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WagDatto · 01-08-2008, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jtuned_andy

Pretty soon there isn't gonna be any stock 510s around, everyone feels the need to swap them and turn them into drifters

Nice wagon...I guess. Rare to see them around.

That day will make me happy and sad. So long as 510's stick around, I'll call it a good world. I refuse to make the wagon a track car, she'll be daily driven when I get her going. I'll get myself an S13 beater to track, but I chose the KA swap for practicality and reliability. It's becoming harder and more expensive to source parts for Dimes. Plus, the stocker 4 speed wouldnt handle too many highway experiences. The KA I got from my buddy for 400 bux made it the right choice.

*ManoNegra* · 01-08-2008, 03:37 PM

I live en el barrio and see 510s every once in the while. Family members and friends often wonder why I stare glassy eyed at old pos cars all the time...

kcndizzle · 01-08-2008, 03:42 PM

Fun looking project man, hope to see it running around here sometime soon!

p.s. You wouldn't have happened to buy an s14 ecu/maf/harness off of me a while back would you?

WagDatto · 01-08-2008, 03:48 PM

Met in the Target parking lot down near 80?

If that was you, I don't remember your name, I have you in my phone as "240 ECU." Gooood times... Ever get the right colored front end and sell the car?

Edit: Was your name Kurt or something?
Edit 2: I think it was Kirk.

kcndizzle · 01-08-2008, 03:57 PM

Hey! It was you, and yes the name is Kurt! Yeah, got that car all put together, and sold it off. And bought another white s14 shell lol, but this one is currently getting built with more sinister plans. Good to see the dime project coming along nicely.

posdriftin · 01-08-2008, 04:31 PM

man i love to see people doing 510's and z's .... gl let me know if you need anything ...ive done a few 510's and s30 z cars....

gprb25 · 01-08-2008, 04:43 PM

Nice ride Man!

I like the originality of the whole build. +1 to you sir.

I know you kinda touched on it... but for the flares...

Are you going to cut them and make them work with the rear door?
Or mold the door and make a 2 door wagon?

WagDatto · 01-08-2008, 05:22 PM

Neither. Somebody already did a "2-Door Wagon" and it's a lot of work, cutting and molding in the glass from other Datsuns to make it look correct and original. It was sick, but way beyond what I want to do. And I hate the look of flares that were cut, like a lot of 4-Door Datsuns do. What I'm doing is cutting the door, near the body line, and reshaping where the door actually opens, so it clears the flare. From there, I'm cutting the wheelwell pretty much out, and retubbing the rear so it flows as if it were stock-ish. It will shrink the size of the door's opening to the back seats, but any room I might have for rear passengers is kind of comprimised by using 240sx seats up front.

At least, thats my idea for it so far, I haven't really measured and calculated how much space that cut would take, and how tiny the back doors would become, so plans may change when I get to that point.

gprb25 · 01-08-2008, 05:25 PM

I see...that would be really cool!

And I agree with the cutting of the flare.

Good Luck, I will def. be checking back in.

j00ni3 · 01-08-2008, 06:10 PM

argg.. waiting to see what it will become...

ps where'd you get that battery mount? ... hehe

JRas · 01-08-2008, 06:16 PM

I like it

It'll be cool to have a unique build like this to look at

keep it up

WagDatto · 01-08-2008, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j00ni3

argg.. waiting to see what it will become...

ps where'd you get that battery mount? ... hehe

I'm actually the shipping manager for Fender Bender Intl, www.fbirides.com

We make them in-house and polish them ourselves before they ship out. This is my last week working there, though. I put in my two weeks so I can go back to school (Yikes!). I'm totally gonna miss working there. I think we still have a few left in stock, and I'll cut you a deal on shipping if you let me know you're ordering in advance.

HERE is the link for the optima battery trays.

Like I said, PM me and I'll see what I can do to hook you guys up on shipping while I still work there!

j00ni3 · 01-08-2008, 07:23 PM

VERY nice... thanks for the info... way cheaper than the one that i found that weren't so GREAT looking...

will doo... i will be ordering very soon .... keep up the update~

tknbkthrsdy4anfg · 01-08-2008, 07:30 PM

Awesome project keep it up!

mr.lonelys12 · 01-08-2008, 08:11 PM

nice project!

hope i see you running around sac with the other 510's, what part of sac are you in?

