derass

I just caught a quick clip from this last round and saw what looked like a group of new recruits being sworn into the Air Force during the opening ceremonies. Previously at Long Beach, it was a precision drill demonstration. Is it just me, or has the Air Force been putting more effort into gaining new recruits through FD?

Beas

recruiting is the only reason they would be involved with FD. smart if u ask me. whats weird is that means our tax dollars are going to FD. I wish all my tax dollars went to FD rather than some bums welfare.


Anyway, I'm happy to see different drivers on the podium this year. denofa, bluss etc.

tlieberman240

They constantly switch from one track to a different one every couple years in Florida. Every layout being more garbage than the last.

They should just leave that shithole and go back to Vegas.

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zerodameaon

Vegas and Sonoma, but then it would go back to people bitching about to many events on the west coast. Though right now they are east coast heavy even if you don't include Fort Worth Texas.

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tlieberman240

Sonoma was boring. Long hand brake through a late apex right hand corner, long transition back to the left. Done. Lame.

Vegas was rad. That track required some balls, especially when the drivers were flicking the car on entry against a wall at triple digit speeds.

ATL is ok. NJ is one of the best rounds in the series, I think. Low speed, tight and technical, tandem runs are typically really good there.

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Chronumn

No! Haha I like seeing the cars come down here. Homestead is cool.

dorkidori_s13

i miss having a booth at the Vegas FD and getting to meet some of you guys in person

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zerodameaon

The track FD used was lame, there is a lot more track there. Hell if you use the drag strip you can turn what FD had into very tight and technical if you go back over a spot used that the beginning. Regardless it was still better then anything Florida has had.

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kingkilburn

Almost every track FD uses is boring banked sweeper bs. A steady hand and high power wind the day.
I want to see the American drivers hit that recent FD Japan Ebisu course. Most wouldn't even qualify.

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Mister.E

This is pretty damn funny

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MrMigs

fukking lol good one hahaha

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ehhhregartless

Drawn from this. I didn't have a strong opinion about FD and for the most part liked it but this is ridiculous

https://youtu.be/I35HlW5S0-E

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Mister.E

He flicked it too hard for a transition like that. The extreme angle almost made him park it. Props to McQuarrie for actually avoiding that.

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scottie

If/When a Drift Series puts forth rules which heavily favor the chase car, the rule(s) need to be abandoned immediately. No other series in the brief history of this motorsport has ever allowed a chase car to drive thru the lead car and advance.

Think about it. Forsberg (and crew) had a Win-Win scenario. The 1st Clipping point coming off the bank was designated an "accel" area followed immediately by a "decel" area to allow transition for the right hand sweeper. Forrest had been transitioning early the entire event, including qualifying. Mcquarrie was able to avoid contact the first run and every subsequent run after (had 2 one more times) Mcquarrie was able to adjust his line and stay with Forrest. This is called being a professional.
Now Forberg squares off with Forrest and you know their spotter has made note of the angle/transition and the fact Forrest was running this section slower than most. Forsberg loses Forrest in the smoke, decides 'hey this is an accel section so why not stomp the gas pedal'. He hits Forrest due to difference in speed and somehow advances. This put Forsberg in a Win-Win. Outcome 1 - He is on Forrest's door coming out of Clipping 1 and likely advances. Outcome 2 - He hits Forrest, team cries fowl for lack of speed, advances. How the shit do you allow this to happen as a 'legit' organization?

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brndck

this is why you MUST understand, FormulaD is WWF, with skid cars.
if you try to take it seriously as a motorsport, you're just gonna be irritated.

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timandytimandy

I wouldn't say it was the flick, more the surface transition.

I feel like a lot of people bitching don't have experience driving a course with such an aggressive transition like that. At our local events we have two massive cracks mid sweepers that sends newer people spinning all day if you don't quickly lift at the right time because of the violent weight shift and traction change.

Its well known Forrest had tire / traction issues so his choices were lift and let Chris on his door or stay on throttle and try not to spin.

To me it looked like he maxed his angle out and the car started to spin / angle locked so he let off throttle to scrub angle (and speed), aka parked it.


Its a catch 22, if you favor the lead car its basically a drag race. Or if the lead car is significantly slower you could technically win a round in sr swapped s13 where it would be extremely difficult to chase properly in a current fd spec car.

Cortius017

The ONE last driver who had any sort of style or any of my personal respect has now left. He was the only reason I bothered to watch. I still have respect for him, but now I lost a lot of care for fd. Fuck it. Its fucked now

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I prefer making an analogy with MonsterJam. The cars are so ridiculous now too. I like street cars

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Mister.E

I have no respect for the way him/his team just straight up rage quit the very moment that they thought they had been screwed. He is still a great driver though, you can't argue with that.

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brndck

if you paid attention to how many times they'd been shafted previously, it makes a bit more sense. I think this was just the straw that broke the camels back.

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Mister.E

I don't really follow FD at all, for obvious reason. It was hard to avoid this incident though. Which underdog hasn't been screwed in FD? It was a weak way to go out though. If your shit broke, then tell people instead of letting them dog you out like that. They went silent and I still haven't seen an official statement from Forrest regarding his thoughts on what happened.

FD should change their slogan to "Forsberg gets the win."

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Mister.E

I don't like Gittin, but he basically said what I wanted to say.

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Vaughn should know a lot about suspension. About $5000 worth of suspension knowledge.

Matej

In many other motorsports, using the moment your suspension breaks (if the claim is true) to your advantage by befuddling and sabotaging your opponent would be a dastardly yet really exciting and impressive maneuver. The kind of stuff that makes you love or hate a driver. The way you hate the really good team that always beats your hometown in sportsball. Formula D needs this.

But instead, in drifting it turned into high school princess drama. Feelings were hurt. Judges awarded a participation trophy to Forsberg. Wang threw a hissy fit. Drivers lost respect for each other. Gittin lost his appetite. Boo-hoo. Apparently growing beards and driving 1000hp cars has nothing to do with being manly after all.

Wang should have been awarded the win if he finished drifting the track, whether he made Forsberg hit him intentionally or not. That is good entertainment. If neither of them finished the run, then neither should have been awarded anything. To me, there is no scenario in which Forsberg should be the winner, but I assume Formula D rules are pretty stupid and are all about playing nice and fluffy and stuff.

OBEEWON

Holy crap this is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
Too good.

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I love Final Bout... but I think it is mostly because of the cool name and good video editing.

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xilovelsdx

Yep in literally every other similar situation the lead was awarded the win when the chase runs into the lead.

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PandahZ650

Where Forrest slowed up and eventually got hit by Forsberg was in an acceleration zone. Yes Forsberg had a shallow line off the bank and less than ideal angle off the bank, but with the speed of the cars in Formula D no matter what if you expect someone to be hard on throttle at a certain point and they're not, chances are you're going to slam into them. Also didn't help that the chase is pretty much always blinded transitioning off the bank to inner clip 1 at NJ. With any competitive motorsport, you drive to what the judges are asking. The judges wanted drives to accelerate off the bank and through inner clip 1, Forest did the opposite of that and threw a bunch of angle and slowed up. If Forest threw that angle and kept speed this would've been a different story, if Forest threw big angle to scrub speed coming into outer zone 2 this would've been a different story. Forest slowed up in an acceleration zone, plain and simple.