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Old 03-28-2008, 12:08 AM   #91
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buddy club. hmm

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looks cool the wheels im not crazy about. id stick w/ the RAYS myself

cluster is ok but meh. whats the point.
stock works fine.
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the fact that there's interest for the cluster makes for a point because it means there is a market for it. I won't be sold on one till I see a prototype. Plus I'm hoping for some sort of water temp and/or oil temp/press gauge that can be added within the cluster. Would clean things up. Doubt it'd be a difficult addition either.
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well...i will give buddy club a ring tommorrow sometime and talk to them some more about this thread (and email it to my contact)...currently there is no prototype for the S chassis as they havent seen market research for the product in our area...the only working prototype they have at the moment is the EK cluster

as far as the R&D is concerned...making a cluster isnt hard to do for them...buddy club is an OEM company...they have their own R&D dept as well as their own in house manufacturing services...they have years of PROFESSIONAL circuit racing manufacturing and developing under their belts...so thats not something id be worried about

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Really try to get the addition of a proper water temp. gauge and oil pressure/temp guage in the works with it. It would really get more ppl to consider such a cluster.
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Really try to get the addition of a proper water temp. gauge and oil pressure/temp guage in the works with it. It would really get more ppl to consider such a cluster.

well one thing about your stock water temp gauge sensor...its made to have HUGE normal zone...so outside of having to run a different water temp sensor...its gonna be OEM more than likely

remember...this unit will replace the STOCK gauges...and therefore doesnt have the room for additional gauges
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I understand that, but I'm not talking about 50 mm or 60 mm gauges. I'm talking about somehow incorporating a water temp gauge that actually gives you a reading similar to that of an aftermarket gauge in the oem position. Possibly an oil temp/pressure gauge around the same area as well with the same aftermarket function. I don't see it to hard to make since they actually have the resources and brains for such a product.
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I understand that, but I'm not talking about 50 mm or 60 mm gauges. I'm talking about somehow incorporating a water temp gauge that actually gives you a reading similar to that of an aftermarket gauge in the oem position. Possibly an oil temp/pressure gauge around the same area as well with the same aftermarket function. I don't see it to hard to make since they actually have the resources and brains for such a product.
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the gauge cluster looks nice but its a bit pricey and a dohc cluster for 45$ will do just fine for an SR but then again i'd rather have atleast one thing in the car brand new
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i am down.but it will be cool to have color choices.maybe have a group choice style or design. etc.2 years ago.i tried to get the jdm ones with white faces at autobac but $1000 .i like them.they come with different kind of styles.is the whole cluster also.
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Im sure they're people out there that would pay that much for a "looks" cluster, but the 240 scene sure doesn't fall into that category. The only advantage is the Tach. I know a lot of Supra guys pay about that much for a TRD tach and speedo, but they're baller and its somewhat rare.
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I would much prefer a standalone, one size fits all cluster like a Stack, that one just looks like a set of ebay gauge faces on a stock cluster and would require stock harness which I'm not gonna have soon.
Seems like instead of doing the R+D on different cars, they could make it fit more stuff and sell more by making a smaller universal cluster in a similar style and offering custom harnesses to make it PnP with different vehicles.
I would buy the hell out of that if it were cheaper than Stack or AIM.
I just need a cheap speedometer when I ditch my OEM harness.
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I thought about it. I'd buy the gauge cluster. I'm a looks whore too. However, being that they're trying to market to the JDM market and the USDM market, it seems to me there's enough SR's out there that they should at least incorporate a boost gauge . I think that would draw a few more people to it. Oil pressure / temp would be nice, so would an EGT, or hell lets go nuts and throw a wideband in there!

All jokes aside, most OEM gauge clusters for turbo cars do infact come with a boost gauge as well, thus why I make the suggestion
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I understand that, but I'm not talking about 50 mm or 60 mm gauges. I'm talking about somehow incorporating a water temp gauge that actually gives you a reading similar to that of an aftermarket gauge in the oem position. Possibly an oil temp/pressure gauge around the same area as well with the same aftermarket function. I don't see it to hard to make since they actually have the resources and brains for such a product.
See like I said, before, what youre asking for will mean that Buddy Club will have to over engineer the current cluster they have in order to do this. That means, more R & D, longer time, more expensive to make, more expensive to sell, less potential buyer...nuff said...it wont happen.

If youre so bent out of shape sprucing up your stock cluster, you'd be surprised what some LED needle kit, LED bulbs can do to the stock cluster. But it aint gonna cost $500...

Personally, stock S14 white face cluster w/ some red bulbs is enough sprucing up for me...
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definitely interested in the cluster...gotta see the final product
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I would be interested in P1 QF's depending on the/price.

I bought a set for my wrx back in 02 (paid $1600 for the set shipped, BNIB - times have changed i guess) and have been trying to find a decent s-chassis set since 03 with no luck. <3'd em SO much though.

And people are right, the resale value was shit. It took 4 months for me to sell with no curb rash at all and including rays lugs.
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I don't think anyone is trying to be negative here. I have seen allot of people come and try to "feel out" stuff like this.

Allot of people say "OH YEAH, I WOULD BUY THOSE IN A HEARTBEAT"

A company invests a ton of money into a product. No one buys it.

