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Gnnr · 12-03-2010, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

The GTR is officially faster then a mother fucker.

2012 Nissan GT-R officially goes 0-60 in 2.9 seconds — Autoblog

Wow!

On what tires?

*exitspeed* · 12-03-2010, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gnnr

Wow!

On what tires?

GOD'S

DenkiMan! · 12-03-2010, 09:17 AM

^^^ looool!!

Daniel. · 12-03-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by superbike81

I welcome the death of the manual transmission. Dual clutch gearboxes are amazing, you get the best of both worlds, automatic and manual. I never quite understood what people say about feeling "more involved." I've been driving manual transmissions for the last 15 years, simply because dual clutch gearboxes were either not readily available or not affordable. Once I test drove a couple cars like the new GT-R, new Evo MR, and the 997 with PDK, it was amazing, so much better than manual, and I still felt just as involved in driving as I have in any other car I've owned. Now my left foot is available for braking, and I can have both hands on the wheel, that's awesome.

Now I can text while driving so much moar easier!

usdm180sx · 12-21-2010, 04:10 AM

I saw a vid of a modified GT-R smoking a fucking veyron. Damn i wish i had the link

4DOOR_LIFE · 12-21-2010, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by usdm180sx

I saw a vid of a modified GT-R smoking a fucking veyron. Damn i wish i had the link

is this the one?

YouTube - Bugatti Veyron Vs Nissan Skyline GT-R R35 (rounds 2).flv

usdm180sx · 12-21-2010, 04:59 AM

That's the one. A million for a veyron or 90k for a gt-r? haha

superbike81 · 12-21-2010, 06:45 AM

If you notice, when the Veyron actually starts racing on the second round, it's beating the GTR. Lets put the GTR into the 225mph+ territory where the Veyron is at home and you'll see an aerodynamically inferior GTR getting smoked.

*exitspeed* · 12-21-2010, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by superbike81

If you notice, when the Veyron actually starts racing on the second round, it's beating the GTR. Lets put the GTR into the 225mph+ territory where the Veyron is at home and you'll see an aerodynamically inferior GTR getting smoked.

You will never get to drive 225 mph. I'll take the GTR. Plus the GTR isn't hideous.

superbike81 · 12-21-2010, 08:29 AM

The GTR and Veyron are both ugly ass cars. But the Veyron is ugly so it can do 250mph, the GTR is ugly just because it's ugly.

There are plenty of places you can take your car to do 200+.

codyace · 12-21-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by usdm180sx

That's the one. A million for a veyron or 90k for a gt-r? haha

Well, it's worth another 90k of mods on there as well, so I guess it's still a deal.

*exitspeed* · 12-21-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by superbike81

The GTR and Veyron are both ugly ass cars. But the Veyron is ugly so it can do 250mph, the GTR is ugly just because it's ugly.

There are plenty of places you can take your car to do 200+.

Well considering the Veyron has a drag coefficient of .36 and the GTR a .27 seems to me the Veryon is just ugly to be ugly.

I could care less about the top speed of a Veyron. It's ugly, and even if I could buy one I wouldn't. However I will never be able to buy one. A GTR on the other hand is within actually attainable.

superbike81 · 12-21-2010, 10:15 AM

I wouldn't buy one either, but for $90k I'd buy a lightly used 911 Turbo S, a sports car that runs with the GTR but has something called class.

***S14DB*** · 12-21-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by superbike81

I wouldn't buy one either, but for $90k I'd buy a lightly used 911 Turbo S, a sports car that runs with the GTR but has something called class.

You can't buy class...

superbike81 · 12-21-2010, 10:45 AM

Not personal class, but there is such thing as a classy vehicle. The GTR isn't, it's a boy racer's fantasy.

Don't get me wrong, I think the GTR is an amazing car, but saying it's better than a Veyron just because a highly modded GTR beat a Veyron from a roll up to X speed, doesn't mean it's a better car. Better value for money? Sure. But it's not always about value, it's about exclusivity too.

