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Old 06-02-2005, 11:47 PM   #31
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haha yeah... saw how boostdesigns tried to say his new shit is better and all with numbers to back it up.... when he should of said... "i went cheap and im going to screw all you guys..... " hahahaha
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Another assinine comment from you. I said I'm "fairly good at debating 1v1". I don't think you have another forum to strip my moderation from.
Anyway, it wasn't 5 forums I took this to. It was 2. TR is now deleted, and FA never even recieved the "banned from KA-T.org" sentence. Just FYI.
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yea, you delted half the crap which i could prove to other people you showed disrespect to me (mentioning my full name on Tampa Racing forums and my website business dealings with XAT Racing, etc which is none of your business sir).

i always show respect until proven otherwise.

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Old 06-03-2005, 12:13 AM   #33
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Why are you continuing arguing about something publicly and calling Jeff out and then telling people to stay out of it. Take your own advice and take it to pm's. Shit.
because I (co-owner of KA-T.org) have been mentioned in this thread which I feel has been mentioned thoughtlessly in reaction to other issues.

Boost Designs was removed from issues that are beyond Jeff's understanding or assumptions.

I hate when people post, and then you quote it and they've already deleted or edited their post when you click submit. lol

and im done with this thread.
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Old 06-03-2005, 12:20 AM   #34
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HAHA. Yeah I felt it added to the fire and took it back. To late I guess.
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Old 06-03-2005, 12:30 AM   #35
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Co-own yourself back to KA-T.org. I never claimed to list or even have understanding of why BD was removed. I simply stated they were. But.. you seem to not pay attention to these things.. "facts," if you will. Another Fact you may wish to skip over is the fact your name was never mentioned in here. You took it upon yourself to thrust your name into this thread to state (again) why I was banned. If only I'd have gotten an email or warning from KA-T.org. And.. signing off AIM mid-conversation was a nice touch.


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wow, i never really knew BD had it that bad. I was thinkin about gettin my KA-T their. Thanks to the Trusty Z-Team, the people of ForumLand are safe.

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yea, you delted half the crap which i could prove to other people you showed disrespect to me (mentioning my full name on Tampa Racing forums and my website business dealings with XAT Racing, etc which is none of your business sir).

i always show respect until proven otherwise.

Anyways, its asinine.
Full name? The one which resides at the bottom of every website you've built. That top-secret name? Website business dealings? The fact that you built the site (again, your full name is on it).. combined with pricing knowledge I've gained from building sites myself.. revealed your business dealings. Ok. The quote was "XAT just paid [name omitted] a (sizeable?) sum of money to update their site and highlight the fact..." Sorry I deleted that. However, your objection at that quote is sad, and only our friendship made me delete it. Now that's apparently gone, so is my patience with apologizing for stupid shit.
Sorry I made a guess at the fact you redid their site with flash and it cost them a decent ammount of money. Sorry I listed your full name. Maybe I shouldn't link that .pdf of your resume you have linked on your business site.

However, that quote was listed to get one guy (XAT nutswinger) off my back. Which resulted in one closeminded KA-T.org co-owner on my back. Over nothing, in reality. Yet I apologized and deleted it.. and you regressed to 12 years old.

And Smog-Tech, members need to log in to see those pics. Can you host them, by chance? Or upload as an attachment? Otherwise, most of those are on the NICO link.
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From the exterior, it doesn't look half bad (but im no welding-god) so it'd look buy-able. once i saw that Superior welding inside, it made my balls shrivel.

But an offtopic question, would that kind of welding (in those pictures) really make a noticeable difference in performance? I'm just tryin to learn.
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Old 06-03-2005, 01:41 AM   #42
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How does that manifold not fall apart? Or maybe it does. Just like the people that made it...
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CHILDREN!!! BE NICE or you will be sent to the corner!!!! And it seems as though those KAT guys are really hating on sr20s.
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And it seems as though those KAT guys are really hating on sr20s.
Most sadly of all, it's Jeff's attempt to prevent that from happening that got him barned.
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yea, they seem worse than our sr20 guys. They didnt even take jeffs post into considerations but were more on the balls of that GLAD guy
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regarding the BD mani and DP that they shipped out, WTF is with the wastegate routing? It looks like it would divert exhaust gas coming out of the turbine discharge back into the exhaust...which is where it would go anyways. how the hell do you control boost by managing exhaust gas after it passes through the turbo?
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if you look at the old style mani... waste gate flange is before the turbo on the mani... this new manifold looks like trash... so if your asking about the new one.. i have no clue....
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mentioning my full name on Tampa Racing forums and my website business dealings with XAT Racing, etc which is none of your business sir

quick question. if everything you do is on the up and up why would it matter if jeff puts your full name and website dealings on a billboard in central park? i don't like shady bullcrap and from what i've observed thus far you don't seem to be too honest when it comes to personal dealings.

