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NWI1405 · 02-08-2016, 03:45 PM

8into1 is the way to go! A few of my buddy's built 8into1 exhaust on their 1400 truck that runs a 418ci LS based motor and it sounds awesome.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w3dEbOC3G_M

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Corbic · 02-08-2016, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NWI1405

8into1 is the way to go! A few of my buddy's built 8into1 exhaust on their 1400 truck that runs a 418ci LS based motor and it sounds awesome.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w3dEbOC3G_M

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My ears. That sounded like an angle grinder....

NWI1405 · 02-09-2016, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Corbic

My ears. That sounded like an angle grinder....

Haha yes it does have that tone a bit.

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offthewall · 02-15-2016, 08:48 PM

Blehh pic - but the ignition coils are going there (fire wall). No REAL reason the mount/move them there. Something that came to mind and thoughts it'll be neat!

StyleUp · 02-15-2016, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by offthewall

Blehh pic - but the ignition coils are going there (fire wall). No REAL reason the mount/move them there. Something that came to mind and thoughts it'll be neat!

Looks cool man! Most people just move the ignition coils to sit on top of the valve cover.

Corbic · 02-15-2016, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by StyleUp

Looks cool man! Most people just move the ignition coils to sit on top of the valve cover.

That's where they are on a stock engine.

The OHV design means you can't put the spark plug dead center, so the plugs are on the side. This also means you can't put coil-on plug. So GM did coil-near-plug.

The further away the plugs, the less efficient the spark.

offthewall · 02-23-2016, 09:11 PM

Did some work to the never ending project. Tackled the fuel today and got it 99% finished. Got some line securing underneath to do and install another fuel filter mount bracket.

* Random underneath shot *

theboy · 02-26-2016, 07:23 PM

How much lower than your frame rails does your trans sit? I'm doing basically the same swap but with ex ASA LS motor instead.

offthewall · 03-11-2016, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by theboy

How much lower than your frame rails does your trans sit? I'm doing basically the same swap but with ex ASA LS motor instead.

I can check and get a accurate measurement.

offthewall · 03-11-2016, 11:56 AM

Couple weeks ago I finished the making of the spark plug wires. MSD offered a pretty nice DIY kit. Got the job done nicely.

Got a nice call from Stainless Headers and ending up placing my header material order! Very excited to get the tubing in and start fabricating!

Next, i'll RE doing where the coolant reservoir and oil filter housing is to make room for the header (5th time doing this lol). In the mix of all this, im getting my lead harness from MegaSquirt and placing my wiring order too. Excited Excited. I hope i'll make it to racing event Gingerman (in South Haven, MI) for the even in July.

If anyone was curious lol, a RPF1 18x9.5 +15 clears a Evo 8 Brembo w/o a spacer. As the Cosmis XT006r's, 18x9.5 +10. I have to run a 25MM spacer.

laextreme5 · 03-11-2016, 01:54 PM

Hmm, thats good to know on the msd diy kit. Do you know of any drawbacks to the spark plug wires bring that long in length, do all the wires have to be the exact same length?

offthewall · 03-11-2016, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by laextreme5

Hmm, thats good to know on the msd diy kit. Do you know of any drawbacks to the spark plug wires bring that long in length, do all the wires have to be the exact same length?

Meh, I don't think plug wire length will play any negative affect on the performance on this engine.

Googled a 2500HP 676CI engine, his spark plug wires are rather long and makes some serious jam. And regardless, I MIGHT brake 400HP on my set up... on a good day.

laextreme5 · 03-11-2016, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by offthewall

Meh, I don't think plug wire length will play any negative affect on the performance on this engine.

Googled a 2500HP 676CI engine, his spark plug wires are rather long and makes some serious jam. And regardless, I MIGHT brake 400HP on my set up... on a good day.

Good to know. What diy kit did you order?

Heywood Jablomie · 03-11-2016, 06:32 PM

You're shooting for 400hp with this? Jesus why not just stay NA if that's all you're looking for?

offthewall · 03-11-2016, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Heywood Jablomie

You're shooting for 400hp with this? Jesus why not just stay NA if that's all you're looking for?

