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Jlrios18 · 06-14-2011, 01:35 PM

I have more than 3000 dollars, and I dont know what to do with it. Should I go for a rebuild? Or modifications from radiator all the way to the exhaust tip?
Help Me!!!!
A list of everything would be cool

I have a 1995 Nissan 240SX SE in WA where gas is 92 Octane and going for non-turbo all the way

irax · 06-14-2011, 04:13 PM

how is the rest of the car?
how is the suspension, the brakes, the power steering system ?
how is the diff and axles?
how is the paint body and glass?

we are not going to budget your 'build' for you but most of us will put you in the right direction. What is your HP goals? Is there anything in particular that you desire out of it?

jesse_s13 · 06-14-2011, 04:15 PM

$3000 budget and non turbo? wth.... ='(

irax · 06-14-2011, 04:18 PM

3k budget non turbo could be enough to go High-comp with ITB's, and updraft headers... not enough for drysump, cams, tuning

theboy · 06-14-2011, 04:27 PM

im all for a ka build, but 3k is a little light for a ka-t build. Run n/a and dump it all in a suspension. OR you can always donate the $3k to me and ill spend it wisely after sending you a thank you card

Jlrios18 · 06-14-2011, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irax

how is the rest of the car?
how is the suspension, the brakes, the power steering system ?
how is the diff and axles?
how is the paint body and glass?

we are not going to budget your 'build' for you but most of us will put you in the right direction. What is your HP goals? Is there anything in particular that you desire out of it?

Well the suspension is good and the body is good.
Im going more for performance because i already have a new clutch, flywheel, driveshaft, short shifter, and etc.

Like anyones goal...hopefully anything above 200HP. 250HP?

KiLLeR2001 · 06-14-2011, 04:38 PM

You need to read this forum more before posting again. Within the next couple months you'll look back on this thread and realize all the answers were right in front of you. That's if you make it that long...

Jlrios18 · 06-14-2011, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theboy

im all for a ka build, but 3k is a little light for a ka-t build. Run n/a and dump it all in a suspension. OR you can always donate the $3k to me and ill spend it wisely after sending you a thank you card

Yea you're funny.

I'm not necessarily going into drifting either

Jlrios18 · 06-14-2011, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

You need to read this forum more before posting again. Within the next couple months you'll look back on this thread and realize all the answers were right in front of you. That's if you make it that long...

I have been reading, and there are many directions I can go through with, but I want more variety of everything, not just a whole stroker kit per say.

shahabshaukat · 06-14-2011, 04:48 PM

if your goal is anywhere close to 250hp throw on a turbo kit and get a good tune. dont waste your time and money with NA.

irax · 06-14-2011, 04:52 PM

he can do 250 NA but he is massively underbudget
200 is pretty "simple" to do NA

nate1 · 06-15-2011, 07:48 AM

3k will buy u a lot of bolt ons for a na ka, but its not enought for a full build here are some web sites that have good info for n/a, they have dyno charts to let u see just how much power your really going to make. none of that what people think it will make. im building one my self and its a fun car just not very fast at all. i get raped by hondas

-http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/cam_corner.html
-http://www.nistune.com/
-http://www.ka24development.com/
pm me if u need any more help

Carbomb · 06-15-2011, 07:50 AM

alum crank pulley
alum flywheel
alum ds 1 piece
rom tune for na ka
header exh and a intake tube.

you'll have around 200 hp with nice response.

dont waste money on stroker kits n shit. buy a ls1 if you want to have power 3k will get you one.

EDT007 · 06-15-2011, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toadstool

alum crank pulley
alum flywheel
alum ds 1 piece
rom tune for na ka
header exh and a intake tube.

you'll have around 200 hp with nice response.

dont waste money on stroker kits n shit. buy a ls1 if you want to have power 3k will get you one.

Please tell me your kidding...you think those few parts will get him 200hp..Do you even know what a stock KA24DE motor puts down!?
OP, if you want power but without going turbo, have you ever thought of supercharging. Do a search and you'll see there's a few people pulling the #'s you're looking for and they did it in on a pretty good budget (junkyard time).

Carbomb · 06-15-2011, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDT007

Please tell me your kidding...you think those few parts will get him 200hp..Do you even know what a stock KA24DE motor puts down!?
OP, if you want power but without going turbo, have you ever thought of supercharging. Do a search and you'll see there's a few people pulling the #'s you're looking for and they did it in on a pretty good budget (junkyard time).

Myself and My buddy had this set up with his tune for s13.
I will say he did about 20 hours of tuning to get it super awesome
we had ka's that BEAT sr's drag racing. jus sayn.

but you can force him into turbo sure... Id force him into v8 and skip the headache

Tantwoforty · 06-15-2011, 08:05 AM

dont forget... 3k will buy you a sr swap and after selling your ka you will have enough for a few goodies, easy 250hp.. easy..
or a ls1

na ka sucks if your going for a specific hp number.. getting over 200hp is pretty difficult.. and way expensive

....why are you against turbo?

