7 SEAT BELT WHT/BLU/SLV P533
A8 OIL LT YLW/SLV DOT X2 NP01
A9 IGN & 12+ GRN/SLV DOT X2 MJ01
A10 EXHAUST LT ORN/WHT/SLV X2 NVO1
A11 CHARGE LT WHT/RD/SLV NM01
A12 LEFT TURN GRN/BLK/SLV LB15

LEFT BOTTOM BLACK PLUG(B)
B13 ILL- RD/BLU/SLVX2 MA19
B14 TACH GAUGE NONE C552
B15 VSS NONE C550
B16 2P/VSS BLK/SLVX2 MAE1
B17 SPEEDO GAUGE LT BLU/SLV DOT M001
B18 BOOST - WHT/GRN/SLV MA24
B19 ILL+ BLK/SLV DOT MAE3
B20 4WD GRY/RD/SLVX2 MF01
B21 SLIP YLW/BLU/SLV MA15
B22 VSS YLW/GRN/SLVX2 MJO4
B23 OIL GAUGE YLW/PUR/SLVX2 MA17
B24 BOOST+ RD/BLK/SLV MA18

RIGHT BLACK PLUG (C)
C25 ILL- RD/BLU/SLV MA25
C26 TEMP GAUGE BLU/BLK/SLV MA26
C27 NA
C28 HICAS GRN/WHT/SLVX2 CQ26
C29 FUEL GAUGE GRY/RD/SLVX2 NBO1
C30 ILL+ BLK/SLV DOT MAE2
C31 NA
C32 FUEL LT LT GRN/SLVX2 NNO2
C33 ABS NONE C516
C34 BRAKE LT YLW/BLK/SLV NB01

usmcgetsome · 03-28-2016, 11:01 AM

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...IORCLUSTER.jpg

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...er%20PLUGS.jpg

04-19-2008, 06:47 AM	#1
Paulpen Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Age: 37 Posts: 55 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How to - R33 cluster into S13 with RB25 Well here goes - ive done all this from scratch with wiring diagrams and following wires and circuit boards so may not be 100% but at lease we have an idea and a place to put all the info. Ill still advise getting asmany wiring diagrams as you can though as this aint gonna be 100% and is done for a UK car that had a CA as standard. All this is from my original notes and I know ive fiddled with one or 2 wires but cant remember what. This is how ive gone about labeling the wires and connectors. Connectors are done A -> C going left to right as you look at the back of the cluster. Wires are numbered top left -> top right and bottom left -> bottom right. This is also done from looking at the speedo from the back (aka looking from the wiring side nto the cluster side). No number = no wire S13 CLUSTER WIRING : A1 TM A2 Chg A3 Ground A4 No wire A5 Batt A6 Door A7 Ign A8 Brk (diff) A9 Oil A10 Brk (handbrake) B1 HICAS B2 Ill+ B3 Tam B4 Beam B5 Beam B6 T/R B7 B8 Ill+ B9 Jap writing B10 10K B11 T/L B12 Ground C1 Jap writing C2 2P C3 Ill- C4 Fuel C5 FM C6 ALB C7 Main beam C8 Main beam C9 PWR C10 Exh Now the R33 one A1 Engine light A2 Door A4 Ground A5 R/T A6 Main beam A7 Seat belt A8 Oil A9 Ign A10 Exh A11 Chg A12 T/L B1 Ill- B2 Tam B3 Jap writing B4 2P B5 Speedo - B6 BM- B7 Ill+ B10 Ground B11 OM (oil) B12 BM+ C1 Brk C3 Fuel C5 Ill- C6 FM C7 HICAS C9 TM C10 Ill+ So due to all this this is how you join them up S13 car ------------------- R33 cluster A1-C9 A2-A11 A3-A4,B1,B10,B12 A6-A2 A7-A9 A9-A8 A10-C1 B1-C7 B2-C10 B3-B2 B6-A5 B8-B7 B9-B5 B11-A12 C1-B3 C2-B4 C3-C5 C4-C3 C5-C6 C7-A4 C8-A6 Feel free to update, slag off etc :wack:

