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11-13-2012, 07:56 PM | #1 |
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Well, No one wants to talk about this. It seems the mere mention sends people into panic and severely distorts their ability to have a civilized rational discussion about it.
Personally I say its like an abusive relationship, or a relationship at all for that matter: if the person wants out...let them the fuck out. Why try to kidnap someone and make them unhappy. Everyone seems to think that it will automatically cause anarchy and social collapse of EVERYTHING. I say it will bring about new ideals, good or bad. New markets, new ways of thinking etc. I think most people are tired of the old money prudes that have been in power way too long. Their way of thinking is rapidly, if not already, becoming an archaic way of thinking. Discuss
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11-15-2012, 08:24 AM | #3 |
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Lincoln himself said, "This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it."
I think secession isn't the right way to go about it, and it will never happen. Nothing will ever happen to get the American people off their lazy asses and actually caring about freedom. We gave up freedom for convenience back in the early part of the 20th century and nothing will turn us back. |
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People don't care these days. I don't see it happening.
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Anyway, a satirical response floating around Facebook right now: As a resident of one of the states with a petition up, I HIGHLY doubt many people with good reason to have thought this through are behind this.
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didnt the right criticize the left for talking about to moving to Canada if McCain was elected or bush for that matter? yet when the left wins the office they cry succession. It really shows the lack of intelligence and maturity in some of the people in our country. Its like a kid getting mad and taking his ball and going home when he loses a game. Suck it up and try again in 4 years, quite making everyone in the party look like hicks.
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11-15-2012, 10:06 PM | #9 |
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Keep talking of revolt and Obama will kill your ass with a Predator drone.
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11-16-2012, 05:37 AM | #11 |
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Oh, and secession is about as real as a rainbow colored unicorn. Congrats to the other idiots who signed these petitions on a government website and database. Hope none of you ever want a job that requires any type of clearance!
Lets get back to the real issues - like why has the socialist government taken down the most important petition ever! WHY CAN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NOT PUNCH GROVER NORQUIST SQUARE IN THE NUTS!!! I demand answers... Petition To Punch Grover Norquist In Dick Removed From White House Petition Site |
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I'm from Texas and the state votes on this shit all the time. You always hear about this shit when a Democrat is in office. In the past 10 years Texas has not even balanced its own budget without slashing school budgets, laying off state employees, or taking stimulus money and lying about it. There is a big segment of the state that believes if it's not white, it's not right. Can you imagine that quarter of the state its illegal to have alcohol. The religious right has control of the state and anyone who threatens their control,is considered not American. They did the same thing with President Clinton. Whats said is the attack ads on Anne Richard are second female governor, some ads basically said she didn't know her place. Can you imagine the ads ran against any one of color. NOT ALL STATES, share such a radical agenda as Texas. As an active duty military member, I'm frustrated with the federal government. From the lack of raising revenue which pays my salary and buys the equipment needed to rage war, to the lack of infrastructure throughout this country. Does this mean I need to sign a petition to succeed, HELL NO!
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11-16-2012, 03:14 PM | #16 |
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^^ We have to many vets and milita memebers. It would be a slaughter, we are 10k plus strong. Here is one of our state's larger groups!
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11-16-2012, 07:08 PM | #19 |
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Texas will turn Blue (Democratic) before it secedes. The Latino vote will only get stronger there and then the Republicans will be really screwed considering Dems have Cali, NY and at some point, Texas.
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11-16-2012, 07:09 PM | #20 | |
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Oh, that right, we live by a set of rules and laws. What about Abdulrahman al-Aulaqi, Awlaki's son, who was killed in a separate strike two weeks latter, he was only 16 years old. You realize there has been no one executed in America under the age of 23 since 1950 and only 22 people since then have been sentenced to death for crimes committed under the age of 18. Only one of them was 16 years old at the time and had 12 years of appeals. So yes, these are bad people... they say and do bad things. But they still are American citizens who where killed exclusively by the will of the president. Since when did we throw away the moratorium on banning assassinations? Why not just kill Mahmoud Ahmadinejad? |
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Lol, i say let these few people in these "sussion" states decide the fate of their fellow statesmen, and leave our fine union. Wouldn't be a matter of time before they realize the grave mistake made and more than likely either burn, or somehow rejoin the union under worse than comfortable circumstances.... But my true opinion. How sick and twisted are some people. In the most simplest regards, it truly is a bunch of butt-hurt folks crying that obama is president, so much so, that they think they should decide the fate of everyone in their state with some lame ass petition. Shame on them...Im assuming when i say this, but they try so hard to cry about something, when what they should be doing, is initiating change at the levels change can happen at....even if its something i dis-agree with personally, i would (esp if i was a member of said state) respect a person more for truly following their goal/passion/desire with utmost and strategic urgency, than some hick ass fool complaining that the president is black...and their lambo is blue.. And on the quoted posters comments...I agree. They are already borderline mexico. Without the US government support, texas would fall within a year to drug cartels....
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I'm going to start a petition to mother nature asking her to have an earthquake large enough for California to break off from the rest of the United States of America, effectively "susseeding" us from the union.
Drone strike us all you like, we'll deflect all of them with socialism and free health care.
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oh come the "f" on.....You know, if you ask half the tards who say "we dont want obama in the whitehouse" their is one side that will spout some Fox News BS, and another that will have no reason but seem to try and stutter "obamacare".....Its retarded...And you know it. Its almost as if they want to just sit back and say...Its because he is a black man....Look at all the states that voted against him...Mostly in the south....You cant tell me, that most of the tards that want "sussion" aren't generally concerned, not with the affiliation of our president to one thing or another, but more so, his skin tone..
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11-17-2012, 08:36 AM | #25 |
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Just like if you asked half the fuck tards why they want him they'll spout off some MSNBC bullshit garbage about Hope, change and Bush's fault. The other half only wanted him because he's black, well spoken and the Internet makes cool memes of him.
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On the subject of Obama and succession, does anyone else find the fucktards that say "oh im moving to Canada" or "im moving to England/austalia, etc." as funny as I do?
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Can anyone on Zilvia properly spell "secede" or "secession" as it relates to this topic?
Just because spellcheck doesn't light your word on fire doesn't mean that you've selected the proper word. Wise quotes and philosophies are only applicable when you spell things correctly, and make use of proper grammar. This will remain key to your being taken seriously, and "well this is the internet and not an English class" goes out the window when you approach a subject like this one. Quote:
Yes, those types are HILARIOUS! The power of being white and angry only works in America, and the fact that Mitt Romney is only dropping in to continue to be a sore loser with stupid-fuck quotes to ignore that he was his own biggest problem shows us why.
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It's moar fun to pretend to be ignorant on the internet, than actually use your brain and type something thoughtful here.
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