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tiggertsi · 10-29-2013, 04:26 PM

ok so why the fuck is this not all over the national news. and why is this cops legs not broken by now?

Video: 22 Year Old With Down Syndrome Beaten By The Police For "Bulge In Pants" That Was Only A Colostomy Bag!

future · 10-29-2013, 04:39 PM

Speech less

Juantwo3 · 10-29-2013, 05:23 PM

its hard to remember that all cops are not a bunch of thugs with badges, especially when you see things like this.

mantas · 10-29-2013, 05:33 PM

Few weeks ago a crazy homeless guy scratched up my car, last night he came back threatening to blow my brains out and threatening to blow up my place. He was screaming my address and kept saying he knew where i lived. Last time he had a pair of scissors, this time god knows what. I feel no pity for the mentally ill, they need to be locked up, they are a danger to themselves and the rest of society. I had to stop myself from going outside to handle this crazy fuck, i have no idea why he keeps picking my place but if he comes back again and tries to confront me he is getting a major ass kicking on top of getting arrested again. Until you encounter one of them don't act like the cops are the ones to blame, these nut jobs fight back and do crazy stuff all the time, just wait till one of them pulls this stuff on you - you will change your mind about the subject. They simply need to be locked up.

tiggertsi · 10-29-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Juantwo3

its hard to remember that all cops are not a bunch of thugs with badges, especially when you see things like this.

no not all of them. i've had some awesome "runs-ins" with very good cops. also had a few that think their badges mean they have extra rights. but this is ridiculous. that whole community should surround that cops house and not allow him to go to work or surround the police station and protest like hell.

lately i've been asking any cop i see, or military person for that matter, if they've ever heard of the oathkeepers. and if anyone reading this is either ex or current military or law enforcement i would love for you to check out the oathkeepers as well.

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tiggertsi · 10-29-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mantas

Few weeks ago a crazy homeless guy scratched up my car, last night he came back threatening to blow my brains out and threatening to blow up my place. He was screaming my address and kept saying he knew where i lived. Last time he had a pair of scissors, this time god knows what. I feel no pity for the mentally ill, they need to be locked up, they are a danger to themselves and the rest of society. I had to stop myself from going outside to handle this crazy fuck, i have no idea why he keeps picking my place but if he comes back again and tries to confront me he is getting a major ass kicking on top of getting arrested again. Until you encounter one of them don't act like the cops are the ones to blame, these nut jobs fight back and do crazy stuff all the time, just wait till one of them pulls this stuff on you - you will change your mind about the subject. They simply need to be locked up.

dude you're an idiot, this was a man with downs syndrome and the cop is clearly to blame. and i've encountered plenty of people face to face that society would classify as mentally ill and engaged them in conversations and helped more than a few, almost all of them homeless and some of them clearly with severe mental issues and it hasn't "changed my mind" one bit. and your situation, if it is even real and not a troll, was a criminal destruction or vandalism of property and you had every right to defend your property and or call the police. you honestly think a man with downs syndrome deserves to get beaten almost to death because he has a colostomy bag?

mantas · 10-29-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggertsi

dude you're an idiot, this was a man with downs syndrome and the cop is clearly to blame. and i've encountered plenty of people face to face that society would classify as mentally ill and engaged them in conversations and helped more than a few, almost all of them homeless and some of them clearly with severe mental issues and it hasn't "changed my mind" one bit. and your situation, if it is even real and not a troll, was a criminal destruction or vandalism of property and you had every right to defend your property and or call the police. you honestly think a man with downs syndrome deserves to get beaten almost to death because he has a colostomy bag?

