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*Jeff240sx* · 11-09-2001, 01:22 AM

Does anyone know the skidpad stats of the s14?  My friend and I are debating, so a quick answer would be appreciated.
-Jeff

11-09-2001, 03:14 AM

.89 G's correct me if i'm wrong

96SEChick · 11-09-2001, 05:41 AM

benns, I believe you're right.  When Car and Driver tested the S14 when it was first released, they said it was .89, which I think is pretty awesome for our cars.

*nismo270r* · 11-09-2001, 08:41 AM

Yup...right on the money...0.89g  (taken from the '96 sales brochure)

HippoSleek · 11-09-2001, 09:14 AM

Some where I saw someone who retested with R compound tires using a G-Tech(?) and pulled over 1g.  Otherwise, all stock - that is really impressive for a low price sports car.

whateverjames · 11-09-2001, 09:59 AM

make sure you two are debating on the same skidpad ratings, me and my friend used to debate before we realized there's a 200ft and 300ft skidpad, hehe. anyways i've heard .83 for 200ft and .87 for 300ft.

Gold240se · 11-09-2001, 10:02 AM

.89 is what I've heard and read as well.  Acording to Road and track, that's higher then a McLaren F1, BMW 330 CI, and .01 lower then a Ruf RGT, not bad for an enrty level sports car.

11-09-2001, 11:02 AM

That would be Don Nimi. '91 Hatch SE SuperHicas with R compound (no other suspension mods) got 1.1g continous and 1.2g peak back in '91.

Another 240sx.org member, got 1.2g continous with a sorted AutoX suspension and R compound.

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Some where I saw someone who retested with R compound tires using a G-Tech(?) and pulled over 1g. Otherwise, all stock - that is really impressive for a low price sports car.
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konkman · 11-09-2001, 11:12 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from 91 D21 Beater on 11<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>2 am on Nov. 9, 2001
That would be Don Nimi. '91 Hatch SE SuperHicas with R compound (no other suspension mods) got 1.1g continous and 1.2g peak back in '91.

Another 240sx.org member, got 1.2g continous with a sorted AutoX suspension and R compound.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from HippoSleek on 9:14 am on Nov. 9, 2001
Some where I saw someone who retested with R compound tires using a G-Tech(?) and pulled over 1g. Otherwise, all stock - that is really impressive for a low price sports car.
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Actually without the hand of god, I don't see that happening.  I've seen Don's car, pretty sure he was running eibach prokit and GAB adjustable shocks/struts, and whiteline heavy duty sway bars.

He's advertising for his company.  No 10 yearold stock 240 with awesome rubber could pull over up to and over 1.0g's on a skid pad.  

11-09-2001, 12:58 PM

You totally missed the part about back in '91.

Don was able to win the Canadian National C class (?) AutoX championship in '91.

Now with his Zeal race setup, who knows. Don's one #### of a driver. His 510 race car is way cool... Too bad it's in pieces.

HippoSleek · 11-09-2001, 04:19 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from 91 D21 Beater on 9<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>2 am on Nov. 9, 2001
That would be Don Nimi. '91 Hatch SE SuperHicas with R compound (no other suspension mods) got 1.1g continous and 1.2g peak back in '91.

Another 240sx.org member, got 1.2g continous with a sorted AutoX suspension and R compound.
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Yup - I thought so... but G-Tech kept rattleing in my head (I now remember why - a buddy w/ a 2nd gen. CRX used it to pull over 1).

BTW:  Welcome... don't know how you'll like it, as most of us are pretty green over here, but rest assured you're insight will be appreciated. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

my240likenoother · 11-09-2001, 08:56 PM

anyone know what the s13 does

*transient* · 11-09-2001, 09:16 PM

I'd like to know as well. I know I pulled a heck of a turn trying to drift the other day. Any other car I've driven would have lost it, but mine held.

11-09-2001, 11:16 PM

i think the s13 pulled near 2 machs....

11-09-2001, 11:17 PM

hehe i was j.k i would aslo wanna know too...

