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chetacheese · 08-20-2009, 10:09 AM

sorry guys if i missed this somewhere but couldnt find anything about it. i want to know what the difference is between both engines and if theres any visual indication as to what differs them both.

projectRDM · 08-21-2009, 01:51 PM

There's tons of info. You're not trying hard enough.

The easiest visual clue is the valve cover. S13 has three bolts down the middle, S14 has two. There's a dozen more. Search.

*DALAZ_68* · 08-21-2009, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by projectRDM

There's tons of info. You're not trying hard enough.

The easiest visual clue is the valve cover. S13 has three bolts down the middle, S14 has two. There's a dozen more. Search.

agreed...

another clue would be...temp sensor...

miggsfiggs · 08-21-2009, 02:10 PM

they dont use the same driveshaft,and one uses or comes with an electric fan

projectRDM · 08-21-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by miggsfiggs

they dont use the same driveshaft,and one uses or comes with an electric fan

Please don't post when you don't know. Both cars use an electric fan. However, since the guy was asking about differences in the engine, chassis related parts have no bearing on his question anyway.

Bigsyke · 08-21-2009, 03:52 PM

Cams are different, CAS, gear ratios, clutch pedal -yes chassis I know, valve cover, IM, intake, Exhaust manifold (s14 has the cat in the downpipe, and a resonator in place where the S13 cat is)

DreamN · 08-21-2009, 04:13 PM

gear ratios? that's a big negative bro.

projectRDM · 08-21-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamN

gear ratios? that's a big negative bro.

Indeed. So is the CAS, as the KA doesn't use a CAS, it uses a distributor. Cams are a change, but they're not visual.

So to kill this thread before even more stupid shit comes up:

valve cover
CTS
TPS
distributor
intake manifold
exhaust manifold

These are visual clues on the engine. That's what the kid asked for, quit with the parts that aren't even related. Sure you could say the seats are different too but that's pointless.

funes · 08-21-2009, 05:17 PM

another thing between the difference of those KA's:

the s13 have an extra spark plug wire from the coil to the distributor...

correct me if i am wrong...

EDIT: the s14 use a coil/distributor (2 in 1) or something like that so the s14 KA have only 4 spark plug wires and the s13 KA have 5 spark plug wires, also, the s13 have OBD1, 1995's s14's have OBD1 and 1996's to up have OBD2 ..

[email protected] · 08-21-2009, 05:24 PM

right. s14 ka has a coil built into the distributer
or some shit like that

projectRDM · 08-22-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by funes

another thing between the difference of those KA's:

the s13 have an extra spark plug wire from the coil to the distributor...

correct me if i am wrong...

EDIT: the s14 use a coil/distributor (2 in 1) or something like that so the s14 KA have only 4 spark plug wires and the s13 KA have 5 spark plug wires, also, the s13 have OBD1, 1995's s14's have OBD1 and 1996's to up have OBD2 ..

That's why it's said the distributor is different.

To clear up your garble, The S13 KA uses an external ignition coil. S14 KA is internal.

Bigsyke · 08-22-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DreamN

gear ratios? that's a big negative bro.

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectRDM

Indeed. So is the CAS, as the KA doesn't use a CAS, it uses a distributor. Cams are a change, but they're not visual.

So to kill this thread before even more stupid shit comes up:

valve cover
CTS
TPS
distributor
intake manifold
exhaust manifold

These are visual clues on the engine. That's what the kid asked for, quit with the parts that aren't even related. Sure you could say the seats are different too but that's pointless.

Crank position sensor on the bellhousing? My s13 trans didnt have one, my S14 did. Yes its not needed, but none the less

I couldve sworn pulling both gear assemblies out of the bellhousings the 2nd gear on the s13 is shorter if I recall.

funes · 08-22-2009, 02:38 PM

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To clear up your garble, The S13 KA uses an external ignition coil. S14 KA is internal.

thanks for clear me mate

projectRDM · 08-22-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsyke

Crank position sensor on the bellhousing? My s13 trans didnt have one, my S14 did. Yes its not needed, but none the less

I couldve sworn pulling both gear assemblies out of the bellhousings the 2nd gear on the s13 is shorter if I recall.

Fuck mang, you're killing us all. The OP asked about visual differences between engines. We could list every possible difference about every single part, true, but they're not answering the guy's question.

Clark W. Griswald · 08-23-2009, 07:48 PM

wow, gotta love the helpful attitudes and non elitist mentality among all the forum members. Really makes people want to contribute when you make them feel like shit for not knowing quite as much as you.

projectRDM · 08-23-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Clark W. Griswald

wow, gotta love the helpful attitudes and non elitist mentality among all the forum members. Really makes people want to contribute when you make them feel like shit for not knowing quite as much as you.

If you asked me a question that you really needed answered, and I provided an incorrect answer, an answer not even remotely related to your question, wouldn't that bother you?

Case in point, this entire thread.

If it takes belittling someone or making them feel like shit for posting incorrect, useless, or unrelated information, so be it. Maybe they'll learn from it and stay on point next time.

chetacheese · 08-24-2009, 04:07 PM

thanks projectRDM. you actually answered my question in your first response. only looking for differences between the two ka motors appearance wise. not the technical side. thanks for all your help though. i tried searching but all the keywords that will reveal my interest wouldnt fit in the search bar.

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miggsfiggs Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NoHoDistrict Age: 37 Posts: 179 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	they dont use the same driveshaft,and one uses or comes with an electric fan

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Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 36 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Cams are different, CAS, gear ratios, clutch pedal -yes chassis I know, valve cover, IM, intake, Exhaust manifold (s14 has the cat in the downpipe, and a resonator in place where the S13 cat is)

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DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	gear ratios? that's a big negative bro.

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funes Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: California 909/626/714/949 Age: 31 Posts: 163 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	another thing between the difference of those KA's: the s13 have an extra spark plug wire from the coil to the distributor... correct me if i am wrong... EDIT: the s14 use a coil/distributor (2 in 1) or something like that so the s14 KA have only 4 spark plug wires and the s13 KA have 5 spark plug wires, also, the s13 have OBD1, 1995's s14's have OBD1 and 1996's to up have OBD2 ..

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[email protected] Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Zacatecas, Mx; Paramount, Ca Age: 31 Posts: 1,626 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	right. s14 ka has a coil built into the distributer or some shit like that

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Clark W. Griswald Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hampton Raods Age: 35 Posts: 40 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow, gotta love the helpful attitudes and non elitist mentality among all the forum members. Really makes people want to contribute when you make them feel like shit for not knowing quite as much as you.

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chetacheese Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: in my car Posts: 752 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	thanks projectRDM. you actually answered my question in your first response. only looking for differences between the two ka motors appearance wise. not the technical side. thanks for all your help though. i tried searching but all the keywords that will reveal my interest wouldnt fit in the search bar.