*exitspeed* · 12-21-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by superbike81

Don't get me wrong, I think the GTR is an amazing car, but saying it's better than a Veyron just because a highly modded GTR beat a Veyron from a roll up to X speed, doesn't mean it's a better car. Better value for money? Sure. But it's not always about value, it's about exclusivity too.

No one said it's better then a Veyron. They are two COMPLETELY different cars.

And that is YOUR opinion about exclusivity. I could give a fuck about exclusivity. I'm a bang for your buck kind of guy, which is why the Veyron does nothing for me. For that kinda dough I'd much rather have a Hennessy Venom GT.

Flicktitty · 12-21-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

And that is YOUR opinion about exclusivity. I could give a fuck about exclusivity. I'm a bang for your buck kind of guy, which is why the Veyron does nothing for me. For that kinda dough I'd much rather have a Hennessy Venom GT.

Truth.

A House, a highly modded GT-R a LS460 and a Done just right S13. would make me alot happier then that Veyron.

superbike81 · 12-21-2010, 11:28 AM

You are thinking small-time, like most of us, maybe with a slightly above average income. But if you have the money for a Veyron, you already own a home or twenty, have a huge net worth, a garage full of other cars, and more money than you know what to do with. What does the man who already has it all do? He's buys the most expensive most exclusive hyper-car in the world. I'll bet there are a few Veyron owners out there who also have a GTR.

codyace · 12-21-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

And that is YOUR opinion about exclusivity. I could give a fuck about exclusivity. I'm a bang for your buck kind of guy, which is why the Veyron does nothing for me. For that kinda dough I'd much rather have a Hennessy Venom GT.

I think a lot of guys wouldn't mind having Hennessy cars...well, at least the ones they ordered

hahaha

I totally agree. You can't buy class. That's why I'll sack ride the Z06...it's equal to the GTR on track, and half as expensive to own in the long run. Plus if you want to get into the modification game, I think we all realize the awesomeness that is LSX.

*exitspeed* · 12-21-2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by superbike81

You are thinking small-time, like most of us, maybe with a slightly above average income. .

My bad. I didn't realize I was talking to one of the Big Tymers.

BOROSUN · 12-21-2010, 02:48 PM

yeah, even if i was rich & balling out of control. i would never ever get a veyron.

if i was collecting cars, i would grab a ultra rare cars like the exclusive nissan r390 and gtr-lm. i'll probably have a handful of mclaren f1. those car just inspires me.

this would be my daily

simmode1 · 12-21-2010, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Flicktitty

Truth.

A House, a highly modded GT-R a LS460 and a Done just right S13. would make me alot happier then that Veyron.

We're on the same page. But I'd throw in an F150 or something for towing and utility.

superbike81 · 12-21-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

My bad. I didn't realize I was talking to one of the Big Tymers.

You gotta Stay Fly if you wanna be a #1 Stunna.

h2v7 · 12-21-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by simmode1

We're on the same page. But I'd throw in an F150 or something for towing and utility.

.WHAT ABOUT THE DUCATI n im happy

superbike81 · 12-21-2010, 03:32 PM

Desmosedici RR or go home!

TheWolf · 12-21-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Well considering the Veyron has a drag coefficient of .36 and the GTR a .27 seems to me the Veryon is just ugly to be ugly.

A freight liner semi has a drag coefficient of .21

You can't compare drag coefficients unless you know frontal square feet. It's another useless thing magazines have been batting around for a while.

*exitspeed* · 12-22-2010, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWolf

A freight liner semi has a drag coefficient of .21

You can't compare drag coefficients unless you know frontal square feet. It's another useless thing magazines have been batting around for a while.

So what you are saying is drag has no effect on a vehicle's performance or stability at 100 mph+?

godrifttoday · 12-22-2010, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by S14DB

You can't buy class...

Epic lmao!!!!!!

ZenkiKid · 12-22-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by superbike81

I wouldn't buy one either, but for $90k I'd buy a lightly used 911 Turbo S, a sports car that runs with the GTR but has something called class.