WagDatto · 01-08-2008, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.lonelys12

nice project!

hope i see you running around sac with the other 510's, what part of sac are you in?

I live in fair oaks, school will be in rocklin and I work in rancho cordova. I'll be all over!

LB.Motoring · 01-09-2008, 01:06 AM

My buddys dad had an awesome 510,

wagons are hot,

keep up the good work!

WagDatto · 01-09-2008, 02:55 PM

So, I'm almost done at work, just another few hours. I've got my camera, and I'm headed straight for my brother's house to work on the Goooon. I'll get some bigger pictures of body, suspension (struts, bump steer spacers, etc), and some other nonsense. Plan for today is to mount the alternator and start finishing mounting the wiring harness. If I'm lucky, we might fire her up really quick this weekend!

For those of you who were interested, we have SIX MORE of the billet optima battery trays left on our shelf before we've got to make more. If you order on FBI's website, you'll pay full price, HOWEVER, if you order from our ebay retail, you'll pay about 60 bucks (member price) and 10 in shipping to the lower 48, PLUS I will personally ship your tray out within 24 hrs. Ebay links are allowed, just not in the For Sale section, right? HERE is our auction for the battery trays. Either ebay it, or call us up and ask for an ebay price match to get the lower price. We also get hooked up on optima batteries and collision parts (bumpers, fenders, hoods, etc), so we MIGHT be able to get replacement body parts for you for cheap. I DO NOT KNOW, you'd have to call up and find out, I just know we can't get any Datsun 510 pieces

.

Note: I don't personally get any money out of any of that, I'm just trying to help you guys out if you were in need of a part while I still work here. And again, PM me if you're going to order with us, I'll toss some freebies your way when I process your order!

DOOK · 01-09-2008, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WagDatto

Plus I think they're sick. You rarely see a 510, but to see a badass 510 wagon is unheard of!

same reason I chose a Legacy Wagon for my car... bad ass wagons are just that... bad ass...

WagDatto · 01-09-2008, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOK

same reason I chose a Legacy Wagon for my car... bad ass wagons are just that... bad ass...

Shoop da woop! My brother used to have a 5 speed converted, turbo legacy wagon! Fancy stuff... Good times power sliding that thing!

rhs13 · 01-09-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Addicted2Kouki

so my question is...
Why the wagon?
Not that theres anything wrong with it. just wondering.

BECAUSE ITS FUCKEN BADASS.

Quail · 01-09-2008, 06:20 PM

Excellent use for a KA! Refreshing to see these engines starting to appear in swaps. Nice work

WagDatto · 01-09-2008, 07:59 PM

******UPDATE******

Alright, so I just got home from my brother's house and ate, so I decided to hop on and show y'all the latest!

So today, I mounted the alternator bracket and snugged up the belt a touch, so hopefully I can stop taking off the goddamn water pump pulley! Here's a quick snap of the sheet of paper I get to call a core support:

I started tucking the wire harness into the intake manifold to clean up the bay a tad. I had to open up the wire wrap to lengthen the leads to the injectors, but it turned out alright, I think!

So the lights started to dim and my brother and his wife had to jet out to grab some food, so I called it a day, and snapped off a few shots.

Big long side view:

Nice view of suspension and braided brake line:

Powdercoated 280zx struts, control arms, modified TC rod (heimed and adjustable), red annodized bump-steer spacers:

Before the engine was in, this was the cut, reversed, rewelded and powdercoated crossmember:

Camber adjusting plates, and clutch/brake cylinders:

Welded diff and beefy sway bar:

This void needs to be filled with a fuel cell ASAP!

Transmission tunnel with a shifter sticking through and my yet-to-be-thought-out hydraulic hand brake (uses rear brakes, rather than an e-brake cable):

Using the wagon for what it was meant; putting a bunch of shit in the back!

That's all for tonight, I'll try to dig up some pictures my brother took while we were still assembling. I'll also snap a shot or two of the TC rods next time I'm over there.

