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Old 02-17-2010, 04:33 PM   #31
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I dont think we should ACTIVELY eliminate people, but I think society makes it too easy for the dumb to survive. Society prevents natural selection from taking place.
Yup, I agree 100% Back in the day dumb people knew they were dumb and ugly people knew they were ugly. Not like today were you are told that just because you are dumb and ugly doesnt mean you cant do what everyone else is doing. Bullshit..........

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i think an easy way to start is child limitation laws saying that no couple can have more than 2 kids. that alone would cut down on population
Bingo! this is a great start. Not as barbaric as what I suggested but more pc.
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heres a start.. get rid of illegals and censor the media.. Too many dumbfucks are influenced by the media.. clean that shit up.. People see how blasting somebody in a movie is cool, girls being slutty and sleeping around etc.. Clean up the media. Its gonna be hard because the media is in it to make money though.
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oh god how the media fucks things up....mass panic of the swine flu...O...M...G...the common cold has killed more people...makes you understand why the gov would hide aliens lol....mayan calender...end of the world...AAAAAHHHHHH.... dumb humans and their petty little brains.
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heres a start.. get rid of illegals and censor the media.. Too many dumbfucks are influenced by the media.. clean that shit up.. People see how blasting somebody in a movie is cool, girls being slutty and sleeping around etc.. Clean up the media. Its gonna be hard because the media is in it to make money though.
Plus there's that one thing...

Damn, what's it called again...oh, yeah, that's right, Freedom of the Press.

That's it.
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It's hard for me to tell if Hypertek is being sarcastic or not, lmao.
A lot of it is quote-worthy material no question.

Is censorship always bad?
Our economy prob wouldn't have suffered as much, had not the media made the fuss it did back in '08.
Hype about swine flu is more inconsequential.
You don't have to buy it if you don't want to, and nobody else is going to suffer as a result.

I've always wondered if we do infact have complete Freedom of Speech.
I think existing legal & economic factors have some indirect effect of censorship.
Legally, 'Slander & Libel' would be one form of censorship imo.
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i think an easy way to start is child limitation laws saying that no couple can have more than 2 kids. that alone would cut down on population
my professor in global studies brought up today that the US is actually depopulating right now, the average couple is having i think 1.62 children..i dont remember the exact number i have to dig through my notes but it was well under 2..which is necessary to populate
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my professor in global studies brought up today that the US is actually depopulating right now, the average couple is having i think 1.62 children..i dont remember the exact number i have to dig through my notes but it was well under 2..which is necessary to populate
maybe all the gays? lol jk. don't worry...we have china to populate the world. what are they up to now? 2/3rds population of the world?
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It's hard for me to tell if Hypertek is being sarcastic or not, lmao.
A lot of it is quote-worthy material no question.

Is censorship always bad?
Our economy prob wouldn't have suffered as much, had not the media made the fuss it did back in '08.
Hype about swine flu is more inconsequential.
You don't have to buy it if you don't want to, and nobody else is going to suffer as a result.

I've always wondered if we do infact have complete Freedom of Speech.
I think existing legal & economic factors have some indirect effect of censorship.
Legally, 'Slander & Libel' would be one form of censorship imo.
freedom of speech....goes hand in hand with grain of salt....I still can't yell bomb on a plane. lol
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The media is already censored by the government. FCC controls what is and isn't said. That's why you can hear about a stupid snowstorm 24/7 and not hear anything about people dying in Haiti or Thailand.

Like how do WE as normal citizens know that Iran is a Nuclear power? We have to believe what we are told..

Morality is what seperates us from animals. Once we lose that and kill each other we've debased our humanity.
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The media is already censored by the government. FCC controls what is and isn't said. That's why you can hear about a stupid snowstorm 24/7 and not hear anything about people dying in Haiti.

Morality is what seperates us from animals. Once we lose that and kill each other we've debased our humanity.

This argument is pretty much what i was talking about lol, morality cant be used to seperate us from animals as a species since as a whole we do not share one uniform idea of this. SOme of us dont bother killing others because its inconvenient and not because of some moral code.
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All that is non-viable in nature invariably perishes. We humans have transgressed the law of natural selection. Not only have we supported inferior life-forms, we have encouraged their propagation.
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my professor in global studies brought up today that the US is actually depopulating right now, the average couple is having i think 1.62 children..i dont remember the exact number i have to dig through my notes but it was well under 2..which is necessary to populate
Fertility rate to sustain a population is roughly 2.1, due to the fact that a percentage of the population will never reproduce, and some children will not live long enough to reproduce.

U.S. fertility rate was 2.05 in 2009, and has actually been on the rise in recent years (09 was a down year). 2008 actually had a fertility rate of 2.1. Our birth rate is still much higher than European nations.
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We humans have transgressed the law of natural selection. Not only have we supported inferior life-forms, we have encouraged their propagation.
that's basically it.
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This argument is pretty much what i was talking about lol, morality cant be used to seperate us from animals as a species since as a whole we do not share one uniform idea of this. SOme of us dont bother killing others because its inconvenient and not because of some moral code.
Yes, this I would very much agree with.
Ppl have different values, and to an extent also differing views morals.