EDT007 · 06-15-2011, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toadstool

Myself and My buddy had this set up with his tune for s13.
I will say he did about 20 hours of tuning to get it super awesome
we had ka's that BEAT sr's drag racing. jus sayn.

but you can force him into turbo sure... Id force him into v8 and skip the headache

not trying to sound like an ass but I highly doubt it. Not with just those parts. MAYBE with some high-comp pistons, cams, ITB's.

nate1 · 06-15-2011, 08:48 AM

this never ends with out a fight and people trying to tell some na guy just to go turbo lol

heres a dyno chart of a ka withintake, pulley, header, cams and tuning on a dynojet, these dynos read the highest
http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/DOHC_stage2.html

irax · 06-15-2011, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tantwoforty

dont forget... 3k will buy you a sr swap and after selling your ka you will have enough for a few goodies, easy 250hp.. easy..
or a ls1

na ka sucks if your going for a specific hp number.. getting over 200hp is pretty difficult.. and way expensive

....why are you against turbo?

ls1 swap for 3k.... pfffft that will be the day, even if he gets 800 for his KA and trans he's still 1500 short of a finished and running car

Jlrios18 · 06-15-2011, 06:12 PM

Well guys thanks for the suggestions but I think ill just stick to a rebuild with stock internals. I'll do some things here and there and probably put some Work Meisters!

P.S. LS1 is an alright engine, but I'd rather stick to Japan.

Jlrios18 · 06-15-2011, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nate1

3k will buy u a lot of bolt ons for a na ka, but its not enought for a full build here are some web sites that have good info for n/a, they have dyno charts to let u see just how much power your really going to make. none of that what people think it will make. im building one my self and its a fun car just not very fast at all. i get raped by hondas

-http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/cam_corner.html
-http://www.nistune.com/
-http://www.ka24development.com/
pm me if u need any more help

Thanks man
Which one do you remember...greedy tic exhaust or hks exhaust?

nate1 · 06-16-2011, 05:59 AM

do u mean recommend? if so i would say go with the apexi noir its 2.7 inches its desined with n/a in mind and it will keep the nosie down so u can lisen to music when u drive. on my n/a i have a 5zigen concept G with a cat, its 3inches and its WAY louder than my sr 240 with no cat and a apexi gt spec exhuast and that one is over 3.5 inches!

Jlrios18 · 06-16-2011, 01:33 PM

Alright cool!
Thanks mAn

Tantwoforty · 06-18-2011, 11:48 AM

i like the route you choose.. good rebuild and leave it mostly alone and take good care of it.. good plugs good wires good oil and i/h/e it will be pretty quick compared to stock.. i had lots of fun in mine when it was like that just dont skimp on quality engine parts and you wont be let down

best of luck!

Jlrios18 · 06-18-2011, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tantwoforty

i like the route you choose.. good rebuild and leave it mostly alone and take good care of it.. good plugs good wires good oil and i/h/e it will be pretty quick compared to stock.. i had lots of fun in mine when it was like that just dont skimp on quality engine parts and you wont be let down

best of luck!

So it wouldn't be a good idea to go all Brian Crower?

Tantwoforty · 06-18-2011, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jlrios18

So it wouldn't be a good idea to go all Brian Crower?

nah.. you only need valves/springs/retainers for stage 3 cams.

and stage 3 cams suck ass to daily.. its too loby in the ka

i would get the stage 1 or maybe 2 cams and leave it at that.. just slap them right in.. should gain like 18hp or something and it makes a better powerband and the valve train will be fine forever0

turbo-travis · 06-23-2011, 11:21 AM

I wouldn't waste my time or money on an N/A KA, Just put the money into some nice coilovers, nice wheels, polyurathane bushing kit, exhaust, and have a clean 240

koji187 · 07-12-2011, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irax

3k budget non turbo could be enough to go High-comp with ITB's, and updraft headers... not enough for drysump, cams, tuning

What do you mean by "High-comp"?