ROUGE180 · 01-09-2008, 08:45 PM

So sweet man... I might have to fly to cali when you're done just to see it in person and get a ride in it lol.. Keep it going

WagDatto · 01-09-2008, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROUGE180

So sweet man... I might have to fly to cali when you're done just to see it in person and get a ride in it lol.. Keep it going

By all means! I'll take you for a spin, haha. Yeah, I'm really stoked. Like I said, I'm starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel! I'm doing more math tomorrow on the fuel cell, and hopefully getting that all squared away to get by the end of next week. Headers will be in my hands this weekend, if all goes as planned, and I just need to call up about shortening the drive shaft and debowing the leaf springs. After that, it's all wiring and plumbing BS until it's ready for a quick trip to my buddies at Marco Muffler to get some 2.5" exhaust run back for me, and she'll be driving!!

WagDatto · 01-10-2008, 09:16 AM

Morning Update

So I'm hung over on a workday, that sucks. But it's my last day tomorrow, so fuck it, right? Anyway, I broght in my fuel pump and sending unit in so I can do some more measuring for the fuel cell. Rather than doing 23x17x11, I'm thinking of cutting and shortening the stock 240sx sending unit so I can shrink the tank down to somewhere around 23x18x8 or so. That will hide it behind the rear bumper a lot better and bring me down to around 13-14 gallons instead of 18.5.

I need to dig in my pockets for some cash so I can get some more parts to work with! I really need some headers so when I do finish wiring, I can give it a good wake up fire!

Bringing up an older question, anybody have any ideas for wheels? I'm starting to think about poking my head in a few doors (don't be dirty!) and starting to look for the right wheels for the wider 'wells. I was thinking of an old-school look, 15" or 16" by probably 9" would tuck in there nicely. Like I said before, big lips are gooood, so anything from a -10 to a +0 offset would give me what I'm looking for. I saw some old Works (i think they were) with like a -9 or -10 offset in the for sale... Got me thinking, is all.

Give me your opinions!

idriveattz32 · 01-10-2008, 10:49 AM

cool project and progress, keep up the good work...my only thought would be a wood panel trunk floor, but if you plan on roughing it around a bit I guess some nice carpet or rhino-liner would be nice too.

WagDatto · 01-10-2008, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idriveattz32

cool project and progress, keep up the good work...my only thought would be a wood panel trunk floor, but if you plan on roughing it around a bit I guess some nice carpet or rhino-liner would be nice too.

Haha, a wood panel cargo area would be hard to pull off in a wagon. I'm just going to strip out the sound deadening, spray on some lighter weight stuff or Dynamat it and cover everything with a new carpet kit and headliner.

kcndizzle · 01-10-2008, 02:30 PM

Looks like you found those camber plates you were looking for. Anything bigger than 16" would look a little odd. Some Work equips maybe? Something old-schooly with a fat dish would be sweet.

HyperTek · 01-10-2008, 02:42 PM

hey sweet!!

but it looks like your hydrolic brake lever is the wrong direction? never mind i guess its not mounted yet

01-08-2008, 03:42 PM	#33
kcndizzle Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Folsom, Ca Age: 33 Posts: 362 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Fun looking project man, hope to see it running around here sometime soon! p.s. You wouldn't have happened to buy an s14 ecu/maf/harness off of me a while back would you? __________________ I had so many 240's I started my own club! Now if I could just get them running...

01-08-2008, 03:48 PM	#34
WagDatto Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, NorCal Posts: 1,283 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: WagDatto Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Met in the Target parking lot down near 80? If that was you, I don't remember your name, I have you in my phone as "240 ECU." Gooood times... Ever get the right colored front end and sell the car? Edit: Was your name Kurt or something? Edit 2: I think it was Kirk. __________________ http://garagezoku.blogspot.com

01-08-2008, 03:57 PM	#35
kcndizzle Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Folsom, Ca Age: 33 Posts: 362 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hey! It was you, and yes the name is Kurt! Yeah, got that car all put together, and sold it off. And bought another white s14 shell lol, but this one is currently getting built with more sinister plans. Good to see the dime project coming along nicely. __________________ I had so many 240's I started my own club! Now if I could just get them running...

