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Old 05-11-2013, 07:23 PM   #181
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Youve never heard of literage being used before?. You must not get out much. Thats ok, I'll stick with my trash SR lol, chances are it is, and will be faster then anything youll have anytime soon lol. Fucking basement nerd getting all strung out over grammar on the interwebs lol. Thats how you know your winning an argument, when someone points out your typo's lol.
Naaaah pretty sure my VG will run miles on your SR motor for motor.
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Naaaah pretty sure my VG will run miles on your SR motor for motor.
Best of luck to you lol. Bro you spelled Nah wrong. Just saying. wtf is motor for motor?. are you suggesting stock, cause mine is far from stock lol.
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Best of luck to you lol. Bro you spelled Nah wrong. Just saying. wtf is motor for motor?. are you suggesting stock, cause mine is far from stock lol.
Don't know what you have done don't care, the way they sit right now.
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D15/b16 na > sr20, rb20, rb26



Here is my 2 cents!
They are both good engines, the RB20 has some advantages over the SR, but it also has some drawbacks.

Rb20 Advantages:
Iron block ( this is also a disadvantage, weight)
Valvtrain
6 cyl, less cylinder load
will rev ( I've personally taken it past 9k, Don't do it though, head gasket goes boom, valve float, etc lol )
Disadvantes:
Makes as much torque as a honda engine
Makes as much power as a honda engine ( out of boost )
Parts are more expensive, you need 2 more of everything ( injectors, spark plugs, etc )
Heavy
Stock pistons look like a kindergardner cut them out by hand

SR20 Advantages:
Quicker spooling
more torque
lighter in weight
easier swap
Cheaper parts
Disadvantages:
stock valvetrain has it's limits/ not as rev happy
Aluminum block ( also weight advantage )
more load per rod
sounds like ass ( personal haha )
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Before you insult me LEARN to spell and use proper grammar half this site has less grammar then a 4th grade English class.

What the fuck is that? literage? I've never heard that word and my firefox can't find a sub for it either.

shouldnt is spelled in shouldn't,

You need a punctuation mark between "grammar" and "half". "Then" what did the 4th grade english class do? I believe you meant that half this site has less grammar "than" a 4th grade English class, not then a 4th grade English class. Im no grammar nazi, but if youre going to criticize someone elses grammar- youd best make sure youre on top of your own first. Proper word selection might be a good place to begin. Id suggest learning the differences between "then" (time) and "than" (comparative).
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:54 PM   #188
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D15/b16 na > sr20det gt35r, rb20deTTT, rb26deTT DUAL T90R POWERED



Here is my 2 cents!
They are both good engines, the RB20 has some advantages over the SR, but it also has some drawbacks.

Rb20 Advantages:
Iron block ( this is also a disadvantage, weight)
Valvtrain
6 cyl, less cylinder load
will rev ( I've personally taken it past 9k, Don't do it though, head gasket goes boom, valve float, etc lol )
Disadvantes:
Makes as much torque as a honda engine
Makes as much power as a honda engine ( out of boost )
Parts are more expensive, you need 2 more of everything ( injectors, spark plugs, etc )
Heavy
Stock pistons look like a kindergardner cut them out by hand