My bad, I decided to stay NA for now. Really want to learn to drive this before I double to HP when it's turbochargered. We'll see though.

offthewall · 03-15-2016, 04:33 PM

YESS!

*TheRealSy90* · 03-15-2016, 04:57 PM

8 into 1 is amazing. Such sound. Are you going to put it in the same area as Ross Petty's S15? Honestly I can't see an 8-1 setup fitting anywhere else haha. Might as well copy his setup, or at least use the pictures of it for reference.

scottie · 03-15-2016, 08:56 PM

Damnit you got your piping before me! We will have to compare designs once complete. Are you using any modeling software or the kit to configure the runners? I've looked into the ice engine works kit but the cost has me on the fence.

Green Arrow · 03-15-2016, 09:35 PM

Not familiar with Pettys set up, where TF will the collector fit?

offthewall · 03-16-2016, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by scottie

Damnit you got your piping before me! We will have to compare designs once complete. Are you using any modeling software or the kit to configure the runners? I've looked into the ice engine works kit but the cost has me on the fence.

No modeling software. Luckily I have some extra pair of hands that are a little more experienced than me to help with this.

*TheRealSy90* · 03-16-2016, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Green Arrow

Not familiar with Pettys set up, where TF will the collector fit?

Here's the only pics I've ever found that show you his 8-1 setup under the car. Dan at Parts Shop Max custom made this setup for Ross. Looks like his collector is next to the transmission just after the crossmember. I don't remember if his S15 was right had driver or not, but it looks like the floor pan has been modified to fit the exhaust a bit.

offthewall · 03-16-2016, 08:31 AM

Yeah, thats all I've found. BUT, I'm not routing mine down underneath like he did.

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offthewall · 03-17-2016, 08:52 AM

Shop Pup!

It's begun!

laextreme5 · 03-17-2016, 09:18 AM

OOhh i cant wait, this gone be gud. Also the s15 shots, it looks like they just placed the collector where the stock cat goes in the hump that is already there. Although in that placement the primaries must be quite long, must make for a very low end torquey power band.

Offthewall. Have you measured for primary lengths and have a length goal in mind? also are you making them all equal length?

offthewall · 03-17-2016, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by laextreme5

OOhh i cant wait, this gone be gud. Also the s15 shots, it looks like they just placed the collector where the stock cat goes in the hump that is already there. Although in that placement the primaries must be quite long, must make for a very low end torquey power band.

Offthewall. Have you measured for primary lengths and have a length goal in mind? also are you making them all equal length?

Yes, I'm for sure keeping that in mind. It's already getting pretty crazy and i'm not even close to half way done. This weekend it SHOULD be dang near complete.

laextreme5 · 03-17-2016, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by offthewall

Yes, I'm for sure keeping that in mind. It's already getting pretty crazy and i'm not even close to half way done. This weekend it SHOULD be dang near complete.

Good, hate to see you put in all that hard work then the length is way off from your desired powerband. Cant wait to hear this thing. Its going to fire up WAY before mine haha

*TheRealSy90* · 03-18-2016, 07:25 PM

But don't FD guys WANT a torquey powerband. Thus the LS craze...

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laextreme5 · 03-18-2016, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRealSy90

But don't FD guys WANT a torquey powerband. Thus the LS craze...

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To an extent yeah, but you dont want peak tq way down low like say 3-3500 rpm. the length of the primaries on the s15 mentioned were extremely long. Longer the primaires the lower the peak tq will be. Granted thats a general statement ignoring other variables such as primary diamter, engine size, max rpm etc. Regardless primary length is the biggest factor in tq production in a certain area in the powerband.

offthewall · 03-20-2016, 02:48 PM

Whatta mess!

rgnhd · 03-21-2016, 12:11 PM

I hope you are running a rear mounted Rad...

02-15-2016, 08:48 PM	#124
offthewall Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Paw Paw Age: 28 Posts: 315 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Blehh pic - but the ignition coils are going there (fire wall). No REAL reason the mount/move them there. Something that came to mind and thoughts it'll be neat! __________________ Whalen's Speed R&D - IG - @MachinegunSquad - www.whalentuned.com

02-23-2016, 09:11 PM	#127
offthewall Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Paw Paw Age: 28 Posts: 315 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Did some work to the never ending project. Tackled the fuel today and got it 99% finished. Got some line securing underneath to do and install another fuel filter mount bracket. * Random underneath shot * __________________ Whalen's Speed R&D - IG - @MachinegunSquad - www.whalentuned.com Last edited by offthewall; 02-21-2017 at 09:28 PM..

