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*slider2828* · 01-04-2011, 03:49 PM

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Hey everyone! Kyshro had mention the other day that I head on over to 7tune.com to check out the latest articles about the state of D1, and what tsuchiya’s plans are. Another article is also a message to his fans, and fans of drifting in general. They’re defnatly worth a read and it provides a lot of details about what will happen next year.

So far, D1 looks like it’ll go a year or two longer possibly. But, Tsuchiya and Daisuke said they plan to have this new drifting series up by around march or april. Also, Tsuchiya has said he will not be appearing in any more option or doriten videos since they are affiliated with D1 and he’s no longer apart of that. He also stated that Mana-P and kumakubo will be staying with D1.(who knows what’ll happen after a few years if D1 falls out). Tsuchiya also mentioned that one of the reasons he left D1 was because every year they kept adding more and more power to the cars, which sort of drowned out the competition factor and that D1 management was being greedy and all they cared about was money.This I can totally believe as it’s something I noticed myself in recent years. Tsuchiya went on to say that this new drift series which will be running though Hot Version, but has no official name yet, but will contain mostly cars like in D1SL. Somebody asked him does that mean there will be a power cap for the series he has said that they will enforce some sort of regulations and that they’re still discussing the details.

Overall these articles provided me with a ton of relief and it looks like tsuchiya and Dai are headed in the right direction in my opinion. Check out the articles yourself, and post up your thoughts!^_^ Also, props go to 7tune for translating all this, and providing awesome content!

-Tsuchiya’s message to drivers and fans

NEWS – TSUCHIYAS NEW YEAR MESSAGE TO D1 FANS AND DRIVERS : 7Tune.com

He says KEEP DRIFITNG FUN!!!
http://www.7tune.com/exclusive-the-drift-king-on-2011/

OH SHIT!!! Hot Version D1 style and cap on power!!! This is going to be awesome and what he said is totally true.....

Imarvin240 · 01-04-2011, 03:56 PM

i really hope they just do classes to simplify everything. also, that would make it so no one is left out because they have to low or high of horse power. overall though, this is definitly sounding good to me and im happy to hear they are working on it already and that they plan to have it up and going so soon.

*slider2828* · 01-04-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Imarvin240

i really hope they just do classes to simplify everything. also, that would make it so no one is left out because they have to low or high of horse power. overall though, this is definitly sounding good to me and im happy to hear they are working on it already and that they plan to have it up and going so soon.

Yeah I totally agree.... I mean when checkbooks on how much you spend depends on how successful you are, that really creates an exclusive sport and drifting is NOT and should never be one of those sports (like F1). I mean its a grassroots sport and its great they recognize that....

Can't wait to see it!!!

ericcastro · 01-04-2011, 04:02 PM

I like the power cap/class idea.

sidewaysil80 · 01-04-2011, 04:09 PM

i think they should cap horsepower at a certain level. i think if they class it will baby drivers who are talented. i mean, look at ueo/hibino/a few other 86 drivers i can't think of...they were able to place podium against 4-500hp silvias...again, cap the power at 500whp and call it a day.

bardabe · 01-04-2011, 04:45 PM

Fuck yeah, and Drifting will once again live properly. I like the HP cap they are finally putting on it was much much needed now things will be competitive again.

roboticnissan · 01-04-2011, 05:15 PM

Just put a few classes like time attack with there mod .class and street class or.whatever.

Grenade180sx · 01-04-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by roboticnissan

Just put a few classes like time attack with there mod .class and street class or.whatever.

i dig that. make 2 classes one limited and one unlimited.

S-Nation S13 · 01-04-2011, 05:41 PM

yes..+ a million for this less power more skills, no more turn the wheel and slam on the gas type drifting..fucking fail, finally somewhat equal playing field looks like the non sponsored cars are gonna come out now hehe, this is reminding me of nascar haha if you know what im talking about then your keep up with anything MOTOR SPORTS, if you dont, thats to bad!

ericcastro · 01-04-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Grenade180sx

i dig that. make 2 classes one limited and one unlimited.

agreed. like a 500HP and under and a 500 and over for the big sponsors?
The 500 and under will be really fun to watch with a lot of different people being able to come in. It should also allow light rubbing, so that people cant get away with sandbagging in the lower HP class.

Tony Angelo has some new tire rules for FD this year that should be pretty interesting though. kinda along the same lines.

