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odi · 08-24-2009, 01:27 PM

Hey everyone,

I am eating through tires pretty fast and have observed that the very cheap tires die fast.

Most of my tires do not wear out gradually. They look like they get supper gummy and fall apart in patches.

I have tried the Federal 595 and have noticed that they grip much better and last longer than the some of the cheaper tires.

The grip from the Federals is good enough, is there anything out there that will last longer.

Thanks in advance.

Teknolust72 · 08-24-2009, 04:52 PM

You might want to mention what you are doing (drift or grip), and what your current alignment settings are.

wow-thats-a-cool-car · 08-24-2009, 05:05 PM

Nexen N3000...The tread-wear is 340

Where as the federal the tread-wear is 240

the higher the treadwear the less grip you have and the longer the tyre will last

nismolism · 08-24-2009, 05:13 PM

of couse cheap tires will wear out poorly espacialy if u try to race on them which they were not made for...when i had a poor suspension set up i compensated for some of the lag by using really good tires...what are u doing drift or grip?

airforceone451 · 08-24-2009, 05:19 PM

I think he might do rally and drift considering what's in his sig. I don't know if that's truthful or not though :\

xpertsnowcarver · 08-24-2009, 05:20 PM

There's some cheap Federal Formza (sp?) tires that have a treadwear of 420 or 460.. something like that.. only cost about $30/ tire new. lol. Might have been a sale at super autobacs at the time (now called autotoys).

NINJASPY · 08-24-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wow-thats-a-cool-car

Nexen N3000...The tread-wear is 340

Where as the federal the tread-wear is 240

the higher the treadwear the less grip you have and the longer the tyre will last

tread-wear rating is only comparable to same brand tires, and lower tread-wear rating does not mean more grip or vice versa. there are factors like tread depth, pattern, compound, sidewalls/belts and size.

I have seen nittos with 440 tread wear, those things were like rocks lol

odi · 08-24-2009, 05:44 PM

Thanks for the replies.

Sorry I forgot to mention that I am asking about tires for drift. I always assume everyone here is into drifting and forget about grip.

My rear alignment is about one degree negative (has been ok for Adams, I run 1/4 degree more on driver side there). Toe is about an 1/8" in. Stock arms that have been hacked and extended.

Anyway, appreciate the feedback and keep it coming. I am trying to stock up on tires for Horse Thief Mile this weekend.

Teknolust72 · 08-24-2009, 05:52 PM

Is there a particular reason why you have that amount of toe?

YoungGun · 08-24-2009, 06:08 PM

Nexen.

msglenth.

SUPERSTAR · 08-24-2009, 06:41 PM

You should not eat tires, they will make you sick in your tummy.

*Sonic Motor* · 08-24-2009, 06:47 PM

You should try the Wanli S1088. Good tread life and grippy. The Nexen will last forever, but it's kind of on the slippery side.

Sexxxyslide · 08-26-2009, 11:49 AM

I have ran the Nexen N3000 and they last super long....on a pair of rear I did 6 practice laps, and 8 comp lap at Seattle and they lasted all the way to the end....and still had about 30% life left and this was in my competition car. The grip is not an issue here as long as you know how to setup your suspension to where the tires works best with your driving style. Tread-wear is just a number that the tire people rate tires on their test course.

SUPERSTAR · 08-26-2009, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexxxyslide

Tread-wear is just a number that the tire people rate tires on their test course.

Correct and you can only compare it to the same manufacture.

So all those ratings (UTQG) do not cross over, say you compare the michelin and goodyear, it can not be used as a legit way to measure.

They only work in same manufactures lines.

slideways2004 · 08-26-2009, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTC SUPERSTAR

Correct and you can only compare it to the same manufacture.

So all those ratings (UTQG) do not cross over, say you compare the michelin and goodyear, it can not be used as a legit way to measure.

They only work in same manufactures lines.

THANK YOU!! Most people don't know or understand this. You can't compare 240 treadwear of a federal with a 400 treadwear of a Michelin.

