tuzzio

I wouldn't trade my 240 for a skyline because rb's suck for oiling issues, and i'd still have to buy all the suspension parts to make the car fun.

STR8E180

i sold my S chassis and bought a GTR...never looked back, best thing i ever did

10psitx

As an owner of 4 RHD cars one being GTR R32 and the same amount of LHD vehicles i would venture to add some thoughts/observations...(personal)

It would take about 2 to 3 weeks of actual driving a RHD car stateside to adjust and feel natural both my sons drive the Laurel just fine and i honestly can't tell the difference anymore.

Parts wise, not a big deal...as Bosshogg mentioned, a little effort, get the part numbers and order through your local Nissan dealership (i import parts and cars so its easy for me)

Giving up your "baby" for a GTR?... i would pose this....if you have to ask then don't do it. Here's why...a GTR in its pure OEM configuration is an absolute drivers car, not a show piece, not for hard parking, not for showing off your JDM parts collection, not for internet points...the enjoyment of having one is the fact that you can push it, you can thoroughly enjoy the excitement of learning the car and finding your limits.
Now your can make an argument that this is possible with any car....and that's true but with most cars you will need to build it to match the OEM performance level of a GTR but still no ATTESA...evo's and sti's? some of the few that might be comparable. Therein lies a personal part...the feel of the GTR compared to the other car cars with similar features?...in my personal opinion after doing such a comparison...the GTR feels like a much more solid and mature car than either one, My buddy drove the GTR and was amazed at the feel, response and features of the car, This is coming from a that works on super cars for a living...i trust that he knows a few things about cars in general.

25 year old car syndrome....get over it! ....it is a 25 year old car if you don't want the hassles of, or expense of owing an old car...don't buy one.... but certainly don't make it an excuse. All cars need maintenance, all cars break, it's a fact of life. Some are more expensive than others...

For me...i don't care about drifting, mega steering angle, slammed stance status, bass boat quality paint jobs, wing size or fancy body kits etc...i just simply enjoy driving my cars to work, TO and ON a race track, or on a cruise with my buddies. The GTR does all those things and i do have to repair/fix stuff when they break-leak or stop functioning and i also do it with the other cars as well.


For a car person, the choice to give up your baby to purchase another car,whatever it might be, should always be about what better features the car brings to table vs the current car, your ability to maintain the car so that those features are kept and what your are willing to accept as far as owning the car(maintenance upkeep etc). A GTR is a drivers car so its merits shine as such..you get satisfaction from driving it, plain and simple. If that's not enough, then that's your answer...keep your current baby and enjoy it!

STR8E180

can't compare the 2

one is a twin turbo 2.6L and the other is a single turbo 2.0L

the RB20 isn't famous for its torque because its got none

fatduece

^lmao. Honestly if you're getting a gts you might as well swap a sr20. It will be far more reliable than a rb. Sell the pos 20/25 to a fanboy. He's going to cry once his oil pump takes a shit. Leave the rb26 for the gtrs

I think the worst part about buying a 25 year old car for 25-30k is knowing you'll be into it around 40-50k by the time you get the car to the stage you want it at.

sentradude

You all bring up great points, pros and cons... I guess it boils down to personal preference. I have personally never driven an R32 so it is difficult for me to say if I would like it or not. It is definitely "cool" but I'm not a big fan of the latest enormously inflated price tag. I wonder if the prices will level out or even come down in the near future esp. once the 33's become available. My biggest fear would be to buy something for 25K+ to find out a year or two later that its lost 10K+ because the "Hype" is over.

Kingtal0n

The glass was always a big issue for wrecked S15 silvias here.
I know someone who used an S14 glass in an S15 chassis; cut the ends off the glass he said. You can't tell once installed.

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fatduece

The deflation in price is definitely possible as more rhd vehicles become legal for import. The demand will definitely fall and so should the prices.


I'm pretty sure windshield glass company can make you a copy


http://www.justjapaneseglass.com/nis...or-bronze.html

http://www.rightdriveparts.com/skyli...n-skyline.html

Sileighty_85

I cant help but notice ya'll are making way too big a deal out of the RB's oil systems issues.

These engines have lasted 25 years now. Ya'll make it sounds like they will just up and shit its pants one day without warning.

As long as you're not bouncing off the rev limiter, using launch control every where you go its just fine for DD'n.

Even so it'll still take a shit load of abuse before it fails. I drifted a good bit of RB's in the past pretty much all stock engines with little bolts ons straight beating the shit out of it holding at high RPM's and bouncing off the rev limiter never skipped a beat.


Even still if you wanted to pull the engine, slap in a JUN collar and Reimax gear and its good to go.

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If you're buying a specialty car, and worrying about what it's going to be worth down the line, then you shouldn't buy the car. I don't think I've ever purchased a car (that I've liked) and cared what it'll be worth when I'm done with it. I've always wanted to hold on to the car way past it's "worth" if you will. If I bought an R32, or anything like that, it would be something I would hold onto until it was physically incapable of carrying on. I think my G35 is the only car I've gotten out of in under a decade of ownership and that was mainly to appease my wife. The fact that I'm over 6ft and the backseats were fairly useless to me, didn't help (my 2 boys couldn't cruise with me). But, in my grand scheme, I coulda made that work lol. But, happy wife, happy life.