SR20 Advantages:
Quicker spooling
more torque
lighter in weight
easier swap
Cheaper parts
Disadvantages:
stock valvetrain has it's limits/ not as rev happy
Aluminum block ( also weight advantage )
more load per rod
sounds like ass ( personal haha )
*fixed that first part for ya lol*
I will agree to this except the honda tq thing. Ive driven a b16a1 crx and low end on that was a bags of dicks rolling uphill. Drove a ka24 swapped civic 2002 si and was happy when I went back to my rb20det.
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Old 05-18-2013, 01:19 PM   #193
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Ok lets do the math. SR20 is 4 cyl. RB20 is 6 cyl... Ex. Spark plugs are $4 a piece. So 16 vs 24 ducks. THIS PATTERN WILL CONTINUE though rebuilds, coil packs, parts...anything. As far as aftermarket support the SR20 is unsurpassed. Get the SR, the RB is expensive and stupid. If your going RB it better be a RB25 or 26 otherwise you are dumb
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Old 05-18-2013, 01:42 PM   #194
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I'm calling animal control on you. No one should have 16 or 24 ducks laying around, to trade for spark plugs.
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Just go 2jz, you will never regret it. never been a fan of the sr/rb swaps
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Old 05-18-2013, 02:13 PM   #197
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Why can't you guys just let it DIE?!?!?!?
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it will never die!!!^^^ lol
seriously though in all truth im surprised this didn't evolve into a ka vs sr dispute... a inline 6 vs a 4 banger? and both 2.0L? come on peeps obviously the sr is getting way more bang for the liters and cylinders available? less stress because of more cylinders? i can guarantee that there are more things to fix on a broken 6 cylinder than a 4 cylinder. less parts less problems to fix. simple as that. and that goes for V8's too. yes we fucking know a v8 produces large reliable power but no fucking shit it does.... if i saw a 2.0L v8 i would piss myself in laughter at how stupid that is. comparing a v8 to a 4 banger really guys? lay the fuck off. once again im really surprised this didnt turn into a ka vs sr battle because to be completely honest BOTH are 4 bangers, its a 2L vs 2.4L, and honestly boosted(KA) they are close competition as well so for OP if he is even going to look back at this thread... got ka-t or sr because in the end its a good place to start.
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Get out fanboi. Nissan only
Why the fuck not 2JZ? Engine's available in the US, parts are easier to find, you'd have to do the same amount of work compared to an RB25/26 swap (mounts, wiring, driveshafts for the biggie), more HP potential and you dont have to worry about melting your brake master cylinder since the intake and exhaust is flipped.
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Why the fuck not 2JZ? Engine's available in the US, parts are easier to find, you'd have to do the same amount of work compared to an RB25/26 swap (mounts, wiring, driveshafts for the biggie), more HP potential and you dont have to worry about melting your brake master cylinder since the intake and exhaust is flipped.
Thank you... can we be best friends?

@Ultimateirving: Dont get me wrong, I thinkg the RB's are great motors, but they're just to much of a headache to deal with. Like flip said parts are easier to find, I could walk into autozone and pick up a water pump, where as rb I have to order it and wait. its things like that.

I posted this in another thread, but tell me, what motor can handle 1000 hp on stock internals?

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in the world of racing and competition there IS NO replacement for displacement + cylinder head flow. a KA24DET will easily out perform a SR. a RB20 will easily out perform a SR mod for mod.

awwww is the RB too expensive for you? put up or shut up no one gets free hand outs in the world of engines and cars in other words you have to pay to play. at this point 2 liter vs 2 liter ITS ALL ABOUT CYLINDER HEAD FLOW! thats the number 1 thing in any engine. you say LSx? their shitty engines with shit power, compare a LT1 to a LT5 both are the same engine except one is push rod and the other is dohc 4 valves per cylinder.

lt1 = 300hp and 330 ft-lbs torque
LT5 = 375hp and 370 ft-lbs torque. imagine if LSx's engines were DOHC in other words they would make MORE POWER! then what they have.

AWWWW TUNE up's are tp expensive you can't afford 6 spark plugs because mommy and daddy dont have money to spoon feed you for your crazy RB or VG build awww

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@Ultimateirving: Dont get me wrong, I thinkg the RB's are great motors, but they're just to much of a headache to deal with. Like flip said parts are easier to find, I could walk into autozone and pick up a water pump, where as rb I have to order it and wait. its things like that.

I posted this in another thread, but tell me, what motor can handle 1000 hp on stock internals?

