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03-19-2005, 09:42 PM | #188 |
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The guys running this event were trying, but they didnt give it too much thought. They are used to running auto-x . There was way too much dead time on the track between stupid parade laps and grid loading and unloading and the first 3 courses were poo . I think after the lunch break the day really picked up and i started enjoying myself. I was really close to just loading my car on the trailer and taking off around 11 am. Of course kudos to scca for trying to bring drifting into norcal, BUT i dont want to see drifting turn into auto-x, ie: people just settle for minimal track time because they think that's the only way. It's not..demand better events with less people.
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03-19-2005, 10:12 PM | #189 |
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03-19-2005, 10:48 PM | #190 |
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Let me just say Good Job to Jeff and Bau promoting the event. I thank you guys for this. I know that it was off you guys hand doing the registration and running the events.
This event was the worse drift event I have ever been to. Having 81 people on the grid was just insane. I had about 16 runs thru out the day. Having to wait for two hours just to get another 4 laps was just a mess. Even when taking your 4 laps it would take 30 minutes waiting on the grid. I expected this since its from SCCA. The best way they know how to set up an event is Auto X style. Will I come back for another event like this? NO. -Al |
03-19-2005, 11:04 PM | #191 | |
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oh well, kudos to SCCA trying....the only thing i enjoyed about this was the neighboring residents of Stockton |
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03-19-2005, 11:17 PM | #192 |
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Thanks for all your work getting this event off the ground -- I had a blast. I do agree with Al on many of his points -- like why bother picking up 1 cone (in the process holding up the line) instead of waiting for 2 or 3 cars to go through? Why not walk the course like an autocross and not screw around with parade laps? Why not move the grid back 20 feet and have people assigned to the same lane all day long?
Even with all that, I'm still impressed with the number of runs we had considering the 81 entrants. Ideally, I'd like to see more seat time on a practice day (you all know I need it ), but you did well with what you had to work with. I also liked not having to work the course, though those poor SCCA guys were working hard running down cones |
03-19-2005, 11:30 PM | #193 |
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The grid loading... I mean come on now. Why can't you block off lane 2/3/4/5 while 1 is running. Instead of having to unload and load the grid. Just have all lanes at the same spot. DON'T WASTE 2 HOURS UNLOADING AND LOADING THE STUPID GRID.
That was just the stupidest idea evar. I learn a lot from this event, DO NOT RUN 81 PEOPLE. DO NOT RUN 5 LANES. -Al |
03-19-2005, 11:36 PM | #194 | |
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03-20-2005, 04:55 PM | #195 | |
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yes those guys have been autox'ing for 30+ years. drifting is new to them. drifting to them is coming in too hot in a turn and getting your tail out a bit. Maybe if we show them some option videos, some drift tengoku's or battle magazines etc, they can setup real drift configuration. for their first event it seemed to be pretty good though. As you know in autox'ing you have to go work. I didn't see anyone working. 4 people working the track at once. what do you expect from a parking lot course. They have a lot of newbies there and SCCA has the experience to know that if you rush things, people can get hurt. i got some pictures too. http://www.sromagazine.com/events/th...bum=285&page=1 I posted in a different thread but didn't see this one until now. |
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03-20-2005, 06:42 PM | #196 |
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everything like the other ppl said above. I was asking if I can manji in some of the lanes, they said ya as long as you keep it between the cones. Then I look at narrow ass lanes. I am like, "oh forget it."
Should have had 3 courses and a schedule and let the ppl handle the rest by themselves. Like Drift day events. If they don't make it to the lines, too bad. Instead they gonna hve to yell in the speaker for driver not in his car. Also you can't do any car work in the lines. Well you don't really need to change tires with taht little seat time but still... I saw ppl with smoking engine trying to fix it in the lines. Ask ppl how DD did their events and run it DD style. I believe they are trying hard thou. Very nice guys. It's their first time hosting the event. Yep the last course was stupid as fuck. It's a fuckign sweeper with like 10yards to gain speed... It's possible to carry a drift with a powerful car but come on most of the car there don't have over 150 whp... Edit: anyone got pics or video footage of the white s14 zenki with the black vented CF hood and black front bumper with a fucked up front lip? Send them to my e-mail plz [email protected] thanks a bunch.
