Quick ratio manual steering racks. Who wants them? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

blu808 · 06-02-2008, 05:17 PM

Trying to gauge interest.

Would you zilvians be interested in quick ratio steering racks?

Benefits:
Fast correction
Reduced steering imput
deletion of entire power steering system 28 lbs savings.
no core charge
different travel rates (increased steering angle)
free up power (no ps belt)
one less thing to leak

Detriments:
hard to turn when stopped
would be twitchy for everyday driving (sens steering input)
cost?

So let me know if you guys would be interested.
Thanks.
Luke

steve_o1989 · 06-02-2008, 05:21 PM

There was a group buy a while back to get a batch of these made up. If I remember correctly though, those ones would need a spacer made up because the rack was not as big in diameter as the original. I don't know if the group buy even went through.

It would be cool if someone stocked a manual steering rack for the S chassis.

90hatchie · 06-02-2008, 06:56 PM

i never seen any over 300 bucks....
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/2030...Quickener.html
reccomended by the guys at ziptied

blu808 · 06-03-2008, 02:53 AM

Yea. We used one of these on the jasper supra.

Seemed to work well.

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/7732...Quickener.html

*downshift_sideways* · 06-04-2008, 03:52 AM

Do you have a model / test car?

if you would let me drive it, I'll get one if I like the feeling.

(just DD drive is what I mean.)

a_ahmed · 06-04-2008, 06:38 AM

I wish I could try one of these steering quickeners..

I just bought a refurbished/new hicas rack from frsport........ i already have a hicas rack but its 20 years old haha.. so time for a change... but damn... i paid alot

Never driven a car with steering quickener, although I'd like to get a feel for it....

JohnD1079 · 06-04-2008, 06:56 AM

I would be interested. Doesnt the 300zx rack have quicker ratios?

drift freaq · 06-04-2008, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by a_ahmed

I wish I could try one of these steering quickeners..

I just bought a refurbished/new hicas rack from frsport........ i already have a hicas rack but its 20 years old haha.. so time for a change... but damn... i paid alot

Never driven a car with steering quickener, although I'd like to get a feel for it....

Make sure they sold you a real hicas rack and not a refurbed stock one. A lot of shops sell refurbed stock ones as Hicas because they cannot tell the difference. I know for a fact that Hicas racks are rare and most rebuilders have them on their books but when you order one its a stock rack. Look at your Hicas rack there will be different casting numbers vs the non hicas rack. If the refurb has the same casting numbers its a hicas otherwise its not.

On topic, Luke this is interesting but I am not sure how many people are going to want to spend the cash for the setup your thinking of doing.

singlecamslam · 06-04-2008, 11:23 AM

i would be interested in manual steering, loved it on my corolla and only cost be 220 brand new with inner tie rods.

a_ahmed · 06-04-2008, 12:32 PM

Well it was from fr sport... they have a good reputation no? I mean there is a 200$ difference between the hicas and non hicas refurb/new sale on their site.. so wtf... that would be a big blow to their customer service/quality if they were doing that... I can't verify for a long time as I still have to take apart my car... I'm just on project pause right now, 240 sitting/sleeping...

GSXRJJordan · 06-12-2008, 02:42 AM

Dave's absolutely right, the HICAS racks are rare as f*ck.

I run no P/s, and don't mind the parking effort and what not... I've got pretty big forearms lol. If we could get a good rack (fits correctly, strong, etc) with a quicker ratio, I wouldn't mind payin a couple hundred for it. I know the racks themselves are not that expensive...

Then again, P/s is nice, and cheaper. Just a pain in the ass/etc to get a non-working system together and working.

GSXRJJordan · 06-25-2008, 12:58 PM

Luke what's the deal with these? My steering rack is taking a dump, and I'm not sure I want it rebuilt if you're gonna come out with 'da new steering hotness'.

blu808 · 07-27-2008, 02:52 AM

Working the numbers man. Looks like no one wants to eliminate a complete hydro system from their car.

i would jump at the chance for the weight savings, heat savings, engine bay space savings, and possibility of breakage.

The more shit you have the more shit there is to break.

I will let ya know.

Might just have to use a quick steer gearbox.

slothonaleash · 07-27-2008, 11:03 AM

I am DONE messing around with trying to get ps to work....

I would LOVE to see a completely manual rack go into production for cheap, cause pushing all that fluid around is not always easy for someone of my muscular abilities.

I'm also poor.

tracks13 · 07-27-2008, 01:23 PM

I'd be interested in this as well. IF anything happens.

Also someone said hicas racks are rare but frsport sells rebuilt ones even though it is about 500.

Ds14 · 07-29-2008, 08:53 PM

interested. ps is busted and i'd rather go manual anyway.

-deks

singlecamslam · 07-29-2008, 09:11 PM

My rack and pinion actually just took a dump on me, so i would love for this to happen.

RurouniMidnight · 08-15-2008, 03:54 PM

Yes id be down to my rack has been busted up and leaky for a while and i don't feel like getting a refurbed one right now and less stuff to deal with is always good.

