TheRealSy90

Oh yeah stock manifold sr's are equally as bad. The funny thing is Nissan purposely designed the sr20 to sound the way it does.

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Corbic

The one that a 5.7 LS is not that desirable.

For my hick towns CL, there is a block for $600, a engine and 4l60 for $2k, an engine and T-56 for $3,600 and a rebuilt carb engine for $2800.

Building a 600whp LS will likely cost the same as a 600whp SR. At the SR will need to be built, LS won't.

L92s are like $3k. 6.2l, aluminum and 400hp.

Matej

Never understood people who care about engine sound. I want my exhaust as quiet as possible. The only noise I do not mind is turbo spool or supercharger whine.

Corbic

So you do care about engine sound...

Matej

Eliminating engine sound, yes.
While the turbo or supercharger may be considered a part of the engine, they will sound the same no matter what engine they are mounted to.
How would anyone else know you have a boosted car if they could not hear it over the exhaust noise?

civilized_drifter

Corbic tell us more about the ford 2 valve and the superiorty over the chevy lsx

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TheRealSy90

Pretty sure a t25 on 12psi doesn't sound the same as a gt35 or larger on say, 20psi. Larger is definitely louder. Plus wastegate sizes come into play etc.


Idk any "car guy" that doesn't care about how their engine sounds lol, you're a unique one.

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Corbic

Wtf are you talking about?

Matej

Obviously different turbos at different boost levels will sound different. Both are still turbo sounds.

I am just waiting for practical and affordable electric motor swaps.

silviaks2nr

Engine sound is the most important part of a car IMO I feel very sad for you buddy.

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Matej

At the expense of everyone else hating you and the police tailing you. Especially in today's world where cars are shifting more and more in the direction of quiet and efficient, and people look at you as the enemy of the environment.
Attitudes toward cars have changed completely in the past couple of decades. People used to see a loud flashy car and think, "how cool," now it is, "what a tool." And I agree with them.

Plus quiet car equals more street drifting time before your neighbor calls the police on you for destroying the cul-de-sac.

silviaks2nr

I subscribe to the school of thought that if your car is a little loud but super clean and well put together then cops won't hassle you. Has worked for me for the longest time

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VROOOM

I usually just paint my exhaust black. my Evo X had no cat, was loud as hell and the exhaust was painted black. never got hassled by the cops. i also took the wing off which probably helped too

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ixfxi

thats because matej listens to israeli techno music, he need not listen to the sounds of an engine... :P

"the best in europe, bro" hehe

all i can say is, there are some cars you want quiet... like a camry or an accord. and then there are cars. real cars. and real cars sound real nice.

ive actually followed some top dollar exotics through the canyons, and i was just enamored by the sound of the engine and all the mechanical sounds.

i used to have really nice audio systems in my car. that all came to an end after doing turbo. never cared to have an audio system ever again.

bataangpinoy

??? where I am, anything LS is heinously overpriced

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Corbic

Join us in the Midwest.

I got stopped by a cop so he could ask me what exhaust I was running on my mustang back in the day.

Cops are car guys too and typically big time bros. Ever wonder how those coal rollers exist? Cops just fuck with whinny douche kids.

Corbic

Stop living in Caves?

$600 for a fucking block is expensive. God damn Teksid is like $200.

They are 20 year old engines at this point. I can build a 800hp capable 4.6 for $3k (plus the cost of the 800hp turbo system). That would be a completely forged fresh engine on a fucking Ferrari block that will be in the 445lb range.

kashira kureijii

evo's just don't look the same without the wing tho........

also, I might agree with the whole " hear only turbo, forget exhaust sound" logic for sr's. My exhaust is too damn loud/drony/resonates, and I live in a neighborhood of nice elderly people, so I always feel like shit for cold starting it in the morning and it being loud AF. Turbo sound on the sr all day though.

Speaking of which, how shitty would stock exhaust look on an aero rear bumper? I kinda feel like I should just go back to stock with a test pipe(so less backpressure), so my car won't be all drony and shit

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dbeiler

I love reading all the comments by the GM v8 dream-boys. Junkyard engines will produce over 9000hp with only bolt-on parts. Notice the lack of anyone with actual experience chiming in? That may be largely due to the fact that anyone who has actually built and ran a reliable 600hp LS knows damn well how ungodly, unbelievably, expensive it is.

Has anyone bothered to calculate how costly it is to do basic cam, heads, and exhaust upgrades? It isn't chump change. $5K can get you some decent parts.

Many people switch to a built LS for displacement/reliable power reasons.

Many people switch to a stock LS because they don't possess the mental capacity to modify and build a smaller displacement engine.

kashira kureijii

but bro, sloppy mechaniks make over 9000 hp on stock internalz LS1's all the time. theyr also 500 ibs lighter than an sr because they don't hav a turbo and intercooler

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Corbic

Please quote that claim.

Ironic considering what comes next.


It's very affordable all things considered. What would an after market head, cams, and forged stroker kit cost on a SR or RB? I bet an LS is half despite have 2x everything.

Also nobody is dropping in a Junkyard motor for a NA build. Slap a massive eBay turbo and go. The cost of turboing an LS is the same as upgrading your shitting stock SR/RB- injectors, turbo, manifold, FMIC, exhaust and tune.

The difference is with a LS you have 5-6 liters that make 300-400hp NA and internals that will hold 600-800hp unlike an SR that makes 140hp NA and will pop at 500hp.

Replacements are another thing. Pop a 5.3? Swap it out with another for $400.







Says the man that has an RB25 instead of a CA18.... Even import fanbois know theirs no replacement for displacement.

K24 > K20 > B18 > B16 > D15

Rb26 > RB25 > RB20

2JZ > 1JZ

SR20 > CA18

4 Rotor > 3 Rotor > 2 Rotor


1300cc > 1000cc > 600cc > 250cc

EJ25 > EJ20

F22C > F20C

Corbic

Stock 5.3.
2 years at 860whp get sprayed, finally lets go. Poor bastards weekend is ruined and he's now out $400.

Cheesy Doriftos

is this a teddy danh thread from 2011?

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mastadon

Everyone says how cheap an ls is, but the motor itself is more than a whole sr swap, then the transmission is that much all over again. Done? Nope, now you need the swap kit that costs an arm and a leg. Its difficult to do even an iron block ls for less than $6k. Thats not cheap power in my world.

DustinSixOh9

I mean, just on ebay you can find a stock 5.3 for as low as $400, mount kit with Z32 trans adapter w/ flywheel and driveshaft for $2400, z32 trans $300-400(?), appropriate clutch $350ish. Sure you need to wire it up and get all of the f-body accessories and what not, but I think it's pretty damn cost effective.

Kingtal0n

The way I would do this is, removable tube front on an S10/240sx, couple of spare 5.3s, and a turbocharger or two, some methanol/water, 4L60e or 700R4

fatduece

I think this whole v8 swap ties in perfectly with all the hoonigay bros. You guys are to lazy to build a sr/rb/jz So you want the easy way out and swap some homo v8. Lame. Just take your hick ass out of here. Get your self a domestic car and have fun with your v8, but dont come in here and spread your anal thoughts.

Kingtal0n

A real performance enthusiast uses whatever is available to him, and would not be closed minded to a higher performance application just because it is different or unfamiliar.

kashira kureijii

a real nissan enthusiast would use nissan..........just sayin

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fatduece

^ Exactly.