06-14-2011, 01:35 PM	#1
Jlrios18 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Wenatchee, WA Age: 29 Posts: 401 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	$3000 Budget for KA24DE I have more than 3000 dollars, and I dont know what to do with it. Should I go for a rebuild? Or modifications from radiator all the way to the exhaust tip? Help Me!!!! A list of everything would be cool I have a 1995 Nissan 240SX SE in WA where gas is 92 Octane and going for non-turbo all the way

06-14-2011, 04:13 PM	#2
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	how is the rest of the car? how is the suspension, the brakes, the power steering system ? how is the diff and axles? how is the paint body and glass? we are not going to budget your 'build' for you but most of us will put you in the right direction. What is your HP goals? Is there anything in particular that you desire out of it? __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

06-14-2011, 04:15 PM	#3
jesse_s13 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Sacramento,CA/Fresno,CA/El Paso,Tx Posts: 1,829 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	$3000 budget and non turbo? wth.... ='( __________________

06-14-2011, 04:18 PM	#4
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	3k budget non turbo could be enough to go High-comp with ITB's, and updraft headers... not enough for drysump, cams, tuning __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

06-14-2011, 04:38 PM	#7
KiLLeR2001 Post Whore! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: オーランドフロリダ Posts: 7,955 Trader Rating: (46) Feedback Score: 46 reviews	You need to read this forum more before posting again. Within the next couple months you'll look back on this thread and realize all the answers were right in front of you. That's if you make it that long... __________________

06-14-2011, 04:27 PM	#5
theboy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago Age: 32 Posts: 618 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	im all for a ka build, but 3k is a little light for a ka-t build. Run n/a and dump it all in a suspension. OR you can always donate the $3k to me and ill spend it wisely after sending you a thank you card

06-14-2011, 04:48 PM	#10
shahabshaukat Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: wpb Posts: 252 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	if your goal is anywhere close to 250hp throw on a turbo kit and get a good tune. dont waste your time and money with NA. __________________ I just can't get away from the s13......it keeps pulling me back in

06-14-2011, 04:52 PM	#11
irax Post Whore! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Age: 37 Posts: 4,248 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	he can do 250 NA but he is massively underbudget 200 is pretty "simple" to do NA __________________ Drives a BRZ and is building a V6 S12 coupe.

06-15-2011, 07:48 AM	#12
nate1 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: harrisburg/philly Age: 35 Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	3k will buy u a lot of bolt ons for a na ka, but its not enought for a full build here are some web sites that have good info for n/a, they have dyno charts to let u see just how much power your really going to make. none of that what people think it will make. im building one my self and its a fun car just not very fast at all. i get raped by hondas -http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/cam_corner.html -http://www.nistune.com/ -http://www.ka24development.com/ pm me if u need any more help

06-15-2011, 07:50 AM	#13
Carbomb Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Age: 33 Posts: 318 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	alum crank pulley alum flywheel alum ds 1 piece rom tune for na ka header exh and a intake tube. you'll have around 200 hp with nice response. dont waste money on stroker kits n shit. buy a ls1 if you want to have power 3k will get you one.

06-15-2011, 08:05 AM	#16
Tantwoforty Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Riverside ca Age: 31 Posts: 1,890 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	dont forget... 3k will buy you a sr swap and after selling your ka you will have enough for a few goodies, easy 250hp.. easy.. or a ls1 na ka sucks if your going for a specific hp number.. getting over 200hp is pretty difficult.. and way expensive ....why are you against turbo?

06-15-2011, 08:48 AM	#18
nate1 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: harrisburg/philly Age: 35 Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	this never ends with out a fight and people trying to tell some na guy just to go turbo lol heres a dyno chart of a ka withintake, pulley, header, cams and tuning on a dynojet, these dynos read the highest http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/DOHC_stage2.html Last edited by nate1; 06-15-2011 at 08:54 AM.. Reason: add more info

06-15-2011, 06:12 PM	#20
Jlrios18 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Wenatchee, WA Age: 29 Posts: 401 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Well guys thanks for the suggestions but I think ill just stick to a rebuild with stock internals. I'll do some things here and there and probably put some Work Meisters! P.S. LS1 is an alright engine, but I'd rather stick to Japan.

06-16-2011, 05:59 AM	#22
nate1 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: harrisburg/philly Age: 35 Posts: 204 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	do u mean recommend? if so i would say go with the apexi noir its 2.7 inches its desined with n/a in mind and it will keep the nosie down so u can lisen to music when u drive. on my n/a i have a 5zigen concept G with a cat, its 3inches and its WAY louder than my sr 240 with no cat and a apexi gt spec exhuast and that one is over 3.5 inches!

06-16-2011, 01:33 PM	#23
Jlrios18 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Wenatchee, WA Age: 29 Posts: 401 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Alright cool! Thanks mAn

06-18-2011, 11:48 AM	#24
Tantwoforty Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2009 Location: Riverside ca Age: 31 Posts: 1,890 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	i like the route you choose.. good rebuild and leave it mostly alone and take good care of it.. good plugs good wires good oil and i/h/e it will be pretty quick compared to stock.. i had lots of fun in mine when it was like that just dont skimp on quality engine parts and you wont be let down best of luck!

06-23-2011, 11:21 AM	#27
turbo-travis Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 210 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I wouldn't waste my time or money on an N/A KA, Just put the money into some nice coilovers, nice wheels, polyurathane bushing kit, exhaust, and have a clean 240

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