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11-19-2020, 06:36 PM | #1 |
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s13 sr20det fuel/injector issue
I'm very ashamed of making this thread, maybe I'm loosing my touch. Ive had this sr for years! It ran really good no issue prior this. I did the swap my self.
One of my injectors went out over the weekend. I checked voltage to the plugs and knew It was the injector. I ordered a 370cc 300zx tt injector, I received it today. I did not use new orings. I put the injector on and now the car doesn't start. It cranks all day, maybe some firing up for a sec then cranks. What in the world? There is no fuel leaks, no fuel coming out from the rail. I did make the mistake the leave the key on while I was pulling the injector and a bunch of fuel dumped in the rail. Could that be it? Orange cable in the ecu plug has power only when the switch is on, so that's good. there is power to all plugs, there is fuel. Any ideas? Im like in shock that I cant figure this out lol This a s13 sr20det. Mostly stock. Help |
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11-20-2020, 01:14 AM | #2 |
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If you dumped a bunch of fuel into the cylinder the first time you spun it over you might want to change your oil.
Did you disconnect the fuel pump relay fuse or anything? |
11-20-2020, 04:31 PM | #4 | |
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I never disconnected the fuel lines, the car was running like a pro before the injector problem. I replaced the fuel injector, pulled all the plugs, they smelled like fuel, cleaned them up really good. checked for spark, at first it looked like there wasn't any, then I disconnected the ignited plugged back and there was spark. Put everything back together and now the car runs, it runs like shit and there is FUEL SPEWING from the exhaust manifold. Thoughts? |
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11-20-2020, 05:13 PM | #6 |
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Crank the car with the rail off and check the spray pattern from the new injector to the orignals
And where did u get the replacement injector? Is it oem, new, used, ebay? |
11-21-2020, 01:36 PM | #7 |
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11-22-2020, 03:21 PM | #9 |
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I have replaced the ignitor, the car fired right up!
I drained the old oil that was flooded with gas and put fresh oil and a filter. I'm not getting this horrible sound. Is this a knock? a valve? lifter? This car was running great no issue whatsoever, but again, I only drive it a few times a year. Pls let me know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ17...f7BYPlwUy9GmgU |
11-23-2020, 12:16 PM | #11 |
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11-23-2020, 06:29 AM | #12 |
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just to make sure, pick up a mechanics stethoscope, 5 bucks at harbor freight. Poke around with that to pinpoint the location.
https://www.harborfreight.com/mechan...SABEgLWiPD_BwE
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11-23-2020, 11:28 AM | #13 | |
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I think I bent a valve because of the fuel and hydrolocking, I'm pulling the head out to inspect. |
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11-23-2020, 12:42 PM | #14 | |
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11-24-2020, 03:24 AM | #15 |
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You should have done a power balance test before pulling the head. Your sound problem is under the valve cover. Since you have the head off, might as well rebuild??!
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11-24-2020, 01:31 PM | #16 | |
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I have arp studs on the head and they are being a royal pain to loosen them up. Im afraid of stripping them. |
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11-24-2020, 04:27 PM | #17 | |
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11-24-2020, 04:32 PM | #19 |
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Someone was not kind to that engine....lots of boost and no tuning/fuel....
Its time for a rebuild. This still doesnt explain the valve train noise Lifters-when u press down on them they shouldnt move at all. Should not beable to squeeze them, no play |
11-25-2020, 02:35 PM | #20 | |
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And, have you ever pull the engine out without taking the transmission. I have always pulled both. But since the head is out along with the intake and exhaust manifold, it would be so easy to get the block out. Has anyone done? How hard was it to put the engine back in? Last edited by dsastr_clan; 11-25-2020 at 03:33 PM.. |
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11-26-2020, 04:33 PM | #21 | |
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Micrometers too while you're at it. |
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11-27-2020, 06:27 PM | #22 |
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took the motor out no tranny, I may have to pull the tranny later when I put it back in. Whoknows!
but, all of the sudden I'm building this sr i guess! never done anything like this before, one thing led to the other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RSZ...lqZs8MmvaDx-q0 |
11-25-2020, 04:25 PM | #23 |
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Just pull it with the trans attached...it will alot easier to reinstall it for u, then tryn to line up the input shaft.
As for a rebuild..... download the sr20 fsm. Please! Follow it to the T. Keep everything as clean as possiable. Your gonna have to invest in good tools...torque wrench and calipers to measure bearings and clearences! You can just buy parts, slap together and good togo. Taking the time and doing it right is everything. And what ever you planned out to spend(you know parts list) times it by 4!! Good look |
11-27-2020, 06:43 PM | #24 | |
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i did just the motor only for now..... something tells me that Im gonna need to bring the tranny down at some point. |
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11-25-2020, 05:08 PM | #25 |
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https://forums.nicoclub.com/diy-rebu...t-t309576.html
I’ve used this guide twice with no problems whatsoever |
11-27-2020, 06:42 PM | #26 | |
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11-28-2020, 06:03 AM | #27 |
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Pay very close attention to taken the motor apart. ALL the internals are assembled a certain way.
Cam caps have a specific spot they go, side there on and direction they face. Same goes for main and rod caps. All parts need tobe free of contaminants. Need to measure EVERYTHING, check for proper clearance and tolerance. If you do not, ur just tearing money up. Sr20 are a simple engine to disassemble and rebuild but it needs tobe done 100% correct. Not 80% or 95% 100% to be done right |
11-30-2020, 12:28 PM | #28 | |
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I 100% agree! I'm gonna take the block to a shop for a honing( well for an inspection) What are the chances that I may need oversize pistons? Should I wait for the shop to tell me? Do you always need oversize pistons when you take the block out for a honing? |
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11-30-2020, 01:03 PM | #29 | |
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if they are just honed, you will most likely need new piston rings, and to perform the piston ring gap procedure, to make sure the gap matches the factory recommended spec if the bores are machined, THEN you will need oversize pistons, and those pistons should come with new rings. you will still need to make sure the new rings have the correct gap, according to the piston manufacturers recommended spec. |
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11-30-2020, 02:19 PM | #30 | |
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