RedlineRacer

I've talked to honda people about SSautochrome, since they have been making a turbo manifold for those for a long time, and they said they aren't the greatest quality manifolds. They tend to crack fairly easily. But this is just hear say, take with stride.

AceInHole

the same goes for the SR manifolds. they crack at the head flange and the collector.

mine is getting rewelded anyways on the KA retrofit, but the guy doing the welding (very good, very experienced) said the welds actually look pretty good on it, and the piping is pretty decent. guess we'll see how it goes.

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AceInHole

not good but doable, especially if you've got access to a torch and a very powerful TIG welder.

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95Blue240sx

IMHO if you really want a reliable manifold, you'd have to use 321 stainless steel. this stuff is strong!! garunteed not to crack. i think why 240 people complain about cracking is because we dont want to pay the $$ for the right material.

but dont take this to the heart. i mean im going to be using a revhard.

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sykikchimp

I just think all the attention the KA is getting is great!..

It's getting simpler, and simpler just to go KA-T.

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mbmbmb23

I agree that 321 ss is better, but if I'm not mistaken, it's the welds that are cracking, not the actual metal tubing. I'd think that a well built 302 SS manifold would be alot better than a poorly welded 321 SS manifold. I'd be willing to bet that even an OBX made of 321 SS would crack just the same.

Anyhow.....here's a link I've used to check out SS.

http://www.burnsstainless.com/321tubing/321tubing.html



-m

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kaje36

ok just got back from the welder, I was realy concered with thow good the guy might be, but he builds titanium reclined racing bikes, and has the most amazing welds I have ever seen.

we got everything tacked into place, the runners on the SScrome fit VERY nicely, I got to do a little porting when I get the mani back, but oh well. he also said the welds were very good on the SScrome. but as far as clearance issues,. I couldnt even come close to seeing one, there is so much room all around it its silly. I could cock the turbo 15 degrees towards the block and still be good. the ONLY issue I saw could be if you but in a t66 turbo or something realy large, and that would be from hitting the motor mount.

I was able to set the T3 flange were I wanted, so I wil have NO issues with a down pipe. it looks to me like it will be on 90 degree bend right down into the exshaust.

when putting the mani on I had to squeaze it past the lines on my Z32 slave cilinder but that was just to get it onto the studs, after that it was fine.

$150 for SScrome SR mani
$100 for KA/T3 flanges ( I spent a little more then this.. but I was stupid and could have goten them cheaper )
I havent goten the price from the welder, but he saie $50 an hour, and I am guessing no more then 3 hours.

I will see about finding a camera and geting pics when I get the mani back later this weekend

Mark

GoKu

^^ I thought you acutally bought the KA24DE manifold SSauto is comming out ,I guess I miss the part of using the SR mani and hack the Flanges for a KA .. but isnt the SR ports rounder Vs the Square KA ports? all in all the ETD racing manifold looks quite less troublesome and the price is right.

Off topic ..I have given up on my U13 Altima , Now its time to search for a S13 couple or S14 and Turbo the hell out of the KA.

95Blue240sx

Jeff - just curious if you made the ports on your RH mani, square. i got my manifold sitting here just wondering if i should square them out.

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AceInHole

i just got the turbo so i bolted everything together to compare the flange locations to the stock KA header and it looks almost identical!! i'm wondering if asad's measurements were just really off, or if the SR is just offset or something.

anyways, looks now like i'll just have to reflange the SS autochrome manifold and everything should work together perfectly!! as far as the difference in port shapes, it would definitely be possible to heat up and square off the stainless steel runners. can't wait to get this sucker on!!

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kaje36

the runners mate perfectly with the flange that I got... but I overpayed so it is probly junk ^_^ hehe but I will be porting it to smoth everything out, and I got Ace's old extra head so I will use that and figure out how everything mates

Mark

fastpace

I was wondering if anybody has tried or know anybody that is using the real nissan ka turbo manifolds? I haven't heard anybody talk about these ones. They sell I believe a tubular one and a cast iron version of the tubular one.

