handinpants

It took me soo longto upload all the photos, I misplaced the memory card they were on until the other daay

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PoorMans180SX

No but seriously guys, it's probably fast, but think about the weight balance. Probably pretty crappy.

Cool for trying something new I guess.

Oh and that steering wheel is ugly. Who mixes wood and carbon fiber?

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kojiki88

I see Jesus Driving a 240 all the time.

handinpants

pasted from hybridz post from like 9 years ago


Ah, here is the thread: Click here The guys name is Jim Halsey. Unfortunetly, the links to the pictures no longer work.

EDIT: Here's some more information from one of his other posts...

"I am in the process of building a 72 240 Z. The car will be stock appearing but will be powered by a Viper crate motor and will use a T56 6 speed and R200 rear. Most major fabrication is complete, motor and trans in car, new chrome moly front cross member, engine set back 4 inches to get engine behind cross member and down in the chassis. Firewall recessed, trans tunnel reshaped to accomodate the T56. Viper motor is 505 lbs fully dressed with clutch, flywheel, starter, alternator, A/C compressor, power stg pump and sepentine accessory drive. Stock tubular headers fit nicely, the collectors need to be rotated to face the rear. Have run two box section rails back through the floor to tie the front and rear together for stiffness. Also will soon have the 10 pt roll cage in and then i can go looking for seats to fit. Full road race coil over and tubular control arm setup from Arizona Z with 6 piston Wilwood calipers in front, 4 piston in rear, 5 bolt aluminum hubs. Car will have power windows, A/C, stereo, full cell, headlight covers, louvered hood, fire suppression system, otherwise stock appearing. Will run Fluidyne aluminum radiator with integrated oil cooler. Wheels will be 17x8, 17x9, forged, undecided on make, also paint is up in the air.

Car is being built by Nelson Vels, Billet Works, Santa Clarita, Ca. He has done several V8 conversions in early Z cars and is into doing this car a little differently. Probably 6-8 months from hitting the street. Will also give it a go at open track on the big track at Willow Springs."


long story short, whoever put the motor in did the wiring wrong. sent it to dc performance.

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HyperTek

Soo many S30s with good engine swaps, but bad taste in cosmetic appearance/part selection.

Im sure this car is really nice, but id take the Sr240z anyday over this one, its just got a better theme to its build up.

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comablack783

putting an sr in a 240z is like throwing a sausage down a hallway... SURE, it works and you can do it, BUT WHY?... that engine bay screams 6 inline or bigger. that v10 looks proper, sick sick...

OBEEWON

Everyone talking about wieght balance...bah. As long as its not stupid like 90/10 or more weight in the rear than the front its all gravey.

Taking an SR over a Viper V10 is like picking a man over a women...gay...

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L28 complete with stock manifolds, SU's, and A/C compressor + 5 spd 523lbs

Viper 8.0 L alone 716lbs

Stock weight balance is F52/R48%, and the whole car only weights 2260lbs.

Just saying.

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Xplat

People don't like stock looking Z's? K.

Guess it needs fender flares or wide body convershunz with wheels wider than F1 cars that are HELLA FLUSH. V10 motor? RATHER HAVE AN SR RIGHT?

Besides, everyone knows that V10's aren't as good as 4 cylinder 2.0 liter motors because once you have that many cylinders you won't be able to reach VTEC. Besides think of the gas mileage this beast will have! Not very economical at all! And where's its Type-R badge? Car needs Aero and a huge wing and mesh grills in every opening of the car body. I have great taste in car mods and know what I'm talking about just like everyone else here.

In case no one picked up on this I was being sarcastic.

240sxvaj

i think the rims killed it

handinpants

read everything.... "Viper motor is 505 lbs fully dressed" its all alluminum.... so technically its 18lbs lighter than the stock motor, with tons more power. not a bad balance.

besides the guy who built the car has a economical daly. its a project of his, he also has a shelby gt350. sooo one would assume he's good in the financial department. but thats not my business or concern.
what is you may ask, this guy did the swap back in 2001.... go figure


poorman's 180sx, i dunno why you gotta be all hating and what not, at least you look dumb when you post illegitimate facts, and i have to thank you for continuing to do so. why if you feel that it is wrong to mix carbon and wood, then don't do it, last time i checked wood is made out of carbon, well just about everything in life is composed of matters of carbon. the reason this guy did what he did is because he could. he took it to that level that no one else would. its also called raising the bar.

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handinpants

i will get all the specs on the vehicle this week

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TwItCh

i was thinking the same thing who would hate on that, that 240 is a work of art

all i have to say to the haters now is

PoorMans180SX

You have no clue what you're talking about. There is 100% zero chance that an 8.4 liter V10 weights 505lbs. You want to know why? An LS1 weighs 497, and a VH45 weights 520.

Oh, and you're so smart and sciencey with your carbon makeup retort. Guess what? They still don't look good together.