Imarvin240 · 01-04-2011, 06:07 PM

Well i think they should do it like time attack which has street class, modified class, and unlimited class (super modified class). its not really determined by horse power, but by the modification to the vehicle. I.E. in modified class, you cant relocate the engine, you must use DOT approved tires, fully gutted cars arent allowed, you can do whatever you want to the internals of the engine but engine swaps may only happen with engines within the same make! For unlimited class (super modified class), its basically do whatever you want to the vehicle. you can do any motor from any vehicle, fully gut, any tire you want, full carbon bodies...anything

I think this might work better than a horse power class since it is clearly working for time attack, auto-x, and others. im not disputing that the horse power range classes is bad or not. i think its a great idea but, im just throwing another option out that i think should be considered and that is proven to work.

here is a link to the time attack rules/regulations

http://redlinetimeattack.com/ul/file...ventsRules.pdf

silsx13 · 01-04-2011, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ericcastro

I like the power cap/class idea.

AMEN.

They are also going to do the same thing in Formula D this year as well with what you said about the tire rules. Similar thing happened in F1 back in the 90's and then when they went with "grooved" tires.

1 88 U · 01-04-2011, 06:50 PM

Isn't what Tsuchiya talking about already in existance with D1SL? I think this has more to do with selling DVDs than his passion for affordable drifting.

tricky_ab · 01-04-2011, 06:50 PM

I mentioned this in the other thread but I'm totally down for a HP cap. He is taking this new series in the right direction and it hasn't even started yet. MSC and D1SL were always more interesting to watch over D1Pro.

DenkiMan! · 01-04-2011, 08:39 PM

not gonna lie...daigo's drifting is alot fun to watch with all the smoke he makes, then again he is outrageously power hungry. likewise to all the other high powered D1 cars like orido, yamamoto, nomura, utsumi etc.

but its good that tsuchiya and company is taking the sport in another direction. the cap/class idea is a really good way to organize the league and promote skill over power

darkevildrifter · 01-04-2011, 11:56 PM

JGTC 300
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JGTC 500 style..come on..no one realy needs any more then that to drift

travisty_ · 01-05-2011, 12:19 AM

This sounds fantastic.

WanganNastyMachine · 01-05-2011, 09:24 AM

Im excited to here this, seeing 700HP cars built for nothing but opposite-lock is boring. All the car would act the same, drive the same and carry simaler angle. This will open up opportunities for cars that werent competitive before and will show more drivers skill over car prep and spec.

driftrkp · 01-05-2011, 09:36 AM

it needs to be a hp to weight ratio. a 500whp car that weighs 3400+ wont be able to compete with a 500whp ae86.

darkevildrifter · 01-05-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by driftrkp

it needs to be a hp to weight ratio. a 500whp car that weighs 3400+ wont be able to compete with a 500whp ae86.

a 500 hp ae86 wouldnt have any advantage. In a 86 theres a point where hp becomes to much and then its pointless.

sftmb · 01-05-2011, 10:51 AM

good lookin out slider2828

it took me a good 5 minutes to realize this was actually from my blog. haha the post can also be read here^_^

Tsuchiya’s new series and message to the fans and drivers | Domo Factor

but yeah, I agree with tricky_ab. D1SL and MSC are alot more fun to watch. There's just something awesome about evening out the playing field and letting everybody battle it out with driver skill. haha

also note: a 500hp ae86 would probably start doing some frame/chassis tweaking with that much power in a little car. lol

bardabe · 01-05-2011, 10:57 AM

I agree, they should keep it at a Power/Weight Ratio. that would make things more interesting.

Okinawandrifter87 · 01-05-2011, 11:05 AM

Im hoping this is full of win. Loving the power cap. Its been needed for quite some time now.

PoorMans180SX · 01-05-2011, 11:29 AM

This definitely sounds cool. I love D1SL. I would like to see a factory drivetrain rule as well. Not necessarily the cars factory drivetrain, but something that is OEM-derived. AKA no sequential transmissions or quick change rear diffs.

*slider2828* · 01-05-2011, 12:16 PM

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good lookin out slider2828

it took me a good 5 minutes to realize this was actually from my blog. haha the post can also be read here^_^

Tsuchiya’s new series and message to the fans and drivers | Domo Factor

but yeah, I agree with tricky_ab. D1SL and MSC are alot more fun to watch. There's just something awesome about evening out the playing field and letting everybody battle it out with driver skill. haha

also note: a 500hp ae86 would probably start doing some frame/chassis tweaking with that much power in a little car. lol

Visit this guys SITE!!! DOMOFACTOR is the best site I have seen in a LONG time!....

