What do you all think of shoving a big v-8 into a 240?  those ford 5.0s are laying around everywhere, and cheap they are.  what do you guys think? what would be wrong with it? cost more than the SR or turbo KA?

DSC

It would be heavy as ####. Install would be expensive as ####. And It probably wouldn't even fit. If you want a v-8 you would probably just want to buy a mustang to start off with.

this is why i don't buy a mustang


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####, that's the second time someone tried to shoo me off. you guys don't want me in the nissan camp or what?

Zenki Two40

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this is why i don't buy a mustang


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he just meant it would be more practical for a mustang n u wouldn't have to waste ur money on a custom install if it would work. stick w/ the 240's though <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

S13 Passion

dont ruin a 240 with a shitty american engine.

Takumi

Well....that's just how it is. You want a V8, get a car equipped with one because it's already a bitch on it's own to get it to fit in there and it's so impractical that it's the only choice. You might as well use that money to either swap in an SR20DET and build the #### out of it or take the stock KA24, turbocharge it, and tune the sucker up to crazy amounts of horsepower. At least those are more practical options. Plus your weight distribution won't be so thrown off. Having an engine that's almost twice the size of your current engine would give you a shitty power-to-weight ratio. Like I said, you might as well build something that won't likely throw off your weight in the front and on top of that, give you much better results.

I'm pretty sure people have had ideas of sticking a V8 in their imports..but there's a reason why people don't do it ya know?

BlankFlip

i mean, it would be cool to see a 240 w/ a v8 set up at a show or something, but i wouldn't wanna drive that thing around everywhere.

what about one of those rotary engines?

BlankFlip

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like out of an rx-7? hmm...i guess it would fit n it would be possible, but as everybody would tell u, for the $ and power, the sr is the best solution that's virtually hassle free compared to custom jobs.

White240sx

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####, that's the second time someone tried to shoo me off. you guys don't want me in the nissan camp or what?
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If you are going to build a drag racer go for it, a V8 will blow the #### out of any 4-cylider. ####, there are full interior 350 Camaros running 8's and 9's on 92 octane. I can't even imagine what it would do in a car that is almost 1000lbs lighter.

If you want to be able to drive this thing in the turns, don't count on with an iron V8 up front. The turn in will most likely be terrible due to an increased polar moment of inertia.

If you want a little more track worthy spring for something all aluminum like the VH. With a couple spools in the fenders it would be unstoppable. Of course this may be better suited for a Z car.;)

ca18guy

If you want to do that, it would be more suited for a 240Z, it wiegh's less anyway. You can set those up to handle just as well with a V8 as you could with a stock engine. A Chevy (not down with Ford) small block does'nt wiegh as much as people think and is a fairly compact motor, I bet you it would fit. As for the rotary engine, do a search in the tech forum, we were just talking about that. Of course i'm willing to bet 50 bucks that you do no swap, and were just answering any wierd idea that pop's in your head.

DuffMan

I've often wondered about it, since people have done it in Z's and Rx7's with good results. I dunno if weight distrobution and handling would work out right. But come to think of it, an all aluminum Chevy SB couldn't weigh much more than an iron KA, could it? They aren't very big either.

DSC

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...####, that's the second time someone tried to shoo me off. you guys don't want me in the nissan camp or what?
</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>Sorry NiseSlut, I didn't mean it to come off like that. Like Zenki said, I was just saying it wouldn't be pratical.

AJ

i have a vid of a 240z with a v8 destroying a r1 road bike <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> thing freaking rooollss..

keepitmovin

Can you send me a link or something?

AJ

umm,, i got it off of morpheus... give me ur email and i can send it if i still have it around.. i'll look.

Zemus

Dood if u want a big engine get a RB26DETT baby!!!, fuck the big block, fuck the v8, go skyline power all they way, its heavy and more power dood, and might even be cheaper (probably not, but still it is leet core man)

LanceS13

V8's are a popular swap for 240Z's but I've never heard of one in a 240SX though. &nbsp;Couldn't be that much different though. &nbsp;The SX has a pretty roomy engine bay so I'm willing to bet it could be done without many fitting issues. &nbsp;You would have to work out custom mounts and drivetrain components. &nbsp;For the money you'll spend (ok...maybe this idea is a little more costly but...), just build a firewall behind the front seat and put a LS6 or something in place of the useless back seat and hatchback area. &nbsp;the hatch would make a perfect hood and you'd probably have a good bit of room to work unlike most MR cars. &nbsp;I dunno...just some wild speculation, but it'd be cool. :biggrin: ::dreams of a 650hp mid-engined 240SX with a wistling rumble that could only belong to a blown V8::

s15dude

A kid at my old highschool is currently doing the chevy small block into the 240Z and supposedly it is gonna handle really well. Plus smoke everyone in the straight line. ONEBADM5 knows more about it than me.