You are clearly the idiot. My point was quite clear, these people are unstable and you never know what they will pull on you. You just can't read between the lines. So unless you were there with and watched with your own eyes you don't know what this guy was doing, he was probably resisting, and i'm sure it's much harder to restrain someone that is mentally ill or has downs because their mind is not capable of comprehending orders, or at least not in a timely manner. They are slow you idiot. You ever try explaining something to a person with downs? Sometimes it's like going in circles.

imotion s14 · 10-29-2013, 06:33 PM

Downs isn't a mental illness, retard.

tiggertsi · 10-29-2013, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mantas

You are clearly the idiot. My point was quite clear, these people are unstable and you never know what they will pull on you. You just can't read between the lines. So unless you were there with and watched with your own eyes you don't know what this guy was doing, he was probably resisting, and i'm sure it's much harder to restrain someone that is mentally ill or has downs because their mind is not capable of comprehending orders, or at least not in a timely manner. They are slow you idiot. You ever try explaining something to a person with downs? Sometimes it's like going in circles.

you clearly have a mental illness. how many people with downs syndrome have you been around? saying they're unstable is ignorance, blatant ignorance. resisting or not there is no excuse to beat a man who clearly shows signs of having downs syndrome over a colostomy bag. besides there was a witness his mother and his father. i hope you have a child with downs syndrome so you'll know what's it like, obviously you don't. and i'd be more worried about someone like you being unstable after reading your comments. btw you are the first piece of shit since i've been on zilvia that goes on my ignore list, congratulations.

93_ProjectS13 · 10-29-2013, 06:45 PM

The reporter did say he was built.. Dude probably lifts. LOL! Seriously

Sisters brother is the same age and has DS. His temper does flare a lot. But if you have any kind of brain you can calm him with words.

Cop was probably a gun slinging rookie with no experience.

The family will be taken care of nicely im sure.

tiggertsi · 10-29-2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 93_ProjectS13

The reporter did say he was built.. Dude probably lifts. LOL! Seriously

the reporter and i quote "he's slightly built, he's only about five feet tall."

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Originally Posted by 93_ProjectS13

Sisters brother is the same age and has DS. His temper does flare a lot. But if you have any kind of brain you can calm him with words.

Cop was probably a gun slinging rookie with no experience.

The family will be taken care of nicely im sure.

it always depends with the severity of the DS and all with rages. even if he was resisting arrest if this cop couldn't subdue a man with downs syndrome without resorting to beating the shit out of him this cop doesn't deserve a badge and doesn't need to be in any situation that would expose him to the public. and i agree calm words would have more than likely stopped this situation before it became one.

cops have a hard job and there are lots of good cops out there. then there are assholes like this that make cops look bad when the majority of them aren't.

tiggertsi · 10-29-2013, 07:16 PM

that reminds me there used to be a guy that worked at sports seasons at the local mall near to where i live that had tourettes syndrome. and i mean it was very obvious that he had tourettes, he worked in the shoe section and i used to talk to him everytime i went in there. he would bend over backwards to help someone, unfortunately because of the TS alot of people avoided him like the plague. he was a good dude and just trying to make a living for himself, not unstable in anyway, tho most people probably thought otherwise. and i have to give props to the local store for hiring someone like that and understanding their "condition" enough to know that they could still function in the role they were given. i'd hate to see that guy get into a situation like this because of a stupid cop.

*brndck* · 10-29-2013, 07:19 PM

EVERY human is unstable and you don't know what they will pull.

The police mentality of "violence first, thinking later" needs to come to a stop.

ineedone · 10-30-2013, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mantas

I feel no pity for the mentally ill, they need to be locked up, they are a danger to themselves and the rest of society... Until you encounter one of them don't act like the cops are the ones to blame, these nut jobs fight back and do crazy stuff all the time, just wait till one of them pulls this stuff on you - you will change your mind about the subject. They simply need to be locked up.

Great point Hitler, the minute a child is diagnosed with any type of learning disorder or birth disorder lets lock them up. Hey, I got a better idea! Lets just torch them, you know, because it is not like they have any rights. I mean screw the whole idea of a civil society, a justice system, and all that constitutional bullshit. These people are just raving lunatics going around killing errrrbody up in dis bitch.