***FaLKoN240*** · 08-26-2009, 01:55 PM

Why do you have such a CRAZY alignment setting. It's not drifting that is killing your tires, is that crazy toe setting.

dkwasherexd · 08-26-2009, 02:23 PM

yes nexens do last long, only thing bad is that they dont smoke as much

darkevildrifter · 08-26-2009, 07:52 PM

Dorel tires last for ever ..with about 100hp drifting

odi · 08-27-2009, 10:41 AM

What alignment are you guys setting? I have searched and found that in the rear for drift people are running 0-2 degrees of negative camber. People are running very different toe settings. Some are toe out a bit and some toe in as much as what I am running, 1/8". I like stability in the rear of my car, but I will try to run 0 toe.

Interesting to hear that Nexens last a while, I will try them out.

Thanks again for the input!

Sexxxyslide · 08-27-2009, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkwasherexd

yes nexens do last long, only thing bad is that they dont smoke as much

Nexen N3000 smokes....just drive harder..

NO PHOTO SHOP HERE!

fckillerbee · 08-27-2009, 11:56 AM

run zero toe in the rear. set your suspension up correct, and you will have grip. oh, and out of all the tires my KA has eaten....nexens last the longest. then there are other cheap brands...if you want smoke... up the psi!

dkwasherexd · 08-27-2009, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sexxxyslide

Nexen N3000 smokes....just drive harder..

NO PHOTO SHOP HERE!

I need more powa, only have 200hp , I think you have like 400

Brian · 08-27-2009, 02:11 PM

My 595s last a while.

I used one pair for the entire ASB weekend. (save for 2 or 3 laps at the end of SUnday

fckillerbee · 08-27-2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkwasherexd

I need more powa, only have 200hp , I think you have like 400

200 is still 60 more horses than what I have! watch the vrt video 2.1....those are nexens. KA POWA!!!

SUPERSTAR · 08-27-2009, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

My 595s last a while.

I used one pair for the entire ASB weekend. (save for 2 or 3 laps at the end of SUnday

Who are you?

Brian · 08-27-2009, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTC SUPERSTAR

Who are you?

a NOBODY.

SUPERSTAR · 08-27-2009, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

a NOBODY.

According to some Zilvia members. You are a DRIFT god, stuck in BH's body.

ZX88 · 08-27-2009, 04:51 PM

nexens smoke pretty nicely if you have more than 200hp. not so much with a ka.hhaaa

Brian · 08-27-2009, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTC SUPERSTAR

According to some Zilvia members. You are a DRIFT god, stuck in BH's body.

nope.

you heard wrong. sorry.

so sorry.

markapple0507 · 08-27-2009, 04:57 PM

Hold on now i heard it the other way around. BH stuck inside the Drifting gods body. either way its still cool lol

08-24-2009, 01:27 PM	#1
odi Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CA Age: 37 Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Longest Lasting Tires Hey everyone, I am eating through tires pretty fast and have observed that the very cheap tires die fast. Most of my tires do not wear out gradually. They look like they get supper gummy and fall apart in patches. I have tried the Federal 595 and have noticed that they grip much better and last longer than the some of the cheaper tires. The grip from the Federals is good enough, is there anything out there that will last longer. Thanks in advance. __________________ BakchisMotorsports.com

08-24-2009, 04:52 PM	#2
Teknolust72 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,748 Trader Rating: (40) Feedback Score: 40 reviews	You might want to mention what you are doing (drift or grip), and what your current alignment settings are. __________________

08-24-2009, 05:05 PM	#3
wow-thats-a-cool-car Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Posts: 2,663 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Nexen N3000...The tread-wear is 340 Where as the federal the tread-wear is 240 the higher the treadwear the less grip you have and the longer the tyre will last __________________

08-24-2009, 05:20 PM	#6
xpertsnowcarver Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: LA, CA Posts: 2,667 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	There's some cheap Federal Formza (sp?) tires that have a treadwear of 420 or 460.. something like that.. only cost about $30/ tire new. lol. Might have been a sale at super autobacs at the time (now called autotoys). __________________ My YouTube Channel

08-24-2009, 05:44 PM	#8
odi Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CA Age: 37 Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks for the replies. Sorry I forgot to mention that I am asking about tires for drift. I always assume everyone here is into drifting and forget about grip. My rear alignment is about one degree negative (has been ok for Adams, I run 1/4 degree more on driver side there). Toe is about an 1/8" in. Stock arms that have been hacked and extended. Anyway, appreciate the feedback and keep it coming. I am trying to stock up on tires for Horse Thief Mile this weekend. __________________ BakchisMotorsports.com

08-24-2009, 05:13 PM	#4
nismolism Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: "562" Posts: 275 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	of couse cheap tires will wear out poorly espacialy if u try to race on them which they were not made for...when i had a poor suspension set up i compensated for some of the lag by using really good tires...what are u doing drift or grip?