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*slider2828* · 01-05-2011, 12:18 PM

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I agree, they should keep it at a Power/Weight Ratio. that would make things more interesting.

Power to weight is something pretty hard to enforce I think. I mean then you would have to go to one make engines and then body weights and stuff.... IMHO would kill the aftermarket car industry there....

JGTC rules are good EXCEPT NO BALLAST WEIGHT please.... God it sucked after they introed that.

udon! · 01-05-2011, 12:41 PM

Sounds exciting.

driftrkp · 01-05-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by slider2828

Power to weight is something pretty hard to enforce I think. I mean then you would have to go to one make engines and then body weights and stuff.... IMHO would kill the aftermarket car industry there....

JGTC rules are good EXCEPT NO BALLAST WEIGHT please.... God it sucked after they introed that.

Not really. you could be 2300 and under have 300hp, 2301 to 2650 have 400hp, and 2651 and up have 500hp. you dont have to go all crazy with one make motor and shit. its like my stock car, the chassis i run is a full fab chassis and the class it was built for is no longer so to run in the other class (the only difference is you have to have a stock front clip) we had to add 200lbs and it couldnt to be place on the left rear wheel. theres alot they can do to make it more ever and driver base instead of pocket base. i miss 4ag rolla taking out 400hp skylines and silvias and the unknown street drifter coming in and making top 16

doridet · 01-05-2011, 02:05 PM

wow, sounds like an awesome idea ^_^

PoorMans180SX · 01-05-2011, 04:16 PM

Nahhh, power to weight would take all the fun out of it, and kill driver style.

Some drivers like big power, some like super response. It should definitely be up to them.

Formula D's new weight/tire rule is bad enough. Things like that are what kill it for me. I don't want to see the drift version of NASCAR, where all the cars are equal.

What's cool is seeing a 180whp corolla take out a 400hp skyline when you know the skyline has a better power to weight. That's skill.

Also, big smoke is cool, but it should be of less importance than speed, angle, and clipping points. Just throwing that out there. That takes a lot of the importance off big power.

01-04-2011, 04:45 PM	#6
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Fuck yeah, and Drifting will once again live properly. I like the HP cap they are finally putting on it was much much needed now things will be competitive again. __________________ Review Thread

01-04-2011, 05:15 PM	#7
roboticnissan Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SOCAL/NORCAL Age: 32 Posts: 1,867 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Just put a few classes like time attack with there mod .class and street class or.whatever. __________________

01-04-2011, 06:07 PM	#11
Imarvin240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: king of prussia, PA! Posts: 1,721 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	Well i think they should do it like time attack which has street class, modified class, and unlimited class (super modified class). its not really determined by horse power, but by the modification to the vehicle. I.E. in modified class, you cant relocate the engine, you must use DOT approved tires, fully gutted cars arent allowed, you can do whatever you want to the internals of the engine but engine swaps may only happen with engines within the same make! For unlimited class (super modified class), its basically do whatever you want to the vehicle. you can do any motor from any vehicle, fully gut, any tire you want, full carbon bodies...anything I think this might work better than a horse power class since it is clearly working for time attack, auto-x, and others. im not disputing that the horse power range classes is bad or not. i think its a great idea but, im just throwing another option out that i think should be considered and that is proven to work. here is a link to the time attack rules/regulations http://redlinetimeattack.com/ul/file...ventsRules.pdf Last edited by Imarvin240; 01-04-2011 at 06:42 PM.. Reason: add alil more info

01-04-2011, 11:56 PM	#16
darkevildrifter Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: City of Buttholes!!!!!!!!!!! Age: 38 Posts: 724 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	JGTC 300 and JGTC 500 style..come on..no one realy needs any more then that to drift __________________

01-05-2011, 10:51 AM	#21
sftmb Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mukilteo,WA Age: 31 Posts: 124 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	good lookin out slider2828 it took me a good 5 minutes to realize this was actually from my blog. haha the post can also be read here^_^ Tsuchiya’s new series and message to the fans and drivers \| Domo Factor but yeah, I agree with tricky_ab. D1SL and MSC are alot more fun to watch. There's just something awesome about evening out the playing field and letting everybody battle it out with driver skill. haha also note: a 500hp ae86 would probably start doing some frame/chassis tweaking with that much power in a little car. lol __________________

01-04-2011, 03:56 PM	#2
Imarvin240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: king of prussia, PA! Posts: 1,721 Trader Rating: (18) Feedback Score: 18 reviews	i really hope they just do classes to simplify everything. also, that would make it so no one is left out because they have to low or high of horse power. overall though, this is definitly sounding good to me and im happy to hear they are working on it already and that they plan to have it up and going so soon.