11-09-2001, 11:23 PM

if the s14 is .89 stock  where might i be with my wider tires and strut bar? i have 225'z in the front 245'z in the rear.....

vancouvers14 · 11-10-2001, 09:41 PM

width doesn't help handling.  smaller sidewall will help a little

11-10-2001, 09:56 PM

i disagree.......... i changed my tires and BAM the handling characteristics went up... i have been able to stay stable through turns at a higher rate of speed, i'd beg to differ with ur thoughts.

my240likenoother · 11-10-2001, 10:04 PM

agree with nismos14 more tier on the road lest likely to brake from the road

11-10-2001, 10:22 PM

the rims i had were 16 x 7 and now i got 16 x 7.5 in the fronts, and 16 x 8.5's in the rear and im speakin through experience not theory.

(Edited by nismos14 at 10:41 pm on Nov. 10, 2001)

KoukiS14 · 11-12-2001, 10:33 PM

.87.... .89... #### those numbers SUCK.
I MISS MY HICAS! How many times do I have to say it =)  
I really like my S14 though, but I miss the .95 G capability... I'm sure it did less than that, but I know it was much much much better than my S14.   Try taking the same exit ramp at 110 mph in my S14.. ugh ..
.87 is Camaro territory, that's not good.   But know what?  It doesn't matter...  We're all on this forum because we're interested in trying to keep our cars as far from STOCK as possible =)  
no matter what 240sx u have, it's an excellent platform for handling...  

-Rob

*nismo270r* · 11-12-2001, 11:46 PM

Haha...yeah...you and your #### HICAS...haha...I wonder what kinda G's I'm pullin' with my setup.  Can anyone guesstimate?  GAB Super HP's, H&R's, ST Sways, A'pexi Al FSTB, Nismo RSTB.  I'm sure with some good tires, it'd prolly be near or maybe even a little over 1...You know how tight it feels Rorert...HAHA

11-13-2001, 02:31 AM

S13 pulled .82 G's stock!...

HippoSleek · 11-13-2001, 11:22 AM

You know, maybe some people should be removed from the s14 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>... I bet you could get two of your beloved s13's for the value of you s14! ... oh the slings and arrows... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

In any event, I agree that Nissan should have made the s14 a better performer... after all, in a skid pad comparison, it lost to the Boxster, NSX, 911 Carrera 4, and the Viper! Besides, everyone knows that a Z06 pulls 1.0g! :cool:

http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/auto/handling.html

I'll take .89- and rub it in the noses of owners of z3's, A4's, Celica GT-S's and the rest. I *red heart* my s14!

(Edited by HippoSleek at 9:31 am on Nov. 13, 2001)

Gold240se · 11-13-2001, 12:26 PM

Check my post up near the top of the page.  7th from the top.

KoukiS14 · 11-14-2001, 05:14 PM

Base S13 pulled .82 stock?  Doesn't surprise me.. I was comparing apples to oranges, as usual... the sloppy handling of my S14 compared to that of my HICAS S13...  No comparison.  

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11-09-2001, 01:22 AM	#1
Jeff240sx I hate you too... Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 38 Posts: 5,828 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Jeff240sx Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Does anyone know the skidpad stats of the s14?  My friend and I are debating, so a quick answer would be appreciated. -Jeff

11-09-2001, 03:14 AM	#2
Guest Posts: n/a	.89 G's correct me if i'm wrong

11-09-2001, 05:41 AM	#3
96SEChick Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Age: 44 Posts: 1,814 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	benns, I believe you're right.  When Car and Driver tested the S14 when it was first released, they said it was .89, which I think is pretty awesome for our cars.

11-09-2001, 08:41 AM	#4
nismo270r Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lafayette, IN Age: 41 Posts: 715 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yup...right on the money...0.89g  (taken from the '96 sales brochure)

11-09-2001, 09:14 AM	#5
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Some where I saw someone who retested with R compound tires using a G-Tech(?) and pulled over 1g.  Otherwise, all stock - that is really impressive for a low price sports car.

11-09-2001, 09:59 AM	#6
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 41 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	make sure you two are debating on the same skidpad ratings, me and my friend used to debate before we realized there's a 200ft and 300ft skidpad, hehe. anyways i've heard .83 for 200ft and .87 for 300ft.

11-09-2001, 10:02 AM	#7
Gold240se Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 140 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	.89 is what I've heard and read as well.  Acording to Road and track, that's higher then a McLaren F1, BMW 330 CI, and .01 lower then a Ruf RGT, not bad for an enrty level sports car.