Buddy Club is WELL AWARE of the S-Chassis market, they don't need to be reminded we are here. I am also sure they are well aware of what will and will not sell, and if they thought they could sell something, they would have brought it to market by now.

Anyone here with enough dime for those wheels, ems, turbo setups, suspension, is just going to spring for a Stack or AIM sports cluster.
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I would buy the cluster.
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I don't think anyone is trying to be negative here. I have seen allot of people come and try to "feel out" stuff like this.

Allot of people say "OH YEAH, I WOULD BUY THOSE IN A HEARTBEAT"

A company invests a ton of money into a product. No one buys it.

Buddy Club is WELL AWARE of the S-Chassis market, they don't need to be reminded we are here. I am also sure they are well aware of what will and will not sell, and if they thought they could sell something, they would have brought it to market by now.

Anyone here with enough dime for those wheels, ems, turbo setups, suspension, is just going to spring for a Stack or AIM sports cluster.

Very well put by the way. you hit it DEAD on.
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well...i will give buddy club a ring tommorrow sometime and talk to them some more about this thread (and email it to my contact)...currently there is no prototype for the S chassis as they havent seen market research for the product in our area...the only working prototype they have at the moment is the EK cluster

as far as the R&D is concerned...making a cluster isnt hard to do for them...buddy club is an OEM company...they have their own R&D dept as well as their own in house manufacturing services...they have years of PROFESSIONAL circuit racing manufacturing and developing under their belts...so thats not something id be worried about

i appreciate all the positive and (for the most part) mature feedback in this thread and HOPEFULLY it will lead somewhere soon

lol dude.. why don't you just ask for a job?
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I don't think anyone is trying to be negative here. I have seen allot of people come and try to "feel out" stuff like this.

Allot of people say "OH YEAH, I WOULD BUY THOSE IN A HEARTBEAT"

A company invests a ton of money into a product. No one buys it.

Buddy Club is WELL AWARE of the S-Chassis market, they don't need to be reminded we are here. I am also sure they are well aware of what will and will not sell, and if they thought they could sell something, they would have brought it to market by now.

Anyone here with enough dime for those wheels, ems, turbo setups, suspension, is just going to spring for a Stack or AIM sports cluster.
^agreed. buddy club made a push back around 2000 here in the U.S. market and it was not a success. they've slowly tried to climb back into the market but their rep just isnt up there among the leading competitors.
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I would buy that cluster, provided it has a tach that goes over 8000rpm and a speedo that goes over 120mph.
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its the plain fact that, why in the world would Buddy Club want to make parts for a car that a) they dont even use themselves in their race cars, b) dont specialize in, and c) other companies make them, and sell them for dirt cheap now a days. Its a waste of time and money. that's why Buddy Club specializes in what they are known for, and they do damn good at it. Honda/Acura mainly. they own at this market.
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Dorishop is in Washington I believe

Dorkidori is in Nevada

Staying on topic though, it looks like the unit they sell for the Civic is more of a cluster insert rather than the whole cluster unit (if you look at the Buddy Club site its the bottom left pic)

So it only replaces the fuel section/water temp, speedo, and tach

All the rest of the cluster is the OEM warning lights and such

So I'm not sure how it would be integrated with the 240sx cluster
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See like I said, before, what youre asking for will mean that Buddy Club will have to over engineer the current cluster they have in order to do this. That means, more R & D, longer time, more expensive to make, more expensive to sell, less potential buyer...nuff said...it wont happen.

If youre so bent out of shape sprucing up your stock cluster, you'd be surprised what some LED needle kit, LED bulbs can do to the stock cluster. But it aint gonna cost $500...

Personally, stock S14 white face cluster w/ some red bulbs is enough sprucing up for me...
Those needle kits are expensive for the crap they are. Only seen them sold from one company, maybe you know of another. I've swapped out my reg. bulbs for LED bulbs and it's a nice touch, but I'd like something a little more modern looking. This would be an option if it turns out right. Doesn't have to have the two gauges I'm seeking, but it'd be nice to somehow incorporate them. Doesn't hurt to have options. Only other options I could think of are maybe getting a Kouki 180SX cluster or another USDM DOHC cluster, crack it open and tinker with it till I like what I see.
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I wish they would bring back the original p-1's...
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I don't care much for the new ones. I liked the 16" fits they had of the regular P1.

cluster - no thanks, made my own. works fine.

I'm pretty interested in the Secu-Timer though. Another added security measure wouldn't hurt.
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Old 03-28-2008, 03:26 PM   #118
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boo, id rather just get a k's meter speedometer stock replacement and call it day. Stock gauges would look better than this.
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-The P1 QFs look so so and have good offsets, I would buy them for half of what they are going to cost, maybe

-The P2s look even less appealing to me and are propibly cost more than what I would want to spent on them.

-Both sets just don't speak to me, making me want to throw down lots of loot for them
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If you could convince them to bring over a GOOD sized 4 lug wheel, Im sure it would sell like crazy in our market. The lack of options in the 4 lug category forces people to spend extra cash on a completely unnecesary 5 lug conversion.

Something like 17x9 +15 or 18x9 +15 in 4lug would be awesome.
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