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Originally Posted by mantas

You are clearly the idiot. My point was quite clear, these people are unstable and you never know what they will pull on you. You just can't read between the lines. So unless you were there with and watched with your own eyes you don't know what this guy was doing, he was probably resisting, and i'm sure it's much harder to restrain someone that is mentally ill or has downs because their mind is not capable of comprehending orders, or at least not in a timely manner. They are slow you idiot. You ever try explaining something to a person with downs? Sometimes it's like going in circles.

Well, no. Try and educate your slow ass a bit man. Here, I will do the leg work for you The Reason I Jump : NPR

Fucking idiot.

stevenrapids · 10-30-2013, 09:58 AM

Stuff like this happens all the time and is just "swept under the media rug". It's a shame that the only thing people hear about is what national media deems fit. And as far as Mantas and his ignorant posts, you sir need to educate yourself. I would say people with DS are people that are a joy to be around for the most part. They are happy and have HUGE hearts. Its a shame you judge people like that.

double zero · 10-30-2013, 10:17 AM

fuck

the

police!!!

that's my take, thank you!!

mantas · 10-30-2013, 11:11 AM

Somehow you morons still missed my whole point.

*exitspeed* · 10-30-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mantas

Somehow you morons still missed my whole point.

Your point was that you've had a negative encounter with one person you perceive to be mentally ill and therefor they all should be locked up, correct? If that is incorrect please try and explain further.

mantas · 10-30-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Your point was that you've had a negative encounter with one person you perceive to be mentally ill and therefor they all should be locked up, correct? If that is incorrect please try and explain further.

Yes locked up. If no one is taking care of them they are a danger to themselves and to the rest of us. They are basically children - mentally ill that is. People with downs are not the mentally ill and i'm fully aware of it, but they are surprisingly strong. My friend had a sister who would take a hold of your arm or leg and would not let go, and my God she was strong for a 14 year old. You all act like i said it was totally fine to beat them up, you need to take into account that when cops beat these people up, its because they can't control them, and i'm sure in the middle of it all they sometimes lose it too. I'm not saying that's the case here or every scenario is the same, but until you deal with someone with downs you don't realize how much of a handful they are. I'm not supporting the beating in any way, i'm just saying the media twists things all the time, and it's not easy to control these people.

Frank_Jaeger · 10-30-2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mantas

Yes locked up. If no one is taking care of them they are a danger to themselves and to the rest of us. They are basically children - mentally ill that is. People with downs are not the mentally ill and i'm fully aware of it, but they are surprisingly strong. My friend had a sister who would take a hold of your arm or leg and would not let go, and my God she was strong for a 14 year old. You all act like i said it was totally fine to beat them up, you need to take into account that when cops beat these people up, its because they can't control them, and i'm sure in the middle of it all they sometimes lose it too. I'm not saying that's the case here or every scenario is the same, but until you deal with someone with downs you don't realize how much of a handful they are. I'm not supporting the beating in any way, i'm just saying the media twists things all the time, and it's not easy to control these people.

Back in my day trolling meant something.

tiggertsi · 10-30-2013, 04:27 PM

Officer who shoved woman with cerebral palsy to the ground could see suspension doubled - BC | Globalnews.ca

this is pretty screwed up as well. that cop should have his ass beat.

and now this cop should be applauded and commended read this, amazing really. we need more cops like this and with his attitude if we want to see these kind of criminal actions by police decline. there are bad cops, good cops and then are excellent cops like this man that should be role models for all of them to aspire to.
A Police Chief Tries To Reform The System From Within

BossHogg · 10-30-2013, 04:55 PM

Yea the world is crazy. Always will be. I have seen aggressive downs kids before. I remember at school(looooong time ago) the downs kids ate lunch during my period. I was pretty good friends with one. Would do his math homework for him since it was basically on my level lol. 70+25 isn't that hard. Now this other downs guy, was a big boy, didn't like my downs buddy. They were both asians, not sure if they had a genetic chinese/mongolian thing going or what. But he literally took his binder and frisbee tossed it down the length of the hallway. Now I went to a big high school not some small town thing. This level of binder tossage was easy olympic gold medal standards. I remember it to this day. I don't know if physics came together for that particular moment or what, but it was impressive.