the fact that your forum's banning of him could be t he direct result of more people wasting money on inferior products only indicates that you lack the backbone needed to be a useful member of society.
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The new manifold is made to have a "weldless" inside. HA! And designed to flow the exhaust gas directly into the turbine blades. Now, if this were the correct way to go about it, Full Race wouldn't have a giant pulse collector. Nor would PK, or Peak Boost, or any other manifold manufacturer.
The manifold, which is STILL listed as equal length on their site, has been changed to something that looks like a tubular style RevHard manifold.

The wastegate routing seems to be cosmetic. If the turbo wasn't internally gated, that piping wouldn't work I don't think. See.. to get to the wastegate, the exhaust would have already needed to go through the turbine blades to exit the snail. That negates the effect a WG would have.

Finally, the welds are nice. Never complained about them, even on my manifold. Weldless interior? Ha. There *will* be vibration in there. And that *will* disrupt flow. As does cramming individual pulses together, then direct into the turbine blades. That thing flows like crap in theory. And if he has flow numbers.. he needed to post them, and not a BS 21.7% better statement.
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mentioning my full name on Tampa Racing forums and my website business dealings with XAT Racing, etc which is none of your business sir

quick question. if everything you do is on the up and up why would it matter if jeff puts your full name and website dealings on a billboard in central park? i don't like shady bullcrap and from what i've observed thus far you don't seem to be too honest when it comes to personal dealings.

the fact that your forum's banning of him could be t he direct result of more people wasting money on inferior products only indicates that you lack the backbone needed to be a useful member of society.


Those people's money should be on your conscience.

...and after seeing that "Weldless" inside I am considering grinding all the welds of the inside of my manifold so as to promote better flow.
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After being told that things aren't my business (although what products a company carries are the business of the customer), I've been vindicated by Scott (Enthalpy). Going directly against what Klattr has been saying. See.. busy people, like Scott, have better things to do than read every post on every forum, and alot of what gets said is never found out. The TampaRacing post, the one which Klattr had the issue with, and was a catalyst in him powertripping and removing my moderator status on phatka-t forums, was how Enthalpy found out about the lies Boost Designs was spreading and smearing Enthalpy's name. So, something good came out of that clusterfuck.
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nobody ever should run a mani that doesnt have full penetration welds.. just because it looks good on the outside the inside is just crap....someone needs to get nailed to a piece of wood... doesnt he charge like 500 for his mani's what a rip
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ive been running a bd mani and dp for 4 months now on and off. its cracked on me twice right where the 4 runners collect and the wastegate runner comes out.

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Screw "PJ" I don't even think he was a tuner, he was just a sales rep selling bogus products.
Atleast www.nizzx.com is still around and a reputable company.
All I know from most of my friends that delt with PJ is that B.S always came from him, all talk, no action.
Hey PJ shout out to you " I hope you drown in debt and your own B.S, you piece o crap".....
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By the way NIZZX sells cast iron mani's will never crack and only get stronger with heat.
Really? cause their Coding sucks...
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Old 06-03-2005, 10:46 PM   #59
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businesses raise, business fall. Depending on customer support, and product quality, you could have had one badass company, but you dropped the ball.

Wonder whats really running thru their minds right now, knowing they are underfire for halfassed products.
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Wow, I had no idea thi was all going on.


I am the other owner of ka-t.org and Klatt told me about this thread today while I was on my way to work and just now got a chance to sit down and read this. I have been so busy with my getting my car back together and working a crapload at my job, I dont have a lot of free time to browse the different forums, I barely have time to deal with my own!


Basically we were in the same spot as Enthalpy where we didnt want our name drug through the mud with BD's downfall...thats the short and sweet version. Plus the fact that PJ had bad grammar always bothered me.


Jeff....you have mail, please get back to me ASAP at the number listed.


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