Even if somehow 'morals' make is special,
Are humans really 'better' than fellow animals?
I don't know how you would measure that.
More intelligent with certain tasks & abilities most likely.
More capable of cooperating/exploiting with members of the same (and select other) species perhaps.

Personally I don't really think we are all that different from wild animals.
In the end, were all looking to pursue the same goals: survive, eat, mate, maybe dominate the pecking order.
Civilization just offers more distractions presents ways for us to 'beat around the bush' a lot more.
Not that I think that's so terrible really.
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Define what you mean by "inferior life forms."
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"inferior life forms."
Really? Do you have to ask that? How many "reality" tv shows glorify being a complete and total moron, money hungry bitch, spoiled brat or other type of useless fuck?
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Define what you mean by "inferior life forms."
We could start with "snooki" and "the situation."














And finish with the rest of New Jersey.
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I definitely could. Can't feed yourself? Too fucking bad.
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my professor in global studies brought up today that the US is actually depopulating right now, the average couple is having i think 1.62 children..i dont remember the exact number i have to dig through my notes but it was well under 2..which is necessary to populate

An important part of this would be to see WHO is having the kids.

My guess is that the people having more kids are PRECISELY the ones who should NOT be having them....poor, uneducated people.

Ironically, the ones who CAN afford them (educated, stable income) are probably having less.

However, there is of course the middle ground, where the act of having kids in and of itself effects your financial status.

Bottom line:

Having kids if you can't afford them is the best way to stay poor.
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Make it socially acceptable to be homosexual. 10% more babies not being born can't be bad.
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What is the most popular solution to an animal/species problem when it either outgrows its habitat, over eats and destroys its habitat or becomes a general nuisance?

We setup hunting seasons, issue hunting licenses and just find out ways to exterminate (solve) the problem.

Why cant this be done with people? I mean lots of people fit these same categorys, and we can justify killing lots and lots of animals to solve a problem so why cant it be done with people?
You are right. Its a great idea! WHY CANT IT BE DONE? IT WOULD SOLVE ALL WORLD PROBLEMS! I wonder what you are? White? Black? Asian? Hispanic? Atheist? Muslim? Protestant? Male? Female? Gay?

because whatever you are, some other group considers YOU AND YOUR KIND "the problem"

So yes, its a genius idea. I wonder why NO ONE in history has EVER considered it before!



JEWS/GYPSIES/COMMUNISTS/SLAVS/ NON ARYANS ARE THE PROBLEM!!



NO, EVIL CAPITALIST PIGS/UNRULY UKRANIAN/EVERYONE I THINK DISAGREES WITH ME IS TEH PROBLEM!!



YOU FOOLS! ITS MUSLIM BOSNIAKS AND CROATS WHO ARE TEH PROBLEM!!



INFIDEL NOOBS! ITS ALL YOU WESTERN INFIDELS WHO ARE TEH PROBLEM!!!



AND THE ARMENIANS, DON'T FORGET THEY ARE THE PROBLEM!



STUPID WHITE MEN! IT BE TUTSIS WHO BE TEH PROBLEM! OMGZORS11!!!!




GET THE POINT, GENIUS?


For everyone who says "inferior human beings(according to my definition of inferior) are teh problem", you are in good company with the exemplary human beings pictured above. Way to go, you superior uber human beings, you
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Unfortunately where we live, in this country or anywhere else there will always be people with opinions that may appear irrational to say the least. Sure, let natural selection take its course on others or we can help/send aid to others. Or we can go "hunting" on certain people.

I agree with just about all the replies here, but the most important concern is as individuals we should not stop living and bettering ourselves. Stay focused on what you need to do for yourself. Stay driven to accomplish your goals. Surprisingly your success does help others indirectly. If you still you are not doing enough for the greater good then you can always volunteer.
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^^^

no need for the hostility.
my impression was the OP was prompting a discussion,
not making a statement.
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We could start with "snooki" and "the situation."

I like the situation.
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my impression was the OP was prompting a discussion,
not making a statement.
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Also please take this question with a grain of salt, its a hypothetical question I though about while watching the pig bomb documentary (if thats what you call it) on history or discovery.....I cant remember.
Obviously every single other person in the thread got this except you. Genius? Not really, you on the other hand...................lol never mind Also I wasn't pointing the finger at any particular race/religion GENIUS
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my mom works for a company that houses feeds and generally does everything for mentally retarded adults or adults with other development issues. Its rediculous how much help these people need to live.Many of them cant walk, feed themselves,or eat soolid food or even take care of hygeine by themselves or dress themselves.One time a lady she was taking care of almost died because she no joke fell face first into her soup and almost drowned because she could not pull her own head out of her bowl of soup.I think it is stupid to keep these kinds of people alive.It may sound horrible but people that cant take care of even basic things to survive like eating food given to them have already been choosen by nature to die.I dont really consider them human beings there more like a plant that just sits there and u have to give water and light and it provides almost nothing and would die without you.
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Old 02-20-2010, 02:25 PM   #60
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^^^dude you went a little too far. it was not their choice to be born that way and cause we as humans have a natural caring instinct we provide for them no matter the burden. you mom doesn't have to work at that place it was her choice.
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