I also remember one time we took volunteer's to share what we did over the weekend in front of class. My buddy Andy took his paper up there and read it giving us his full weekend. He came back to sit down, I looked at his paper, he only had his name written on it lolololol. He was a little bit more of a severe case than some of them.

lewisfk · 10-30-2013, 05:07 PM

[QUOTE=future;5460121]Speech less[/QUOTE

83roothm · 12-14-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mantas

Somehow you morons still missed my whole point.

You don't have a point in this thread you sick [email protected]#k. I see the generality of what you are trying to say, which is there are people with "psychological" issues that have three kids and beat their kids and wife next to a handle of vodka and scratch peoples cars in your case, but this is a man with a MENTAL ILLNESS NOT A PSYCOPATH. Only the people with down syndrome know what it could truly be like. You have no idea what is impaired, what goes through their head, or if they can control certain themselves with certain things. So before you embarrass yourself even more, just log out and think about the shit you just said you arrogant piece of sh*t.

Oh... and by the way, People with downsyndrome tend to be the NICEST people I have ever met. In most cases, they mean absolutely no harm.

*revat619* · 12-14-2013, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 83roothm

You don't have a point in this thread you sick [email protected]#k. I see the generality of what you are trying to say, which is there are people with "psychological" issues that have three kids and beat their kids and wife next to a handle of vodka and scratch peoples cars in your case, but this is a man with a MENTAL ILLNESS NOT A PSYCOPATH. Only the people with down syndrome know what it could truly be like. You have no idea what is impaired, what goes through their head, or if they can control certain themselves with certain things. So before you embarrass yourself even more, just log out and think about the shit you just said you arrogant piece of sh*t.

Oh... and by the way, People with downsyndrome tend to be the NICEST people I have ever met. In most cases, they mean absolutely no harm.

THIS.

There's a guy with down syndrome that goes to my church. One of the nicest people i have ever met too. Down syndrome isn't a mental instability...clown. It's a chromosomal abnormality. They're developmentally delayed. They're intellectually disabled to a certain degree (particularly with language and communication skills) but they're not stupid. You can't prescribe medication for down syndrome. It's not like schizophrenia, bi-polar, clinical depression, or whatever that jackass has that's harassing you and your family.

I've met more "normal" people with mental instability than any person who had a documented mental illness to be honest. Humans, in general, are unstable...

10-29-2013, 04:26 PM	#1
tiggertsi Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: TN Posts: 155 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	22 year old down syndrome man beat by police ok so why the fuck is this not all over the national news. and why is this cops legs not broken by now? Video: 22 Year Old With Down Syndrome Beaten By The Police For "Bulge In Pants" That Was Only A Colostomy Bag! __________________ 66 Plymouth Satellite, 96 Nissan 240sx, 03 Harley Sportster. Toys!

10-29-2013, 05:23 PM	#3
Juantwo3 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: DTFullerton Age: 30 Posts: 1,101 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	its hard to remember that all cops are not a bunch of thugs with badges, especially when you see things like this. __________________ GO DUCKS!!!!!!!!!

10-29-2013, 05:33 PM	#4
mantas Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: LALALAND Posts: 822 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Haven't looked into the link by my 2 cents Few weeks ago a crazy homeless guy scratched up my car, last night he came back threatening to blow my brains out and threatening to blow up my place. He was screaming my address and kept saying he knew where i lived. Last time he had a pair of scissors, this time god knows what. I feel no pity for the mentally ill, they need to be locked up, they are a danger to themselves and the rest of society. I had to stop myself from going outside to handle this crazy fuck, i have no idea why he keeps picking my place but if he comes back again and tries to confront me he is getting a major ass kicking on top of getting arrested again. Until you encounter one of them don't act like the cops are the ones to blame, these nut jobs fight back and do crazy stuff all the time, just wait till one of them pulls this stuff on you - you will change your mind about the subject. They simply need to be locked up.