crazycuban

actually, i think i've heard of a 350 in a 240sx...im not sure where tho. &nbsp;and as far as a skyline engine versus the v-8? &nbsp;the reason the skyline is such a good car is partly the engine, partly the drivetrain. &nbsp;the atessa (sp?) system is advanced as shit. &nbsp;v-8's can be had for cheap, and the aftermarket kicks the shit out of the ka's or the sr's (here at least). &nbsp;
the only thing is the reason that v-8 american cars are so great are the beefy, solid axle rear ends. &nbsp;heres an example - camaros can run 9s with 500-600 hp, 8's with 600 or 700. &nbsp;vinny ten's supra has over 1000 hp, and runs 8's. &nbsp;
anyway, i guess my point is that if u want big hp, the v-8 may be the right answer. &nbsp;putting it in would prolly be cheaper than putting in an rb26dett, just because v-8s can be found for so cheap. &nbsp;if u dont want huge hp, like as in over 5 or 600, why bother? &nbsp;do a ka turbo, or an sr.

Podge

what about a small v8.. maybe a 1uz?? depending on how time and money you are willing to spend on the engine transplant, perhaps look at twin turbo-ing a 1uz.. not sure on the legalities of this in America but maybe worth looking in to... only prob would be having a transmission that wouldnt break.

wyldchyld7x

Freakiest conversion I ever saw was a mustang 5.0 in a mazda miata. was in a car magazine I forget which magazine, but supposedly the car still handled really well because not only did the guy swap the engine but he reworked the suspension as well.

niseslut

also, the sr20det and rb26dett would get better fuel mileage than a 350 wouldn't it?

max burke

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It would be heavy as ####. Install would be expensive as ####. And It probably wouldn't even fit. If you want a v-8 you would probably just want to buy a mustang to start off with.
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Got room? Mind you, that's a 240Z but still...

For what it's worth, a Chevy small block is as wide as an RB26DETT, as long as a KA24DE, and will keep the stock weight distribution if you use aluminum heads and intake manifold, move the battery to the trunk, and put on a CF hood. It's entirely possible to build a 400hp 350 for $2,400 that has a flat torque curve and pulls strong from idle to redline.

mistert

put one in a 240z, you can buy swap kits for them, go check out <a href="http://www.hybridz.org" target='_blank'>http://www.hybridz.org</a>

yes you can put a v8 in a 240sx, but it'd have to be a totallyc ustom job, you can get pre-fab parts to put it into the 240z, which weighs about the same and i think they're pretty damned good looking too. you can also throw on a mopar or ford rear end (chevy, too, but these are somewhat less popular). go with a chevy though, who the #### wants fomoco parts in their nissan <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':p'>

thewholefnshow

I think anyone who puts anything other than a japanese NISSAN engine as an engine swap, should be shot directly in the face. Directly. It would ruin the point of the car, which is a perfectly balanced and phenominally handling vehicle A.K.A Drift king. Oh, it's cheap and you will go fast, but if you want that, buy an old rustang, and stink it up with every other gino in the world.

ca18guy

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I think anyone who puts anything other than a japanese NISSAN engine as an engine swap, should be shot directly in the face. Directly. It would ruin the point of the car, which is a perfectly balanced and phenominally handling vehicle A.K.A Drift king. Oh, it's cheap and you will go fast, but if you want that, buy an old rustang, and stink it up with every other gino in the world.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

I think people that want to shot people in the face should be shot in the face <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> When I actually get a 240Z and swap a V8 in it you can have fun looking at my taillights!

(Edited by ca18guy at 9:25 pm on Jan. 12, 2002)

mistert

i want to do a california special myself eventually. i think a caddy 500 would be cool with some aluminum heads, or a grand national engine, or maybe an aluminum block mopar 400. of course, if you wanna get really mean, you can get a 502, aluminum heads, and a 4.25&quot; crank...623 cubic f'in inches!!!

max burke

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from thewholefnshow on 9:15 pm on Jan. 12, 2002
I think anyone who puts anything other than a japanese NISSAN engine as an engine swap, should be shot directly in the face. Directly. It would ruin the point of the car, which is a perfectly balanced and phenominally handling vehicle A.K.A Drift king. Oh, it's cheap and you will go fast, but if you want that, buy an old rustang, and stink it up with every other gino in the world.
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Why should they be shot in the face? Because they like power curves that look like this? <a href="http://www.c5-corvette.com/images/98dyno1a.jpg" target='_blank'>http://www.c5-corvette.com/images/98dyno1a.jpg</a>

That torque curve is so flat you could sleep on it. The S13 is a fine handling car. If you do a V8 swap correctly it'll handle just like, or better than, stock. The fact that you have to resort to racial epithets when discussing legitimate performance options makes me draw the conclusion that you are incredibly closed minded.

For what it's worth the all aluminum LS1/LS6 engines weigh in the neighbourhood of 450-475lbs fully dressed. A KA24DE is in the low 400's and it doesn't get any lighter if you turbocharge.

NOSfEDs12vh45dett

If your going for the V-8, go for a Nissan VH41DE at least, or for the lastest model(Version), of it. &nbsp;Anyway 200SX's look awesome with the two pipes one on each side of the back(like the 300zx, but bigger).