2jz
yea... and you will have to wait for the water pump to ship out too.. 3 days shipping depending on your location. if you blew a waterpump and you NEED to be somewhere you're going to call for a ride because a engine is only as good as the owner who maintains it.
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in the world of racing and competition there IS NO replacement for displacement + cylinder head flow. a KA24DET will easily out perform a SR. a RB20 will easily out perform a SR mod for mod.

awwww is the RB too expensive for you? put up or shut up no one gets free hand outs in the world of engines and cars in other words you have to pay to play. at this point 2 liter vs 2 liter ITS ALL ABOUT CYLINDER HEAD FLOW! thats the number 1 thing in any engine. you say LSx? their shitty engines with shit power, compare a LT1 to a LT5 both are the same engine except one is push rod and the other is dohc 4 valves per cylinder.

lt1 = 300hp and 330 ft-lbs torque
LT5 = 375hp and 370 ft-lbs torque. imagine if LSx's engines were DOHC in other words they would make MORE POWER! then what they have.

AWWWW TUNE up's are tp expensive you can't afford 6 spark plugs because mommy and daddy dont have money to spoon feed you for your crazy RB or VG build awww

I know a few hondas N/A that will rape a boosted SR-S13

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in the world of racing and competition there IS NO replacement for displacement + cylinder head flow. a KA24DET will easily out perform a SR. a RB20 will easily out perform a SR mod for mod.
This isnt the world of racing, this is the world of stop and go traffic and long trips on a highway. An RB easily outperform an SR? I wouldn't say easily, but sure it could be done if your pockets are deep enough. Dollar for dollar, no it can't and wont.

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awwww is the RB too expensive for you? put up or shut up no one gets free hand outs in the world of engines and cars in other words you have to pay to play. at this point 2 liter vs 2 liter ITS ALL ABOUT CYLINDER HEAD FLOW! thats the number 1 thing in any engine. you say LSx? their shitty engines with shit power, compare a LT1 to a LT5 both are the same engine except one is push rod and the other is dohc 4 valves per cylinder.
The RB too expensive? You bought the cheapest version you could get your hands on. Then defend it like that's the one you wanted, in reality it was the only one you could afford.

On to your next spout of ridiculousness. The LT5 is nothing like the LT1. That motor was designed by Lotus engineers and was detuned to be put in the Corvette. Mercury later purchased the rights to the motor because GM wanted nothing more to do with it and tuned it to a 1000hp. They evenetually used them in boat racing.

Once again, you apparently do not know what you are talking about.

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Fast NA Honda's sure they are out there, but youll spend more money building the motor to last and make big power than it costs to swap an SR in and go faster with bolt ons.
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Fuck all this talk about which engine is better. Theres so much opinion on which one would be better. How about you build something that you prefer and can afford. I'd like to build a fucking 1000 hp RB26 stroker but I'd never afford it or have the money to maintain it. I could have gone LS1 swap but I prefer the boost over the torque. I had a 500hp SR but I've never had any luck with these POS so I'm now on an RB25.
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The RB too expensive? You bought the cheapest version you could get your hands on. Then defend it like that's the one you wanted, in reality it was the only one you could afford.
NAAAAH Trying to replicate Legit 200ZR yea their cheap but price has little to do with it as parts are not so bad regardless of rb30/20/26/25

who seriously needs 600hp? it's all about APPLICATION! which not many people gauge, for MY application I dont need a engine that makes more power then a RB20.
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:28 PM   #209
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NAAAAH Trying to replicate Legit 200ZR yea their cheap but price has little to do with it as parts are not so bad regardless of rb30/20/26/25

who seriously needs 600hp? it's all about APPLICATION! which not many people gauge, for MY application I dont need a engine that makes more power then a RB20.
NAAAAH. Trying to replicate (a?) Legit 200ZR. Yea they're cheap but (the) price has little to do with it as parts are not so bad regardless of rb30/20/26/25.

Who seriously needs 600hp? It's all about APPLICATION! Which not many people gauge. For MY application I don't need an engine that makes more power than a RB20.

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Are we just throwing this out the window? This is just what I found at first glance without changing the structure too much. Just sayin'.
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:38 PM   #210
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damn it, so burned Buuuuuuurnnnnneeed!!!!
Admins, can u make sure ov1 is not hacking into this guy's accnt? Something's off here.
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