01-08-2008, 05:22 PM	#38
WagDatto Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, NorCal Posts: 1,283 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: WagDatto Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Neither. Somebody already did a "2-Door Wagon" and it's a lot of work, cutting and molding in the glass from other Datsuns to make it look correct and original. It was sick, but way beyond what I want to do. And I hate the look of flares that were cut, like a lot of 4-Door Datsuns do. What I'm doing is cutting the door, near the body line, and reshaping where the door actually opens, so it clears the flare. From there, I'm cutting the wheelwell pretty much out, and retubbing the rear so it flows as if it were stock-ish. It will shrink the size of the door's opening to the back seats, but any room I might have for rear passengers is kind of comprimised by using 240sx seats up front. At least, thats my idea for it so far, I haven't really measured and calculated how much space that cut would take, and how tiny the back doors would become, so plans may change when I get to that point. __________________ http://garagezoku.blogspot.com

01-08-2008, 06:10 PM	#40
j00ni3 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC.... 브롱동~ Posts: 273 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	argg.. waiting to see what it will become... ps where'd you get that battery mount? ... hehe __________________ 빨리 달리자... 싫으면 말고~ driver's side window button fix

01-08-2008, 03:37 PM	#32
ManoNegra Guild of Skullduggerous Intent Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Socal Posts: 7,841 Trader Rating: (48) Feedback Score: 48 reviews	I live en el barrio and see 510s every once in the while. Family members and friends often wonder why I stare glassy eyed at old pos cars all the time...

01-08-2008, 04:31 PM	#36
posdriftin Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: so cal...north ..sd... Posts: 832 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	man i love to see people doing 510's and z's .... gl let me know if you need anything ...ive done a few 510's and s30 z cars....

01-08-2008, 04:43 PM	#37
gprb25 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 37 Posts: 596 Trader Rating: (20) Rides Gallery: gprb25 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	Nice ride Man! I like the originality of the whole build. +1 to you sir. I know you kinda touched on it... but for the flares... Are you going to cut them and make them work with the rear door? Or mold the door and make a 2 door wagon?

01-08-2008, 05:25 PM	#39
gprb25 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 37 Posts: 596 Trader Rating: (20) Rides Gallery: gprb25 Feedback Score: 20 reviews	I see...that would be really cool! And I agree with the cutting of the flare. Good Luck, I will def. be checking back in.

01-08-2008, 06:16 PM	#41
JRas Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arizona Age: 32 Posts: 1,503 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I like it It'll be cool to have a unique build like this to look at keep it up __________________

01-08-2008, 07:23 PM	#43
j00ni3 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NYC.... 브롱동~ Posts: 273 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	VERY nice... thanks for the info... way cheaper than the one that i found that weren't so GREAT looking... will doo... i will be ordering very soon .... keep up the update~ __________________ 빨리 달리자... 싫으면 말고~ driver's side window button fix

01-08-2008, 08:11 PM	#45
mr.lonelys12 Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: cali' Posts: 183 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nice project! hope i see you running around sac with the other 510's, what part of sac are you in?

01-09-2008, 01:06 AM	#47
LB.Motoring Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SòCal♥ Age: 35 Posts: 5,840 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: LB.Motoring Feedback Score: 1 reviews	My buddys dad had an awesome 510, wagons are hot, keep up the good work! __________________ Robby Leuer

01-09-2008, 02:55 PM	#48
WagDatto Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, NorCal Posts: 1,283 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: WagDatto Feedback Score: 6 reviews	So, I'm almost done at work, just another few hours. I've got my camera, and I'm headed straight for my brother's house to work on the Goooon. I'll get some bigger pictures of body, suspension (struts, bump steer spacers, etc), and some other nonsense. Plan for today is to mount the alternator and start finishing mounting the wiring harness. If I'm lucky, we might fire her up really quick this weekend! For those of you who were interested, we have SIX MORE of the billet optima battery trays left on our shelf before we've got to make more. If you order on FBI's website, you'll pay full price, HOWEVER, if you order from our ebay retail, you'll pay about 60 bucks (member price) and 10 in shipping to the lower 48, PLUS I will personally ship your tray out within 24 hrs. Ebay links are allowed, just not in the For Sale section, right? HERE is our auction for the battery trays. Either ebay it, or call us up and ask for an ebay price match to get the lower price. We also get hooked up on optima batteries and collision parts (bumpers, fenders, hoods, etc), so we MIGHT be able to get replacement body parts for you for cheap. I DO NOT KNOW, you'd have to call up and find out, I just know we can't get any Datsun 510 pieces . Note: I don't personally get any money out of any of that, I'm just trying to help you guys out if you were in need of a part while I still work here. And again, PM me if you're going to order with us, I'll toss some freebies your way when I process your order! __________________ http://garagezoku.blogspot.com Last edited by WagDatto; 01-09-2008 at 04:39 PM..