06-06-2008, 11:19 PM	#9
BoostedCoupe Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Fulton, TN Age: 31 Posts: 1,043 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I didnt take the pic. I did see it in person and it fits ok i gusse. you can still see all of the gauges fine. __________________ 92 vert converted 5speed and other little things

06-08-2008, 07:44 PM	#11
BoostedCoupe Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Fulton, TN Age: 31 Posts: 1,043 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	here is a better pic. its not the same car nor did i take this pic __________________ 92 vert converted 5speed and other little things

06-09-2008, 01:56 AM	#12
Ratchet Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SoCal Age: 32 Posts: 77 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that cluster looks sweet . that steering wheel looks HUUGE . nice tho . __________________ my car dont work

03-27-2016, 09:39 PM	#13
usmcgetsome Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San antonio Age: 42 Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Back from the dead! Update! MATCHED UP from the FSM 240SX S13 instrument cluster manual to this setup. Here's my results but i have not depinned and installed yet. Doing my best to gather more data for the R33 instrument cluster which I have not found yet TERMINAL SIDE LOOKING AT CLUSTER COLOR/COLOR/DOT-DASH UNLESS STATED COLOR/DOT-DASH S13 CLUSTER LEFT TO RIGHT LOOKING AT CLUSTER AS IN ABOVE POST WRITE-UP SERVICE MANUAL A1 TM A26 BLK/BLU TEMP GAUGE A2 CHG A27 WHT/RD/SLV CHARGE A3 GROUND A28 BLK/SLV DOT CLOCK A4 NONE X NONE A5 BAT A30 RD/BLK/SLV CLOCK A6 DOOR A25 RD/WHT DOOR A7 IGN A24 GRN/SLV DOT SPEEDO A8 BRK(DIFF) A23 YLW/GRN/SLV SEAT BELT A9 OIL A22 YLW/WHT/SLV OIL A10 BRK(HND) A21 YLW/PURP/SLV BRAKE B1 HICAS B15 BLK/SLV DOT TURN R/H B2 ILL+ B14 GRN/BLK/SLV DOT TURN L/H B3 TAM B13 X NONE B4 BEAM B12 YLW/BLK/SLV SPEEDO B5 BEAM B11 RD/BLU/SLV ILLUM B6 T/R X NONE B7 BLANK B16 GRN/YLW TURN R/H B8 ILL+ B17 RD/GRN/SLV HIGH BEAM B9 JAP WR B18 PNK/BLK/SLV HIGH BEAM B10 10K B19 YLW/RD TACH B11 T/L B20 BLU ILLUM B12 GRND X NONE C1 JAP WR C6 YLW/BLU SPEEDO C2 2P C7 YL/GRN SPEEDO C3 ILL- C8 RD/YLW/SLV ILL C4 FUEL C9 RD/BLK/SLV FUEL C5 FM C10 ORN/BLU/SLV FUEL GAUGE C6 ALB C5 RD/SLV DOT ENGINE CHECK C7 MAIN BEAM C4 BLK /SLV DOT CRUISE C8 MAIN BEAM C3 GRN/WHT CRUISE C9 PWR C2 BLK/RD/SLV ANTI-LOCK C10 EXH C1 RD/BLU/SLV WASHER R33 CLUSTER WIRE: PLUG LOCATION GROUND X 4 BLACK/SLV 1/2/3 2P YLW/GRN/SLV 2 IGN GRN/BLU/SLV 1 FM GRY/RD/SLV 3 CHG WHT/RD/SLV 1 T/R GRN/YLW/SLV 1 T/L GRN/BLK/SLV 1 TM BLU/BLK/SLV 3 BRK YLW/BLK/SLV 3 FUEL LT GRN/SLV 3 BEAM RD/GRN/SLV 1 TAM YLW/BLU/SLV 2 BELT WHT/BLU/SLV 1 OIL YLW/WHT/SLV 1 AIRBAG? DOOR RD/ X2 SLV 1 CHK ENG RD/WHT/X2 SLV 1 ILL+ RD/BLU/SLV 2/3 ILL- BLK/SLV DOT 2/3 EXH ORN/WHT/SLV ? OM LT BLU/SLV DOT ? WASH RD/BLU/SLV ?