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03-20-2005, 06:57 PM | #197 |
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I thought over all there was to much down time for the event, but it was their first time with this and they really had no idea. They didn't even know to bring in more bathrooms and a big catoring truck for god sake!!! But dispite all that i thought there was a great turn out which will show them that there could be a good turn out everytime they hold one there. This was a trial for them and i think they are willing to learn and make things better for us. That place is so big that we could have just done two big courses and no little dought area! Anyway, great job to Jeff for getting them to try it out and lets cross our fingers that they want to keep it up.
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03-20-2005, 07:06 PM | #198 |
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yes the donut course was the lamest thing i have seen...
hopefully we can have more experienced people design the course, possible a person we can all email and give suggestions.... There was an actual bathroom, just no TRASHCANS! also i think security should be more strict on letting people in.....during the course of the day random people from the area just came through, checking what was going on, and LINING UP ON THE GRID! WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF....I'm mainly talking about the Green Acura TL there were quite a few people who werent registered entered the event. People were jumping in and out of the grid. Random people not in the event were doing donuts and shit in the "pit" area! And some lame kid with a red s13 fastback and kouki tails was doing donuts in the small lot over.... Good going jerk, great way to give the rest of us a bad reputation, as SCCA keeps all of our INFO on file..... |
03-20-2005, 08:04 PM | #200 | |
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03-21-2005, 12:31 AM | #201 |
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yeh, grid was pretty unorganized... I started in 1b, ran 4 times... went to help my neighbor with his mustang, came back and thot they already regrided my lane, so i followed them on a parade lap and ended up in 2b when they told me i was supposed to be 2 lanes over...
i count about 12min of driving... $75/12 = $6.25/min!?! thats almost as bad at Autox! [$30/3min, in SF Region at least]. Personally, im hoping for more seat time, or occassional track/drift days like Grip n Slip at Thunderhill [cuz going a lot would be too expensive]. That was plenty of seat time ;] *ditto on getting pics/clips of the burgundy s13 coupe wit Riken +0 w/ Azenis in front and zenki teardrops on rear... "ocf.berkekely.edu/~calmo" [cal motorsports club]
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03-21-2005, 10:14 AM | #202 |
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i had fun with the event. i was happy for my friend mark who was a beginner. we were co-driving my brown gts. that skipad was really good for him, too bad they took that out on the later part. im with westbouroughp and truenocoupe~ it was a long wait for 1 driver cars. well, i didnt felt like it cuz we had 2 driver car. jeff told me that 'they' just didnt listen to his ideas to make the event run more smoothly.
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03-21-2005, 11:10 AM | #204 |
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My favorite was the rotund SCCA gentleman who was flagging the start towards the later half of the day who made the following two comments:
"We should set this up like an autox and start timing these guys, I bet we could kick most of their asses in 30 seconds" And my codriver told me about this one: "No wonder we need to keep these guys off the street" Way to get it But I can't thank Jeff and Bau enough for actually getting those guys to do something for Norcal drifting. Next time they just need to let them run the thing. |
03-21-2005, 05:13 PM | #206 | |
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Definately wasn't a huge fan of the overcrowding, small course set-up, and waiting times. NORCAL GUYS: DONT SETTLE FOR THE QUALITY OF THIS EVENT. This event could have been so much better and you guys need to let SCCA know this. Dont complain to them though, give them suggestions. Eventually they will listen. |
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03-21-2005, 06:19 PM | #207 | |
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03-21-2005, 09:25 PM | #208 |
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Thanks to all the peeps that participated, sorry it didn't turned out the way we wanted to. Since, I was amongst one of the drivers that was also waiting forever for a run. I felt both positive and negative sides of the event that everyone experienced. I actually enjoyed the autox more the next day after the drifting event.
Many thanks to Bau, Jack, Ian, Al, Ching and some others who helped teched cars and set up the last course. Look out for future drift events from AL and many others. NOR-CAL will be on the role this year!!!
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