01-09-2008, 06:20 PM	#52
Quail Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 34 Posts: 1,378 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Excellent use for a KA! Refreshing to see these engines starting to appear in swaps. Nice work __________________

01-09-2008, 07:59 PM	#53
WagDatto Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, NorCal Posts: 1,283 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: WagDatto Feedback Score: 6 reviews	****UPDATE**** Alright, so I just got home from my brother's house and ate, so I decided to hop on and show y'all the latest! So today, I mounted the alternator bracket and snugged up the belt a touch, so hopefully I can stop taking off the goddamn water pump pulley! Here's a quick snap of the sheet of paper I get to call a core support: I started tucking the wire harness into the intake manifold to clean up the bay a tad. I had to open up the wire wrap to lengthen the leads to the injectors, but it turned out alright, I think! So the lights started to dim and my brother and his wife had to jet out to grab some food, so I called it a day, and snapped off a few shots. Big long side view: Nice view of suspension and braided brake line: Powdercoated 280zx struts, control arms, modified TC rod (heimed and adjustable), red annodized bump-steer spacers: Before the engine was in, this was the cut, reversed, rewelded and powdercoated crossmember: Camber adjusting plates, and clutch/brake cylinders: Welded diff and beefy sway bar: This void needs to be filled with a fuel cell ASAP! Transmission tunnel with a shifter sticking through and my yet-to-be-thought-out hydraulic hand brake (uses rear brakes, rather than an e-brake cable): Using the wagon for what it was meant; putting a bunch of shit in the back! That's all for tonight, I'll try to dig up some pictures my brother took while we were still assembling. I'll also snap a shot or two of the TC rods next time I'm over there. __________________ http://garagezoku.blogspot.com

01-09-2008, 08:45 PM	#54
ROUGE180 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Potomac, MD Posts: 880 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: ROUGE180 Feedback Score: 5 reviews	So sweet man... I might have to fly to cali when you're done just to see it in person and get a ride in it lol.. Keep it going

01-10-2008, 09:16 AM	#56
WagDatto Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sacramento, NorCal Posts: 1,283 Trader Rating: (6) Rides Gallery: WagDatto Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Morning Update So I'm hung over on a workday, that sucks. But it's my last day tomorrow, so fuck it, right? Anyway, I broght in my fuel pump and sending unit in so I can do some more measuring for the fuel cell. Rather than doing 23x17x11, I'm thinking of cutting and shortening the stock 240sx sending unit so I can shrink the tank down to somewhere around 23x18x8 or so. That will hide it behind the rear bumper a lot better and bring me down to around 13-14 gallons instead of 18.5. I need to dig in my pockets for some cash so I can get some more parts to work with! I really need some headers so when I do finish wiring, I can give it a good wake up fire! Bringing up an older question, anybody have any ideas for wheels? I'm starting to think about poking my head in a few doors (don't be dirty!) and starting to look for the right wheels for the wider 'wells. I was thinking of an old-school look, 15" or 16" by probably 9" would tuck in there nicely. Like I said before, big lips are gooood, so anything from a -10 to a +0 offset would give me what I'm looking for. I saw some old Works (i think they were) with like a -9 or -10 offset in the for sale... Got me thinking, is all. Give me your opinions! __________________ http://garagezoku.blogspot.com

01-10-2008, 10:49 AM	#57
idriveattz32 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bel Air, MD Age: 38 Posts: 167 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	cool project and progress, keep up the good work...my only thought would be a wood panel trunk floor, but if you plan on roughing it around a bit I guess some nice carpet or rhino-liner would be nice too. __________________ Sold the Z, sold the S14, now I drive a G35 6MT coupe.

01-10-2008, 02:30 PM	#59
kcndizzle Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Folsom, Ca Age: 33 Posts: 362 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Looks like you found those camber plates you were looking for. Anything bigger than 16" would look a little odd. Some Work equips maybe? Something old-schooly with a fat dish would be sweet. __________________ I had so many 240's I started my own club! Now if I could just get them running...

01-10-2008, 02:42 PM	#60
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	hey sweet!! but it looks like your hydrolic brake lever is the wrong direction? never mind i guess its not mounted yet __________________ Keep it Classy

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