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sentradude

This is a great point you make, and with my beloved S13 i am not concerned with what the value of the car will be in the future. However, with a car like the R32 it is somewhat of an investment (20K+). I've owned a few very nice cars but I had always made it a point to get out of them before I got less for them than what I originally paid for them (this does not of-course include my S13 as I think I will hold on to it no matter what). I think it could be a love it or hate it relationship and you wont know until you try it.

ixfxi

^ clueless

STR8E180

even the RB26 has oil pump failures as well
its actually very common across the RB range

that being said they don't really fail often in standard cars but once you start doing some mediations and putting some serious boost into them thats when you see them fail

supersayianjim

that's what I said...

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supersayianjim

I DO plan on buying a gtr in the next 2 years or so. Id rather wait for my dream car the r33 to be legal but who knows I might just pick up a r32 in the mean time.

right now I have a rb25 s13 fully modded sans the engine internals.

I have a sc400 with a 1.5jz swap and a mild worked head with aem v2 and a re-ringed bottom end.

I need the gtr for BALANCE. I have shortly owned a rhd(postal) legacy suby. rhd takes some getting used to, it's not rocket science tho.

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STR8E180

me personally if the R33 is your dream car and thats what you really want i would just hold off and wait for that but thats just me

greddy2die

Exactly, especially if you dont plan getting one for 2 years because in a little over 3 years the R33's will meet the 25 year rule since it goes by build date.

fatduece

Yes, I am aware of the problem across the RB platform. I just don't think their worth spending money on. At least the 26 has a bigger displacement, comes with itbs, better intake manifold and Intercooler. I herd the head has solid lifters? Not sure if that's true though.

STR8E180

yeah the head comes standard solid lifter

the RB20 engine is a piece of junk imo

driftsucky

That's all relative. To US, the R32 is an investment. I work in a far more domestic vehicle capacity, and to some of the muscle guys, 20k is barely the price of admission. And that's just a starting point for them. Some of them see things like a new SS or a new Shelby GT350 (cars that sticker at 60+ and retail for higher) as an investment. To these guys, 20k is tune/wheel money lol.

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garagelu

Not saying r32 are bad but of course Sean Morris is going to convince you on a r32. That's how he makes money.

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sentradude

I guess the biggest factor now is how long these prices will keep rising, how high will they raise and will they stay there, level out or plummet down to 10k range..

Bnr32gtr

I had a gray market r32 gtr and I hatted it. Was a hassle driving, bad blind spots cuz u r on the wrong side of the rode. And just like this guy said the oiling system sucks and u have the dang crank collor issue. Is a good bit of cake to fix the flaws with the motor but I must say I do like the torque and they like mods. I'm partly bias to this chassis as well because I traded a mk4 Supra that I just did a tt 6sp swap to get the gtr and it was the worst decision of my life! All cuz I was skyline struck

iStayBroke

I agree with this. Grew up in Japan and remember these kinds of prices for pretty decent cars (add a S14 Ks for $1k to the list), and it makes it hard to justify $20K for another 25 year old car because of blind demand from a market that has no experience with said car.

As far as the RHD stuff, I've been dailying my RHD Z for a while now. Only real difference I feel is your blind spot is on the other side, so you check over your shoulder in the other direction you normally would. Though I will admit I've been moving back and forth between America and Japan most my life and started driving in Japan so RHD feels more natural to me.

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RB25GUY

not true man RB's with proper maintenance and failure procedures they are very reliable. gonna daily an RB? unless you have a fully built bottom crank collar dont throw more than 400 hp and keep the limiter at a moderate level under 8k for 26's and 20's, 7k for 25's and you will have a blast.. anything past that hp for the street in a light RWD car is not needed..... but R chassis with the extra weight 450 isn't enough.

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*Ahem* Meanwhile, for the same stock vs stock price...

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Mr.Doback

Top notch explanation. I've bounced around from all sorts of cars from early 90s GTIs to big body sedans to a 1972 911 back to an s14 with sr and now r32 gtr...

If you truly love driving and have the available funds, I wouldn't question the purchase. S chassis cars feel like tin cans compared to the bnr32. I can't compare to hcr32. The car feels planted and extremely stable. As far as driveability, I find it is amazingly easy to drive and rhd is is just a quick learning curve of situating yourself on the opposite side of the car and opposite side of the lane.

I considered taking a bigger plunge and getting a 997s however the 13yo boy in me opted to get something a little different. I don't regret it at all, plus I get to play around in my sisters 997 4s when I feel the need for a change.

The GTR mixed with a good suspension setup and C's shifter really makes it a combination that can't be beat for a daily driver/weekend warrior.

I couldn't find a car that checked all the right boxes in this price range. The GTR is the common man's super car. It's totally in reach for most, stands out like we all enjoy, and most of all, has a superb powerplant and drivetrain to go along with it. Plus...I get to throw all the nostalgic and well-known JDM brand names at it that could ever want.

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sentradude

I was seriously considering it - until I found that the company I was communicating with is swapping clusters between cars to make them lower mileage. Now, ill just stick to my 240.. at least I know the history behind it.

Moral of the story, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. Current price of a clean GTR32 with low miles is minimum $25K+ easily. Anything under $20K listed with low miles etc.. is most likely tampered with. I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger!

fatduece

^What company is that?!

Bnr32gtr

I owned one for 7 years and hated it's the hole time so happy it's gone so happy! For that kind of $ I'd rather have a 911,mk4 supra, m3, m5.