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Old 03-24-2012, 01:52 AM   #3031
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BR-Z isn't going to be any cheaper.

I realize that, but I'm not looking for the base model bargain basement version FR-S. If I'm going to shell out for something brand spanking new, or close to it, I want all the things like Navigation, alcantra and all that jazz. Like most of us here, I already have my no frills "race" car, I'm ready to have an easy to live with, yet fresh and sporty daily that won't need constant attention to enjoy.

Also waiting for a turbo version too, or something closer to a STi/TRD model.


All this being said though, I'm watching very closely to see how it does in the next couple of years. I've still been contemplating a low mileage 350Z, or even a nicer N/A S30. I would just rather stick to wrenching on just one car and not 2.
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2013 Subaru BRZ tested at 0-60 in 7.3 seconds, 1/4 mile in 15.3

This doesn't sound right to me. My 200 Eclipse GT was over 3000 lbs, FWD, and only 205hp and I ran a 15 flat with just an intake. The BRZ is almost 300 lbs lighter.
honestly, it sounds about right. the weight of the car + power is exactly what an S13 with a bone stock SR20det does in the 1/4 mile, the BRZ/GT86/FRS is literally the same thing.
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Mmmmmmmm, looking forward to official model trims and prices. BRZ in black with all the trimmings, and I jizzed in my pants.
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15.3 is automatic with limiters etc. dont remember where, but some magazine tested brz last week (maybe MT) it was a clear 6.5 and 14.9
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nasty pontiacs, i think they could really improve on the solstice but rhys millen's seemed to have come out nicely
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Lots of comments after the reviews that just came out complaining about the unimpressive 0-60, 1/4 mile times. And lots of people whining that they'd be embarrassed to lose stoplight battles to Camrys, minivans, and so on. Who is drag racing from stoplights? S2000 wasn't much faster and it cost about $10k more. I don't know what people expected from an N/A 2L motor. The car sounds like a lot of fun from these reviews. Comparisons to the much heavier and larger Mustang and GC are ridiculous IMO...I prefer smaller, more compact cars and I wouldn't really consider buying either of those.

I think a select few will really enjoy the car, but unless some forced induction shows up to the party, the general public will not and these will flop in the US. In other countries where high displacement, high powered cars are punished by high taxes and expensive gas, I think the car will be relatively popular.
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:38 AM   #3038
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Of course that minivan with a huge V6 and lower gearing is going to jump off the line in comparison to na 2 liter design for handling. lol

More important to me is the slalom compared with similar cars.







And the time on Top Gear's track. lol
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I'm pretty much over the frs/brz atleast until a turbo version comes out.

Can't wait for the new miata.

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idk, the next miata doesn't seem all that ambitious to me. I'd rather they throw a decent engine in there than fuss about the weight. a 150hp engine and 31-ish mpg selling at around 25k isn't much to write home about. Time will tell, but I'd much rather get a used '00 model for 5k or so, or even a lower mileage madzaspeed for $13k-ish.

Wish Mazda wouldn't be so damn conservative with the Miata.

Apparently, Mazda engineers were originally planning to equip the ND with a naturally aspirated 1.5-liter inline-4 with SkyActiv technology, but couldn’t quite squeeze the desired horsepower from the engine. A variant of the current 2.0-liter inline-4 was also considered, but it couldn’t meet their fuel economy goals. Instead Mazda has narrowed it down to either a 1.8-liter inline-4 with SkyActiv or a 1.3- or 1.5-liter inline-4 with forced induction.

Whichever powerplant Mazda decides on, you can expect the car to produce roughly


150 bhp with about a 10-percent improvement in fuel economy from the current MX-5’s (22 city/28 highway mpg). Another major focal point of the future MX-5 is weight. We hear the engineers are working feverishly to reduce the car’s mass to 2200 lb. or less, which means shaving about 200 lb. out of the NC while retaining its exterior dimensions. Let’s hope that Mazda can keep the price of the new MX-5 below the $25,000 mark, another main goal of the development team. Look for the MX-5 in 2014.
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:11 PM   #3041
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Wow that's wicked looking! Kind of tempted to check it out in person when it arrives!
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Time will tell, but I'd much rather get a used '00 model for 5k or so, or even a lower mileage madzaspeed for $13k-ish.
I agree, but I never buy new cars. I just watch all these new cars from the sidelines, and buy an old 996 for $10k or an e36 m3 for $500 and then throw an LSx in it. My race car is an 00 spec miata and it's a blast, for way less than $25k. $25k buys you a lot in the used market and even more if you are into project cars.

On the weight, I would rather see the miata with less weight then more hp.
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has anyone heard about an s16 supposeably being released this year ?
a friend of mine is a nissan employee and has been told that they will be releaseing a s16 to the states this year to comepete with the frs genesis brz etc
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a friend of mine is a nissan employee and has been told that they will be releaseing a s16 to the states this year to comepete with the frs genesis brz etc
Lol. I'm loling.
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And with that we are 6 steps closer to the inevitable LS1 swap.
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I am very disappointed with V8 swap.... I don't any point using that car at all....

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that things sure does look sexy drifting though.
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I can see swapping a V8 versus trying to get equivalent power out of a brand new Subaru boxer with DI, 2.0L displacement, and 12.5:1 CR.
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boy they didn't waste any time did they? lol

and they've even got it looking like a heap of shit missle car
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I can see swapping a V8 versus trying to get equivalent power out of a brand new Subaru boxer with DI, 2.0L displacement, and 12.5:1 CR.

Or just swap an EJ25 like everyone else..
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has anyone heard about an s16 supposeably being released this year ?
a friend of mine is a nissan employee and has been told that they will be releaseing a s16 to the states this year to comepete with the frs genesis brz etc
Actually, Modified Magazine had a small article in it with this same info.. Not alot of details, but they hinted at Nissan producing an S16 in the states to compete with the FR-S and BRZ.. Not this year, but in the near future, maybe. Im just saying, this guy is not the only one to hear this word... It may be a longshot, and it may never happen, or may take a few years to happen, but it's not something to count out completely.
Here is the link to the Modified article, so you know Im not just talking out of my ass.
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Also read in another article that it will still be rwd, front engine, about 2800lbs, and come with a 1.8l turbo engine with about 200hp. Again, not saying any of this is true, just saying that there are "rumors" out about it.
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until nissan comes out like on their datsun revival. its only as real as the tooth fairy.
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Ya, true, I was just saying that I have heard about it too. I never said they have a set production date for it, just that I heard rumors about it.
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