03-11-2016, 11:56 AM	#130
offthewall Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Paw Paw Age: 28 Posts: 315 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Couple weeks ago I finished the making of the spark plug wires. MSD offered a pretty nice DIY kit. Got the job done nicely. Got a nice call from Stainless Headers and ending up placing my header material order! Very excited to get the tubing in and start fabricating! Next, i'll RE doing where the coolant reservoir and oil filter housing is to make room for the header (5th time doing this lol). In the mix of all this, im getting my lead harness from MegaSquirt and placing my wiring order too. Excited Excited. I hope i'll make it to racing event Gingerman (in South Haven, MI) for the even in July. If anyone was curious lol, a RPF1 18x9.5 +15 clears a Evo 8 Brembo w/o a spacer. As the Cosmis XT006r's, 18x9.5 +10. I have to run a 25MM spacer. __________________ Whalen's Speed R&D - IG - @MachinegunSquad - www.whalentuned.com Last edited by offthewall; 02-21-2017 at 09:29 PM..

03-11-2016, 01:54 PM	#131
laextreme5 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Louisiana Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hmm, thats good to know on the msd diy kit. Do you know of any drawbacks to the spark plug wires bring that long in length, do all the wires have to be the exact same length? __________________ My S13 Build http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=6005967#post6005967

03-15-2016, 04:33 PM	#136
offthewall Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Paw Paw Age: 28 Posts: 315 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	YESS! __________________ Whalen's Speed R&D - IG - @MachinegunSquad - www.whalentuned.com Last edited by offthewall; 03-17-2016 at 08:53 AM..

02-08-2016, 03:45 PM	#121
NWI1405 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	8into1 is the way to go! A few of my buddy's built 8into1 exhaust on their 1400 truck that runs a 418ci LS based motor and it sounds awesome. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w3dEbOC3G_M Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-11-2016, 06:32 PM	#134
Heywood Jablomie Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2014 Location: Oregon Posts: 112 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	You're shooting for 400hp with this? Jesus why not just stay NA if that's all you're looking for?

03-15-2016, 08:56 PM	#138
scottie Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: asluT Posts: 1,287 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Damnit you got your piping before me! We will have to compare designs once complete. Are you using any modeling software or the kit to configure the runners? I've looked into the ice engine works kit but the cost has me on the fence.

03-15-2016, 09:35 PM	#139
Green Arrow BANNED Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: North Korea Posts: 349 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not familiar with Pettys set up, where TF will the collector fit?

03-16-2016, 08:31 AM	#142
offthewall Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Paw Paw Age: 28 Posts: 315 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Yeah, thats all I've found. BUT, I'm not routing mine down underneath like he did. Sent from my SM-G928P using Tapatalk __________________ Whalen's Speed R&D - IG - @MachinegunSquad - www.whalentuned.com

03-17-2016, 08:52 AM	#143
offthewall Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Paw Paw Age: 28 Posts: 315 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Shop Pup! It's begun! __________________ Whalen's Speed R&D - IG - @MachinegunSquad - www.whalentuned.com

03-17-2016, 09:18 AM	#144
laextreme5 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Louisiana Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OOhh i cant wait, this gone be gud. Also the s15 shots, it looks like they just placed the collector where the stock cat goes in the hump that is already there. Although in that placement the primaries must be quite long, must make for a very low end torquey power band. Offthewall. Have you measured for primary lengths and have a length goal in mind? also are you making them all equal length? __________________ My S13 Build http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?p=6005967#post6005967

03-20-2016, 02:48 PM	#149
offthewall Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Paw Paw Age: 28 Posts: 315 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Whatta mess! __________________ Whalen's Speed R&D - IG - @MachinegunSquad - www.whalentuned.com

03-21-2016, 12:11 PM	#150
rgnhd Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: OKC Age: 25 Posts: 140 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I hope you are running a rear mounted Rad...

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