And calm down, this is the internet, I'm just stating my opinions with facts, I'm not hating and saying the whole project is dumb or anything, just saying what I would do, and do differently. No harm no foul.

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Tom25666

i think this is the real issue here. i did the vtec upgrade on my sr20 and never looked back

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fullthrottle

It weighs 500lbs. Yes it has two more pistons. Yes thats why its awesome.

gsr-boost-dc

hahahah! So true!!

TwItCh

but the weight issue depends

if it is the 1st gen viper motor it ways around 700

and the second gen viper motor weighs 505

atutt

You sir. Are a giant blundering oaf. (In other words, you're a fucking tool) And that goes for everyone else who thinks that.

I bet you think a fully dressed LS1 still weighs 497lbs. And that it's lighter than fully dressed KA's and SR's. Boy are you ever mislead...
(Without fluids and exhaust manifolds the LS1 motor weighs approx 536lbs. It weighs 609lbs with the tranny attached. No manifolds or fluids)
And just so I'm not full of shit like.. Much like yourself..


So somehow this magical 8L V10 is, at the very least, 31lbs lighter than an all aluminum, push rod V8? A V8 which has a smaller block, smaller, shorter, lighter crank, 2 less pistons and con rods...
I don't think so.

How about we get our heads out of are ass and stop being so ignorant to believe aluminum blocks are the lightest thing since the fart that I just let out.
Is aluminum light? Yup. Is it softer and weaker than cast iron? Yup. This is why, say, an LS1 can be bored out .020 over. Safely. If you're really good. maybe .030 over. The IRON LS1? I see .060 over bore all the time...
That aluminum block has to be massively reinforced to make up for lost strength. How do they do it. Add more material to the casting. Adding higher strength alloys to the mix. Making it heavier and stronger than pure aluminum.
I should also mention that the iron LS1 block is only 80lbs heavier than is aluminum counter part.
"But even though aluminum is less than half the weight of cast iron?"
"I'm afraid so"

Now, lets get back to the Viper 10 being lighter than a L28 I6.
It simply isn't.
The amount of extra material needed to carry the extra 4 cylinders is enough to make the V10 a boat anchor. In reality, that V10, fully dressed, probably weighs closer 620lbs. Give or take a few extra lbs.

So. For the record. The LS1 IS HEAVIER THAN KA's AND SR's.
Therefore, the Viper V10 which is similar to an LS1 (An all aluminum push rod V motor), but with 2 more cylinders. It physically cannot be 31lbs lighter.

And also everyone is stupid.

tricky_ab

And it makes me sad

PoorMans180SX

Thank you good sir.

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T chop

Why doesn't anyone even care about the V10 being heavier? It's way fucking cooler and a million times faster.

So the car is a few hundred lbs heavier...... it has like 5 times the power so whatever......... fuck.

JDM Sil4ty

^^ wow ive learned soo much. has anyone ever seen a v10 inside of a s14?.. it wouldnt fit huh? loooks wayy too big.. but REAL Beastly .. just imagine a straight pipe on that mofo.. wow!

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atutt

You're welcome good sir.

I don't care that it's heavier. I just hate people posting misinformation. Or, not thinking before they post.

I'm all for crazy swaps..

I came across a few Viper motors locally.. I would have jumped all over any of them if I had the extra $5000 they wanted for just the motors..
But that also means switching to Mopar :P

indoz33

OMFG sooooooo sexy!!!!!! i think that v10 badge has to go tho...

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turboboost12004

silly ricers, muscle always wins....lol
my next project would be a turbo ford 302 stuffed in a 240.....

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!Zar!

That car does nothing for me.

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handinpants

excuse me atutt "You sir. Are a giant blundering oaf. (In other words, you're a fucking tool) And that goes for everyone else who thinks that." and calling me boy" i am pretty sure that you must not be from canada, because you my friend are an asshole, and the canadians i have met soo far are not like you, but then again, you might just be the exception.

the strange thing is, i never called you stupid nor did i insult you, you may only be 24, but you have a lot of growing up to do. I as the op of this thread, i am mearly quoting the specs of the gentleman who shelled out all the cash to have this project done, possible a monetary figure which your mcdonald's hourly wage, will NEVER come close to.

so you can continue to insult me, and what not. but deep down inside, we know you're struggling for attention, and we'll be here for you. but just to be a real dick, i'm gonna get you exact weight numbers so we can see if you're right... if you are right you should mail me a few boxes of those maple syrup cookies for being a dick to me.

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handinpants

true. i agree with you that i might be wrong, as i am sometimes ,I just don't agree that guy from canada. if he's soo cool, maybe he should get out his super cool nerd car scale and weight the viper motor and trans for us too. but as far as the weight for the 8.3l, if i am not mistaken it weighs 230kg, in canadia measurements that equals to what? i think around 500lbs or so, but the guy from canada will know the metric system better than us

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