08-24-2009, 05:19 PM	#5
airforceone451 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NC Posts: 546 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I think he might do rally and drift considering what's in his sig. I don't know if that's truthful or not though :\

08-24-2009, 05:52 PM	#9
Teknolust72 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,748 Trader Rating: (40) Feedback Score: 40 reviews	Is there a particular reason why you have that amount of toe? __________________

08-24-2009, 06:08 PM	#10
YoungGun Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: 818-951 SoCal Posts: 3,961 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Nexen. msglenth.

08-24-2009, 06:41 PM	#11
SUPERSTAR Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Orange Socal** Age: 46 Posts: 6,413 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	You should not eat tires, they will make you sick in your tummy. __________________ *"ARE YOU ONE'EM SKID RACERS?"*

08-24-2009, 06:47 PM	#12
Sonic Motor www.SonicMotor.com Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: 4981 N Irwindale Ave #100, Irwindale, CA Posts: 9,481 Trader Rating: (113) Feedback Score: 113 reviews	You should try the Wanli S1088. Good tread life and grippy. The Nexen will last forever, but it's kind of on the slippery side. __________________ Sonicmotor.com \| Zach @ Sonic Motor \| 626.363.9036 \| [email protected] Check out our website! ( CLICK )

08-26-2009, 11:49 AM	#13
Sexxxyslide Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Murrieta/Temecula Age: 37 Posts: 404 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	I have ran the Nexen N3000 and they last super long....on a pair of rear I did 6 practice laps, and 8 comp lap at Seattle and they lasted all the way to the end....and still had about 30% life left and this was in my competition car. The grip is not an issue here as long as you know how to setup your suspension to where the tires works best with your driving style. Tread-wear is just a number that the tire people rate tires on their test course.

08-26-2009, 01:55 PM	#16
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 16,761 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	Why do you have such a CRAZY alignment setting. It's not drifting that is killing your tires, is that crazy toe setting. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

08-26-2009, 02:23 PM	#17
dkwasherexd Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: socal/626 Age: 32 Posts: 625 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	yes nexens do last long, only thing bad is that they dont smoke as much __________________ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Garage...15739035172956

08-26-2009, 07:52 PM	#18
darkevildrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: City of Buttholes!!!!!!!!!!! Age: 38 Posts: 724 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Dorel tires last for ever ..with about 100hp drifting __________________

08-27-2009, 10:41 AM	#19
odi Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CA Age: 37 Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What alignment are you guys setting? I have searched and found that in the rear for drift people are running 0-2 degrees of negative camber. People are running very different toe settings. Some are toe out a bit and some toe in as much as what I am running, 1/8". I like stability in the rear of my car, but I will try to run 0 toe. Interesting to hear that Nexens last a while, I will try them out. Thanks again for the input! __________________ BakchisMotorsports.com

08-27-2009, 11:56 AM	#21
fckillerbee Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern California Age: 36 Posts: 4,266 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	run zero toe in the rear. set your suspension up correct, and you will have grip. oh, and out of all the tires my KA has eaten....nexens last the longest. then there are other cheap brands...if you want smoke... up the psi!

08-27-2009, 02:11 PM	#23
Brian Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: usa Posts: 12,840 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: Brian Feedback Score: 54 reviews	My 595s last a while. I used one pair for the entire ASB weekend. (save for 2 or 3 laps at the end of SUnday __________________ http://bhworld.wordpress.com/

08-27-2009, 04:51 PM	#28
ZX88 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: ATX Age: 32 Posts: 2,946 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	nexens smoke pretty nicely if you have more than 200hp. not so much with a ka.hhaaa __________________ SNOW PANTS OR NO PANTS.

08-27-2009, 04:57 PM	#30
markapple0507 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Age: 31 Posts: 189 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Hold on now i heard it the other way around. BH stuck inside the Drifting gods body. either way its still cool lol

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