10-29-2013, 07:16 PM	#12
tiggertsi Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: TN Posts: 155 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that reminds me there used to be a guy that worked at sports seasons at the local mall near to where i live that had tourettes syndrome. and i mean it was very obvious that he had tourettes, he worked in the shoe section and i used to talk to him everytime i went in there. he would bend over backwards to help someone, unfortunately because of the TS alot of people avoided him like the plague. he was a good dude and just trying to make a living for himself, not unstable in anyway, tho most people probably thought otherwise. and i have to give props to the local store for hiring someone like that and understanding their "condition" enough to know that they could still function in the role they were given. i'd hate to see that guy get into a situation like this because of a stupid cop. __________________ 66 Plymouth Satellite, 96 Nissan 240sx, 03 Harley Sportster. Toys!

10-30-2013, 09:58 AM	#15
stevenrapids Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Dayton, Oh Age: 29 Posts: 445 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Stuff like this happens all the time and is just "swept under the media rug". It's a shame that the only thing people hear about is what national media deems fit. And as far as Mantas and his ignorant posts, you sir need to educate yourself. I would say people with DS are people that are a joy to be around for the most part. They are happy and have HUGE hearts. Its a shame you judge people like that. __________________ [email protected]_fingers 350z for sale

10-29-2013, 06:33 PM	#8
imotion s14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston, TX Age: 40 Posts: 713 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Downs isn't a mental illness, retard.

10-29-2013, 06:45 PM	#10
93_ProjectS13 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	The reporter did say he was built.. Dude probably lifts. LOL! Seriously Sisters brother is the same age and has DS. His temper does flare a lot. But if you have any kind of brain you can calm him with words. Cop was probably a gun slinging rookie with no experience. The family will be taken care of nicely im sure.

10-30-2013, 10:17 AM	#16
double zero Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: madtown Age: 38 Posts: 185 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	fuck the police!!! that's my take, thank you!! __________________ Iam here for the free ethanol!

10-30-2013, 11:11 AM	#17
mantas Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: LALALAND Posts: 822 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Somehow you morons still missed my whole point.

10-30-2013, 04:27 PM	#21
tiggertsi Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: TN Posts: 155 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Officer who shoved woman with cerebral palsy to the ground could see suspension doubled - BC \| Globalnews.ca this is pretty screwed up as well. that cop should have his ass beat. and now this cop should be applauded and commended read this, amazing really. we need more cops like this and with his attitude if we want to see these kind of criminal actions by police decline. there are bad cops, good cops and then are excellent cops like this man that should be role models for all of them to aspire to. A Police Chief Tries To Reform The System From Within __________________ 66 Plymouth Satellite, 96 Nissan 240sx, 03 Harley Sportster. Toys!

10-30-2013, 04:55 PM	#22
BossHogg Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: america Posts: 998 Trader Rating: (16) Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Yea the world is crazy. Always will be. I have seen aggressive downs kids before. I remember at school(looooong time ago) the downs kids ate lunch during my period. I was pretty good friends with one. Would do his math homework for him since it was basically on my level lol. 70+25 isn't that hard. Now this other downs guy, was a big boy, didn't like my downs buddy. They were both asians, not sure if they had a genetic chinese/mongolian thing going or what. But he literally took his binder and frisbee tossed it down the length of the hallway. Now I went to a big high school not some small town thing. This level of binder tossage was easy olympic gold medal standards. I remember it to this day. I don't know if physics came together for that particular moment or what, but it was impressive. I also remember one time we took volunteer's to share what we did over the weekend in front of class. My buddy Andy took his paper up there and read it giving us his full weekend. He came back to sit down, I looked at his paper, he only had his name written on it lolololol. He was a little bit more of a severe case than some of them. __________________

10-30-2013, 05:07 PM	#23
lewisfk Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Austin, Texas Age: 40 Posts: 1,162 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Yep [QUOTE=future;5460121]Speech less[/QUOTE

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