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nokuntrol · 04-20-2005, 11:47 AM

Does it make a big difference if you use the stock tie rod, but with adjustable tie rod ends?

raen419 · 04-20-2005, 12:32 PM

tie rods are adjustable to begin with.
if you're talking about a performance one (tein, even though it's not really a performance end, just s14 oem basically) then no.
most tie rods ends require an aftermarket inner tie rod.

Cthulhu · 04-20-2005, 11:26 PM

If you're using a kazama/kts or other adjustable tie rod ends, you can adjust for bumpsteer. That's something.

Dousan_PG · 04-20-2005, 11:28 PM

yep
i have smoe SPLParts.com tie rod ends coming this week or early next should be here
good for lowered cars
adj away that nasty bumpsteer, its not so fun.

right now i hvae tien rods (inner and outer) works but with the car lowered its not fun sometmes on freeways and espeically in bad weather on the road

raging panda · 04-20-2005, 11:47 PM

whats the opinion on stock inner tie rods? Will they hold up with a aftermarket outter? Or should both probably be upgraded?

Dousan_PG · 04-20-2005, 11:52 PM

depends
stock inners like s14 would be a worthy upgrade over s13
now rmemeber depends on end too
compare kazama and nams
tell me which is beefier by looks: NAMS

i couldnt say which is REALLY beter but the NAMS definately looks to be.

i was going nams but kuah at spl said the spl ones have more adjustment [then nams/kazama] so thats why i went with those..and cheaper. car is pretty low..

i havent looked at the spl ones, im sure they are closer to nams, i talked w/ kuah about nams vs kazama sometime back waybefore his version came out.

the weakest part of the tie rod/end setup might be the threaded part, a beefy rod that goes into a small thread part is useless. beefiness all across is key

and z32 fits s13/s14
just hve to use both inner and outer

kazama:

NAMS:

SPLparts.com

Johny5 · 04-21-2005, 06:47 AM

see i always thought that nam's would do better bumpsteer adjustment due to the angle of the end of the tie rod, that PLUS the heigh adjustability with spacers. oh well i feel like a poser anyways now, i went with cheesesauce kazamas.

raging panda · 04-21-2005, 11:01 AM

the spl requires the z32 inners right? That looks like a pretty good upgrade, but you can also use s14 inners and S14 outters on a S13? No mods? If its that much of a difference i might go for some s14 inners on a parted out s14 with some aftermarket outters. Or if i find some z32 for a good price ill go with the spl maybe.

Dousan_PG · 04-21-2005, 11:19 AM

no they dont they make both versions
i got the s14 version i dont use inner z, i use tein tie rods
my friend does so he got the spl z ends

Cthulhu · 04-21-2005, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny5

oh well i feel like a poser anyways now, i went with cheesesauce kazamas.

you and me both, and I can actually buy the NAMS here if I wanted.

protip: NAMS and Ikeya formula are by no means identical, but look very similar in design (angled end etc.). NAMS are ~$230 retail here, vs over 300 for Ikeya.

Salty_X · 04-21-2005, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny5

see i always thought that nam's would do better bumpsteer adjustment due to the angle of the end of the tie rod, that PLUS the heigh adjustability with spacers. oh well i feel like a poser anyways now, i went with cheesesauce kazamas.

I can't really visualize how the angle on the Nams helps lessen the tie rod angle, someone care to educate?

I went with cheesesauce kts.

Johny5 · 04-21-2005, 07:17 PM

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04-20-2005, 11:47 AM	#1
nokuntrol Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 424 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Tie Rod End Links + Stock tie rods? Does it make a big difference if you use the stock tie rod, but with adjustable tie rod ends?

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Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	yep i have smoe SPLParts.com tie rod ends coming this week or early next should be here good for lowered cars adj away that nasty bumpsteer, its not so fun. right now i hvae tien rods (inner and outer) works but with the car lowered its not fun sometmes on freeways and espeically in bad weather on the road __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

04-20-2005, 11:52 PM	#6
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	depends stock inners like s14 would be a worthy upgrade over s13 now rmemeber depends on end too compare kazama and nams tell me which is beefier by looks: NAMS i couldnt say which is REALLY beter but the NAMS definately looks to be. i was going nams but kuah at spl said the spl ones have more adjustment [then nams/kazama] so thats why i went with those..and cheaper. car is pretty low.. i havent looked at the spl ones, im sure they are closer to nams, i talked w/ kuah about nams vs kazama sometime back waybefore his version came out. the weakest part of the tie rod/end setup might be the threaded part, a beefy rod that goes into a small thread part is useless. beefiness all across is key and z32 fits s13/s14 just hve to use both inner and outer kazama: NAMS: SPLparts.com __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira Last edited by Dousan_PG; 04-21-2005 at 12:17 AM..

04-21-2005, 06:47 AM	#7
Johny5 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas, Tx Age: 36 Posts: 3,221 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	see i always thought that nam's would do better bumpsteer adjustment due to the angle of the end of the tie rod, that PLUS the heigh adjustability with spacers. oh well i feel like a poser anyways now, i went with cheesesauce kazamas. __________________ www.stewartleask.com

04-21-2005, 11:19 AM	#9
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	no they dont they make both versions i got the s14 version i dont use inner z, i use tein tie rods my friend does so he got the spl z ends __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

04-20-2005, 12:32 PM	#2
raen419 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Jasper, AL Age: 38 Posts: 253 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	tie rods are adjustable to begin with. if you're talking about a performance one (tein, even though it's not really a performance end, just s14 oem basically) then no. most tie rods ends require an aftermarket inner tie rod.

04-20-2005, 11:26 PM	#3
Cthulhu Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 153 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If you're using a kazama/kts or other adjustable tie rod ends, you can adjust for bumpsteer. That's something.

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raging panda Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 105 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	whats the opinion on stock inner tie rods? Will they hold up with a aftermarket outter? Or should both probably be upgraded?

04-21-2005, 11:01 AM	#8
raging panda Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 105 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the spl requires the z32 inners right? That looks like a pretty good upgrade, but you can also use s14 inners and S14 outters on a S13? No mods? If its that much of a difference i might go for some s14 inners on a parted out s14 with some aftermarket outters. Or if i find some z32 for a good price ill go with the spl maybe.

04-21-2005, 07:17 PM	#12
Johny5 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas, Tx Age: 36 Posts: 3,221 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	WORD CHEESESAUCE, RED, BLUE, SUPER CHEESESAUCE POWERS COMBINE INTO JDM MULTILINK! haha damnit i still want your flcas :whackit:!!! __________________ www.stewartleask.com

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