0100 · 08-17-2008, 02:57 AM

Any word on this? I would buy one if under $300.

LongGrain · 08-17-2008, 02:48 PM

sounds like a cool idea

i would definitely have to drive one first, ive driven my friends s13 without power steering, and my own when i had to remove my PS belt, i absolutely hated it, especially with a 330mm wheel. i couldnt even imagine drifting like that.

manual one should be better though

alexander500 · 08-29-2008, 09:42 PM

I was jocking hard to get the group buy to go through, but it didn't happen. I really want/need one of these. I have been rocking a drained and pluged power rack for a while and have really learned to like it. It did not take long to get used to and it is not impossible to drift with manual steeing.

WISH ONE · 08-30-2008, 04:42 PM

id be down also. im sick of leaking ps fluid all over from busted lines.

tt99ol · 08-31-2008, 11:47 PM

i would like it for $300 or less
or even a little more if it adds alot of steering angle
like the powered by max spindle mod
I'm going to get that and thats $400
unless i can get the same angle and less weight for $300
it sounds like a good idea though, and throw in some solid rack bushings too
or just machine the rack to bolt right in without bushings at all

JRas · 09-18-2008, 12:02 AM

just sell refurbished HICAS racks

sac · 09-23-2008, 12:11 AM

HELL YA i would!!

But i want your ls14 turbo kit first..

Kuzumi · 10-10-2008, 03:07 PM

i would purchase it in a hearbeat.

hotlavaflow · 10-11-2008, 10:11 AM

What's going on with this?

GSXRJJordan · 11-01-2008, 12:16 AM

Absolutely nothing. I think Luke gave up on it :/

hotlavaflow · 11-01-2008, 04:51 AM

Awww that sucks I need one of these.

sillyvia13 · 11-01-2008, 07:47 AM

hicas rack ftw

View Poll Results: Would you purchase a quick ratio manual steering rack?
Hell yea. If its around $300 or less	115	63.54%
No. why bother?	10	5.52%
I want one even if its around $500	11	6.08%
I would rather have power steering.	45	24.86%
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06-02-2008, 05:17 PM	#1
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Quick ratio manual steering racks. Who wants them? Trying to gauge interest. Would you zilvians be interested in quick ratio steering racks? Benefits: Fast correction Reduced steering imput deletion of entire power steering system 28 lbs savings. no core charge different travel rates (increased steering angle) free up power (no ps belt) one less thing to leak Detriments: hard to turn when stopped would be twitchy for everyday driving (sens steering input) cost? So let me know if you guys would be interested. Thanks. Luke __________________

06-02-2008, 05:21 PM	#2
steve_o1989 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Regina, SK Age: 31 Posts: 541 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	There was a group buy a while back to get a batch of these made up. If I remember correctly though, those ones would need a spacer made up because the rack was not as big in diameter as the original. I don't know if the group buy even went through. It would be cool if someone stocked a manual steering rack for the S chassis. __________________ 1997 240sx SE 1998 Frontier SE 1990 240sx Coupe - Sold 1992 Talon Tsi - Sold

06-02-2008, 06:56 PM	#3
90hatchie Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: yorktown hts ny Age: 32 Posts: 2,984 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	i never seen any over 300 bucks.... http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/2030...Quickener.html reccomended by the guys at ziptied Last edited by 90hatchie; 06-02-2008 at 11:25 PM..

06-03-2008, 02:53 AM	#4
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Yea. We used one of these on the jasper supra. Seemed to work well. http://www.speedwaymotors.com/p/7732...Quickener.html __________________

06-04-2008, 03:52 AM	#5
downshift_sideways No Limit Soldier. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hayward CA, San Gabriel CA Age: 34 Posts: 5,550 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Do you have a model / test car? if you would let me drive it, I'll get one if I like the feeling. (just DD drive is what I mean.) __________________ allntrlundrgrnd: "you never really appreciate your parents fridge until you look into your own and its full of condiments only"

06-04-2008, 06:38 AM	#6
a_ahmed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 749 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: a_ahmed Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wish I could try one of these steering quickeners.. I just bought a refurbished/new hicas rack from frsport........ i already have a hicas rack but its 20 years old haha.. so time for a change... but damn... i paid alot Never driven a car with steering quickener, although I'd like to get a feel for it....

06-04-2008, 06:56 AM	#7
JohnD1079 Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2007 Location: Philla Area Age: 31 Posts: 55 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I would be interested. Doesnt the 300zx rack have quicker ratios?

06-04-2008, 11:23 AM	#9
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,531 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	i would be interested in manual steering, loved it on my corolla and only cost be 220 brand new with inner tie rods. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

06-04-2008, 12:32 PM	#10
a_ahmed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oakville, Ontario Posts: 749 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: a_ahmed Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well it was from fr sport... they have a good reputation no? I mean there is a 200$ difference between the hicas and non hicas refurb/new sale on their site.. so wtf... that would be a big blow to their customer service/quality if they were doing that... I can't verify for a long time as I still have to take apart my car... I'm just on project pause right now, 240 sitting/sleeping...

