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zilvialatorre · 11-13-2008, 11:14 PM

i just bought a B&M short shifter and installed it.
my question is...why is it so hard/tough/heavy to shift
but its short shift ..is good !!!! i installed it properly.....
i did not remove the plastic cover of the ball point on the other end
of the shifter that goes in the bottom..... its not like shifting smooth
and light....is that normal for a stock tranny....flywheel and clutch ?
what should i do to make the shifting light and easy...? it feels like evrytime i shift its heavy and little hard......but always falls on right gear(noprob) its just that its not easy and light.....

thanks for the advice

SochBAT · 11-14-2008, 12:07 AM

Yea. A short shifter makes things a bit more precise and tight. Its more of an effort to put it in because the overall 'height' is reduced and thus require more force.

In other words, because its shorter in height, you lose the leverage of a taller stock shifter.

g6civcx · 12-06-2008, 09:13 AM

Assuming the installation was proper, this is why:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soooshi

Yea. A short shifter makes things a bit more precise and tight. Its more of an effort to put it in because the overall 'height' is reduced and thus require more force.

In other words, because its shorter in height, you lose the leverage of a taller stock shifter.

Propaganda · 11-14-2008, 09:56 AM

I have a B&M with a Shifter collar and it feels tight as hell, but I don't think it should feel "heavy." My B&M is shorter throw with same effort, unless you guys have super sensitive hands

Maybe you installed it backwards?

mobilesuit818 · 11-14-2008, 10:19 PM

It might be your clutch system.

Try bleeding the clutch pedal.

Was it hard before you installed the BM?

jsxr14s · 12-05-2008, 04:03 AM

I just bought a 96 s14 base with a B&M short shifter installed, and there is a not so loud, but noticeable whistling in that area. any help?

g6civcx · 12-06-2008, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsxr14s

I just bought a 96 s14 base with a B&M short shifter installed, and there is a not so loud, but noticeable whistling in that area. any help?

Check that the seal is tight. Compare the short shifter with the stock shifter. Notice how the stock shifter is a little wider at the base where it meets the trans hump. The short shifter may not be sealing completely and leaving an air gap = noise.

You can try realigning your shifter and make sure all the parts (gaskets, seals, etc.) are there.

If nothing else you can try to seal up the gap(s) with some tape.

cwallace12 · 12-06-2008, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsxr14s

I just bought a 96 s14 base with a B&M short shifter installed, and there is a not so loud, but noticeable whistling in that area. any help?

Just a shot in the dark but check to make sure that the rubber boot is installed. When I changed my clutch and tested it out without the boot on it made a similar sound.

jsxr14s · 12-10-2008, 08:10 AM

Thanks for the responses, I'll look into all of that

TravisSW · 12-10-2008, 08:15 AM

That's how short shifters are.

I can actually turn my shifter off/adjust the height and make it feel like a stocky haha.

The Chad · 12-10-2008, 09:27 AM

Yeah man, it took me a while to get used to the B&M over stock. I did put a bigger Slave Cyl in when i did the swap though...but that only helps with pedal feel not the throw of the shifter.

Check to make sure nothing is wedged in there maybe...a dead mouse or something haha

11-13-2008, 11:14 PM	#1
zilvialatorre Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Norwalk Posts: 118 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	short shifter tough and heavy to shift? i just bought a B&M short shifter and installed it. my question is...why is it so hard/tough/heavy to shift but its short shift ..is good !!!! i installed it properly..... i did not remove the plastic cover of the ball point on the other end of the shifter that goes in the bottom..... its not like shifting smooth and light....is that normal for a stock tranny....flywheel and clutch ? what should i do to make the shifting light and easy...? it feels like evrytime i shift its heavy and little hard......but always falls on right gear(noprob) its just that its not easy and light..... thanks for the advice

12-10-2008, 08:15 AM	#10
TravisSW Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Age: 37 Posts: 2,071 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	That's how short shifters are. I can actually turn my shifter off/adjust the height and make it feel like a stocky haha. __________________ 1986 Porsche 944 Turbo (951) 1995 Nissan 240sx (S14) Miss ya.

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11-14-2008, 12:07 AM	#2
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Yea. A short shifter makes things a bit more precise and tight. Its more of an effort to put it in because the overall 'height' is reduced and thus require more force. In other words, because its shorter in height, you lose the leverage of a taller stock shifter.

11-14-2008, 09:56 AM	#4
Propaganda Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 34 Posts: 451 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I have a B&M with a Shifter collar and it feels tight as hell, but I don't think it should feel "heavy." My B&M is shorter throw with same effort, unless you guys have super sensitive hands Maybe you installed it backwards?

11-14-2008, 10:19 PM	#5
mobilesuit818 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 269 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	It might be your clutch system. Try bleeding the clutch pedal. Was it hard before you installed the BM?

12-05-2008, 04:03 AM	#6
jsxr14s Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: los angeles Posts: 229 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I just bought a 96 s14 base with a B&M short shifter installed, and there is a not so loud, but noticeable whistling in that area. any help?

12-10-2008, 08:10 AM	#9
jsxr14s Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: los angeles Posts: 229 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Thanks for the responses, I'll look into all of that

12-10-2008, 09:27 AM	#11
The Chad Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 40 Posts: 943 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah man, it took me a while to get used to the B&M over stock. I did put a bigger Slave Cyl in when i did the swap though...but that only helps with pedal feel not the throw of the shifter. Check to make sure nothing is wedged in there maybe...a dead mouse or something haha