Jay Z said it best.. "You could pay for school but you cant buy class"

TheWolf · 12-23-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

So what you are saying is drag has no effect on a vehicle's performance or stability at 100 mph+?

No. I'm saying Drag Coefficients can not be compared.

This is a simple Drag Equation.

p= mass density of the fluid (air density in this case)
u=velocity of object relative to the fluid. IE how fast is the object moving through the air. Not over the ground.
Cd= Much halabalooed drag coefficient.
A= Frontal square area of the vehicle. IE if you put a camera 10' in front of the car 6" off the ground. Everything you see in that photo is frontal square area. (this is a simple equation that does not take into account things like wings, tires etc but it's enough to elaborate the point)

The Fd= how much drag the object generates. (this is how much resistance the air pushes back. This has nothing to do with "aero stability", downforce, etc. and neither will Cd tell you anything about that either. This is the "force" the engine must overcome to accelerate another mph. Top speed is where engine power output is in equalibrium with this Fd number.)

So if you had a car with a .37 drag coefficient and a frontal surface area of 12feet.
That would be just as good as a car with a .22 drag coefficent and 20 frontal square feet. The second car will be "bigger" but not any faster aerodynamically than the first one.

F1 cars have huge Cd's .45+ but have very small frontal areas. Thus smaller drag amounts.

If you had a 911turbo with a .32Cd.. and then had a special edition that had a .26Cd. Assuming they're the same shape then it would be an improvement. If you're comparing a 911 turbo to a GTR and saying one is better than the other like some magazines do. Then you'd be proving that you don't understand what the number really means.

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12-21-2010, 06:45 AM	#1148
superbike81 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Who Knows? Age: 40 Posts: 393 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If you notice, when the Veyron actually starts racing on the second round, it's beating the GTR. Lets put the GTR into the 225mph+ territory where the Veyron is at home and you'll see an aerodynamically inferior GTR getting smoked.

12-21-2010, 08:29 AM	#1150
superbike81 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Who Knows? Age: 40 Posts: 393 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The GTR and Veyron are both ugly ass cars. But the Veyron is ugly so it can do 250mph, the GTR is ugly just because it's ugly. There are plenty of places you can take your car to do 200+.

12-21-2010, 10:15 AM	#1153
superbike81 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Who Knows? Age: 40 Posts: 393 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I wouldn't buy one either, but for $90k I'd buy a lightly used 911 Turbo S, a sports car that runs with the GTR but has something called class.

12-21-2010, 10:45 AM	#1155
superbike81 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Who Knows? Age: 40 Posts: 393 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Not personal class, but there is such thing as a classy vehicle. The GTR isn't, it's a boy racer's fantasy. Don't get me wrong, I think the GTR is an amazing car, but saying it's better than a Veyron just because a highly modded GTR beat a Veyron from a roll up to X speed, doesn't mean it's a better car. Better value for money? Sure. But it's not always about value, it's about exclusivity too.

12-21-2010, 11:28 AM	#1158
superbike81 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Who Knows? Age: 40 Posts: 393 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	You are thinking small-time, like most of us, maybe with a slightly above average income. But if you have the money for a Veyron, you already own a home or twenty, have a huge net worth, a garage full of other cars, and more money than you know what to do with. What does the man who already has it all do? He's buys the most expensive most exclusive hyper-car in the world. I'll bet there are a few Veyron owners out there who also have a GTR.

12-21-2010, 02:48 PM	#1161
BOROSUN Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: two legit to quit Age: 41 Posts: 5,211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah, even if i was rich & balling out of control. i would never ever get a veyron. if i was collecting cars, i would grab a ultra rare cars like the exclusive nissan r390 and gtr-lm. i'll probably have a handful of mclaren f1. those car just inspires me. this would be my daily

12-21-2010, 03:32 PM	#1165
superbike81 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Who Knows? Age: 40 Posts: 393 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Desmosedici RR or go home!