06-01-2008, 05:15 PM	#2
Neejay Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: lol Age: 35 Posts: 2,586 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Neejay Feedback Score: 2 reviews	How is the fitment? Any pictures?

06-02-2008, 06:40 AM	#4
Neejay Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: lol Age: 35 Posts: 2,586 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: Neejay Feedback Score: 2 reviews	hmm...looks like it fits better than I thought. Have you seen it up close? did you take that pic?

06-02-2008, 11:02 AM	#5
Paulpen Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: England Age: 37 Posts: 55 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ill get some pics if I can as finished fettling with it now

06-06-2008, 01:22 PM	#7
HS13KLS Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Illinois/California Age: 32 Posts: 1,114 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	UPDATE now!! lol i wanted to see pictures (the in car view)like better pictures of fitment

03-27-2016, 09:49 PM	#14
usmcgetsome Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San antonio Age: 42 Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...On240SXS-1.jpg http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...T%20UPDATE.jpg http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...s14_wiring.jpg references used. Zilvians. I'm aware this is not a complete write up. Lets develop this together The best way to wrap up and confirm is for anyone that has already done the swap just pull your cluster and take pics of your wiring plugs we can all match up the wiring and color codes and keep developing this to make a complete swap.

03-28-2016, 10:51 AM	#15
usmcgetsome Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San antonio Age: 42 Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	RB PLUG completed pin out color coded RB PLUGS LEFT TOP WHITE PLUG(A) A1 ENGINE LT RD/WHT/SLVX2 AF10 A2 DOOR AJAR RD/SLVX2 MJ21 A3 AIRBAG BLK/BLU/SLV P521 A4 GROUND BLK/SLV DOT MHE2 A5 RIGHT TURN GRN/YLW/SLV LB16 A6 HIGH BEAM RD/GRN/SLV LA10 A7 SEAT BELT WHT/BLU/SLV P533 A8 OIL LT YLW/SLV DOT X2 NP01 A9 IGN & 12+ GRN/SLV DOT X2 MJ01 A10 EXHAUST LT ORN/WHT/SLV X2 NVO1 A11 CHARGE LT WHT/RD/SLV NM01 A12 LEFT TURN GRN/BLK/SLV LB15 LEFT BOTTOM BLACK PLUG(B) B13 ILL- RD/BLU/SLVX2 MA19 B14 TACH GAUGE NONE C552 B15 VSS NONE C550 B16 2P/VSS BLK/SLVX2 MAE1 B17 SPEEDO GAUGE LT BLU/SLV DOT M001 B18 BOOST - WHT/GRN/SLV MA24 B19 ILL+ BLK/SLV DOT MAE3 B20 4WD GRY/RD/SLVX2 MF01 B21 SLIP YLW/BLU/SLV MA15 B22 VSS YLW/GRN/SLVX2 MJO4 B23 OIL GAUGE YLW/PUR/SLVX2 MA17 B24 BOOST+ RD/BLK/SLV MA18 RIGHT BLACK PLUG (C) C25 ILL- RD/BLU/SLV MA25 C26 TEMP GAUGE BLU/BLK/SLV MA26 C27 NA C28 HICAS GRN/WHT/SLVX2 CQ26 C29 FUEL GAUGE GRY/RD/SLVX2 NBO1 C30 ILL+ BLK/SLV DOT MAE2 C31 NA C32 FUEL LT LT GRN/SLVX2 NNO2 C33 ABS NONE C516 C34 BRAKE LT YLW/BLK/SLV NB01

03-28-2016, 11:01 AM	#16
usmcgetsome Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San antonio Age: 42 Posts: 60 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...IORCLUSTER.jpg http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...er%20PLUGS.jpg

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