01-04-2011, 04:09 PM	#5
sidewaysil80 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NoVA Age: 35 Posts: 1,710 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	i think they should cap horsepower at a certain level. i think if they class it will baby drivers who are talented. i mean, look at ueo/hibino/a few other 86 drivers i can't think of...they were able to place podium against 4-500hp silvias...again, cap the power at 500whp and call it a day.

01-04-2011, 05:41 PM	#9
S-Nation S13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LAND of the LOST Posts: 4,082 Trader Rating: (92) Feedback Score: 92 reviews	yes..+ a million for this less power more skills, no more turn the wheel and slam on the gas type drifting..fucking fail, finally somewhat equal playing field looks like the non sponsored cars are gonna come out now hehe, this is reminding me of nascar haha if you know what im talking about then your keep up with anything MOTOR SPORTS, if you dont, thats to bad!

01-04-2011, 06:50 PM	#13
1 88 U Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ga Posts: 536 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Isn't what Tsuchiya talking about already in existance with D1SL? I think this has more to do with selling DVDs than his passion for affordable drifting.

01-04-2011, 06:50 PM	#14
tricky_ab Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: It's dark, and hell is hot! Posts: 9,413 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	I mentioned this in the other thread but I'm totally down for a HP cap. He is taking this new series in the right direction and it hasn't even started yet. MSC and D1SL were always more interesting to watch over D1Pro.

01-05-2011, 12:19 AM	#17
travisty_ Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2010 Location: Phoenix, AZ Age: 29 Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	This sounds fantastic.

01-05-2011, 09:24 AM	#18
WanganNastyMachine Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Maryland, USA Age: 29 Posts: 468 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Im excited to here this, seeing 700HP cars built for nothing but opposite-lock is boring. All the car would act the same, drive the same and carry simaler angle. This will open up opportunities for cars that werent competitive before and will show more drivers skill over car prep and spec.

01-05-2011, 09:36 AM	#19
driftrkp Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: dayton Age: 33 Posts: 175 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it needs to be a hp to weight ratio. a 500whp car that weighs 3400+ wont be able to compete with a 500whp ae86.

01-05-2011, 10:57 AM	#22
bardabe Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Age: 31 Posts: 4,716 Trader Rating: (10) Rides Gallery: bardabe Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I agree, they should keep it at a Power/Weight Ratio. that would make things more interesting. __________________ Review Thread

01-05-2011, 11:05 AM	#23
Okinawandrifter87 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 3,959 Trader Rating: (22) Feedback Score: 22 reviews	Im hoping this is full of win. Loving the power cap. Its been needed for quite some time now. __________________ Driftphreak87

01-05-2011, 11:29 AM	#24
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	This definitely sounds cool. I love D1SL. I would like to see a factory drivetrain rule as well. Not necessarily the cars factory drivetrain, but something that is OEM-derived. AKA no sequential transmissions or quick change rear diffs. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

01-05-2011, 12:41 PM	#27
udon! Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: So-Cal Posts: 2,025 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Sounds exciting.

01-05-2011, 02:05 PM	#29
doridet Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 626 during the week/818 on Sundays Age: 35 Posts: 725 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	wow, sounds like an awesome idea ^_^ __________________ www.facebook.com/driftergirl www.suislidegirls.tumblr.com

01-05-2011, 04:16 PM	#30
PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Nahhh, power to weight would take all the fun out of it, and kill driver style. Some drivers like big power, some like super response. It should definitely be up to them. Formula D's new weight/tire rule is bad enough. Things like that are what kill it for me. I don't want to see the drift version of NASCAR, where all the cars are equal. What's cool is seeing a 180whp corolla take out a 400hp skyline when you know the skyline has a better power to weight. That's skill. Also, big smoke is cool, but it should be of less importance than speed, angle, and clipping points. Just throwing that out there. That takes a lot of the importance off big power. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

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