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meme

if anyone wants this i can get them for 350.





they are the same as the one from http://www.import-autoperformance.co...ccessories.htm


i'm going to make a turbo outlet that connects to a silvia style downpipe..

mbmbmb23

Do you have one for sale for $350 or can you get a number of them for $350 each?? How similar are those to the import-autoperformance?? Does the same person make them?? If so I may definately be interested.


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meme

yeah they are from the same place. i have 1 right now. and 2 more coming.

AceInHole

is it just me or does it look like that manifold places the turbine really really close to the brake MC?

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meme

i have not test fit it yet. but it is the exact same manifold from import-autoperformance. so if anyone has this manifold mounted please post pics.

GoKu

wow Meme $350 shipped? that manifold looks perfect for the Altimas engine bay ..is that for a t3- or t4 flange on it ?

kaje36

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287855733

you all have been waiting... the SR SScrome Manifold on a KA. I was talking to the welder and he was saying some of the spots were a little hard to weld becouse there wasnt enuph room, but he was able to get at them from the inside. but the manifold fits well. and I cant wait to get my oil lines to start boostin.

the only fiting issues I do have all has to do with the internal wastegate.. or more properly the acuator on the outside.. to get that to fit puts my copoling a little close to the exhaust for my taste, and puting the many and turbo in together it was a little hard to get past the AC line.

Mark

meme

wow that is nice..what material is the SS manifold?

the manifold i have for sale is 350+ about 13 for shipping

kaje36

304 Stainless steel

I spent about $150 for the SR manifold, and $125 for the welding, then flanges, should be able to find thows cheaper then I did

crioten

will that flange work with a T3/04E turbo? is it bottom or top mount? will you have access to get them anytime, or is this a one time deal?

id really like to get one of those...

-glen

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GoKu

damn kaje36 ...My uncle shop in TX owns Pro-1 Top speed , I belive OBX and PRO-1 all get there stuff in tawian ,so those stainless steel headers/manifold are pretty much the same ..with differnt stamps...now I know which SR manifold you did , so you pretty much pick up the exhuast flange and reweld it ? but how about the ports? the SR are more rounder than the squarish KA ...did you manage to correct that? is your car up and running ?

also meme ..how long til you stock up on those manifolds? 13 shipping? that sounds good I might have to go for that instead of the ETD manifold, the SSautochrome for the KAs are nice and all but no answer or feedbacks, and im getting impatient of waiting.

kaje36

the flange I had had round ports on one aide and square on the other. so there wasnt realy a need to reshape. All I did was cut the flanges off, take my car to the welder so we could test fit when he was tacking the flanges on. and he finished welding it wednesday morening.

My car Isnt up and running yet.. I am waiting on my oil lines.. they should be here soon.

Mark

GoKu

meme what material is the IAP manifold made of ?

kaje36 ..good luck ..let us know how it is running...


FINALLY more options than the F-max ,RH and JGS , this is a great information and great news to me as I have more options open

meme

it is steel. don't know the thickness. but it is pretty thick. the ports on this manifold are round. i guess they just squeezed the pipe into the port.

AceInHole

There's no need to reshape, but it's easy enough that you should. It would also make the #3 and #4 runner welds easier to do.

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GoKu

KAT guys isscuss which manifold would you choose?

RH manifold

or meme IAP manifold with longer runners?

I will be running a t3-60-1 ,So would you say the longer runners take time to spool or the shorter style of the Rev Hard ? im open to suggestion,discussion... Thank you

fastpace

I am leaning towards shorter runners. like a realnissan manifold. like the quality and options that they have for the price.

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AceInHole

small update on the KA flanged SS autochrome manifold:

the flange swap is pretty easy. The only problem was with squaring off the runners, since doing so compresses them more, and expanding a square pipe isn't exactly easy. The way we did it was to run the piping into the flange, weld one side, and hammer the other side till it was flush with the flange. The runners ended up looking very nice:


As for fitment, a quick comparison to the stock header shows they're very similar (if not perfectly):


One can only assume that since the downpipes should match, the intake piping also should, which then means SR intercooler kits should fit this setup (at least using an S13 cold pipe to meet the KA's TB). Still waiting on oil lines to install, since my Mitsubishi oil fitting uses a different thread.

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