06-12-2008, 02:42 AM	#11
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Dave's absolutely right, the HICAS racks are rare as fck. I run no P/s, and don't mind the parking effort and what not... I've got pretty big forearms lol. If we could get a good rack (fits correctly, strong, etc) with a quicker ratio, I wouldn't mind payin a couple hundred for it. I know the racks themselves are not that expensive... Then again, P/s is nice, and cheaper. Just a pain in the ass/etc to get a non-working system together and working. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site!* www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

06-25-2008, 12:58 PM	#12
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Luke what's the deal with these? My steering rack is taking a dump, and I'm not sure I want it rebuilt if you're gonna come out with 'da new steering hotness'. __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

07-27-2008, 02:52 AM	#13
blu808 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Campbell, Ca Age: 38 Posts: 5,010 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Working the numbers man. Looks like no one wants to eliminate a complete hydro system from their car. i would jump at the chance for the weight savings, heat savings, engine bay space savings, and possibility of breakage. The more shit you have the more shit there is to break. I will let ya know. Might just have to use a quick steer gearbox. __________________

07-27-2008, 11:03 AM	#14
slothonaleash Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 29 Posts: 745 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	I am DONE messing around with trying to get ps to work.... I would LOVE to see a completely manual rack go into production for cheap, cause pushing all that fluid around is not always easy for someone of my muscular abilities. I'm also poor.

07-27-2008, 01:23 PM	#15
tracks13 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 36 Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'd be interested in this as well. IF anything happens. Also someone said hicas racks are rare but frsport sells rebuilt ones even though it is about 500.

07-29-2008, 08:53 PM	#16
Ds14 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 305 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	interested. ps is busted and i'd rather go manual anyway. -deks

07-29-2008, 09:11 PM	#17
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,531 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	My rack and pinion actually just took a dump on me, so i would love for this to happen. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

08-15-2008, 03:54 PM	#18
RurouniMidnight Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston TX Age: 38 Posts: 1,245 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Yes id be down to my rack has been busted up and leaky for a while and i don't feel like getting a refurbed one right now and less stuff to deal with is always good. __________________ http://nightparade.wordpress.com/ Join in on instagram @nightparade

08-17-2008, 02:57 AM	#19
0100 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New England Posts: 1,581 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Any word on this? I would buy one if under $300. __________________ TougeHero.com l SilviaV8forums.com

08-17-2008, 02:48 PM	#20
LongGrain Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,741 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	sounds like a cool idea i would definitely have to drive one first, ive driven my friends s13 without power steering, and my own when i had to remove my PS belt, i absolutely hated it, especially with a 330mm wheel. i couldnt even imagine drifting like that. manual one should be better though

08-29-2008, 09:42 PM	#21
alexander500 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 299 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	I was jocking hard to get the group buy to go through, but it didn't happen. I really want/need one of these. I have been rocking a drained and pluged power rack for a while and have really learned to like it. It did not take long to get used to and it is not impossible to drift with manual steeing.

08-30-2008, 04:42 PM	#22
WISH ONE Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: orange county ca Posts: 2,738 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	id be down also. im sick of leaking ps fluid all over from busted lines. __________________ PARTING/SELLING MY COUPE. PM ME.

08-31-2008, 11:47 PM	#23
tt99ol Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: quartz hill CA Age: 34 Posts: 644 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	i would like it for $300 or less or even a little more if it adds alot of steering angle like the powered by max spindle mod I'm going to get that and thats $400 unless i can get the same angle and less weight for $300 it sounds like a good idea though, and throw in some solid rack bushings too or just machine the rack to bolt right in without bushings at all __________________ Need automotive work done in the antelope valley? Ask me how i can help.

09-18-2008, 12:02 AM	#24
JRas Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 32 Posts: 1,503 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	just sell refurbished HICAS racks __________________

09-23-2008, 12:11 AM	#25
sac Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The SLC, Utah Age: 36 Posts: 794 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	HELL YA i would!! But i want your ls14 turbo kit first.. __________________ 99rs coupe Currently Collecting parts for STi swap Last edited by sac; 10-12-2008 at 08:36 AM..

10-10-2008, 03:07 PM	#26
Kuzumi Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Minecraftia! Posts: 753 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i would purchase it in a hearbeat. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1127316777

10-11-2008, 10:11 AM	#27
hotlavaflow Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: BKLYN NYC Posts: 1,263 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	What's going on with this? __________________

11-01-2008, 12:16 AM	#28
GSXRJJordan Post Whore! Join Date: May 2006 Location: << 626 >> Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: GSXRJJordan Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Absolutely nothing. I think Luke gave up on it :/ __________________ Jordan Innovations has a new web site! www.JordanInnovations.com -- All your favorite FD Pro Drifters love it, trust me -- www.JordanInnovations.com

11-01-2008, 04:51 AM	#29
hotlavaflow Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: BKLYN NYC Posts: 1,263 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Awww that sucks I need one of these. __________________

11-01-2008, 07:47 AM	#30
sillyvia13 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: nh Posts: 1,645 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	hicas rack ftw

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