11-09-2001, 11:02 AM	#8
Guest Posts: n/a	That would be Don Nimi. '91 Hatch SE SuperHicas with R compound (no other suspension mods) got 1.1g continous and 1.2g peak back in '91. Another 240sx.org member, got 1.2g continous with a sorted AutoX suspension and R compound. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from HippoSleek on 9:14 am on Nov. 9, 2001 Some where I saw someone who retested with R compound tires using a G-Tech(?) and pulled over 1g. Otherwise, all stock - that is really impressive for a low price sports car. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

11-09-2001, 11:12 AM	#9
konkman Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 534 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from 91 D21 Beater on 11<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>2 am on Nov. 9, 2001 That would be Don Nimi. '91 Hatch SE SuperHicas with R compound (no other suspension mods) got 1.1g continous and 1.2g peak back in '91. Another 240sx.org member, got 1.2g continous with a sorted AutoX suspension and R compound. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from HippoSleek on 9:14 am on Nov. 9, 2001 Some where I saw someone who retested with R compound tires using a G-Tech(?) and pulled over 1g. Otherwise, all stock - that is really impressive for a low price sports car. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Actually without the hand of god, I don't see that happening.  I've seen Don's car, pretty sure he was running eibach prokit and GAB adjustable shocks/struts, and whiteline heavy duty sway bars. He's advertising for his company.  No 10 yearold stock 240 with awesome rubber could pull over up to and over 1.0g's on a skid pad.

11-09-2001, 12:58 PM	#10
Guest Posts: n/a	You totally missed the part about back in '91. Don was able to win the Canadian National C class (?) AutoX championship in '91. Now with his Zeal race setup, who knows. Don's one #### of a driver. His 510 race car is way cool... Too bad it's in pieces.

11-09-2001, 04:19 PM	#11
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from 91 D21 Beater on 9<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>2 am on Nov. 9, 2001 That would be Don Nimi. '91 Hatch SE SuperHicas with R compound (no other suspension mods) got 1.1g continous and 1.2g peak back in '91. Another 240sx.org member, got 1.2g continous with a sorted AutoX suspension and R compound. </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Yup - I thought so... but G-Tech kept rattleing in my head (I now remember why - a buddy w/ a 2nd gen. CRX used it to pull over 1). BTW:  Welcome... don't know how you'll like it, as most of us are pretty green over here, but rest assured you're insight will be appreciated. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

11-09-2001, 08:56 PM	#12
my240likenoother Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	anyone know what the s13 does

11-09-2001, 09:16 PM	#13
transient Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 37 Posts: 2,947 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'd like to know as well. I know I pulled a heck of a turn trying to drift the other day. Any other car I've driven would have lost it, but mine held.

11-09-2001, 11:16 PM	#14
Guest Posts: n/a	i think the s13 pulled near 2 machs....

11-09-2001, 11:17 PM	#15
Guest Posts: n/a	hehe i was j.k i would aslo wanna know too...

11-09-2001, 11:23 PM	#16
Guest Posts: n/a	if the s14 is .89 stock  where might i be with my wider tires and strut bar? i have 225'z in the front 245'z in the rear.....

11-10-2001, 09:41 PM	#17
vancouvers14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 868 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	width doesn't help handling.  smaller sidewall will help a little

11-10-2001, 09:56 PM	#18
Guest Posts: n/a	i disagree.......... i changed my tires and BAM the handling characteristics went up... i have been able to stay stable through turns at a higher rate of speed, i'd beg to differ with ur thoughts.

11-10-2001, 10:04 PM	#19
my240likenoother Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,261 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	agree with nismos14 more tier on the road lest likely to brake from the road

11-10-2001, 10:22 PM	#20
Guest Posts: n/a	the rims i had were 16 x 7 and now i got 16 x 7.5 in the fronts, and 16 x 8.5's in the rear and im speakin through experience not theory. (Edited by nismos14 at 10:41 pm on Nov. 10, 2001)

11-12-2001, 10:33 PM	#21
KoukiS14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Indiana Age: 43 Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	.87.... .89... #### those numbers SUCK. I MISS MY HICAS! How many times do I have to say it =)   I really like my S14 though, but I miss the .95 G capability... I'm sure it did less than that, but I know it was much much much better than my S14.   Try taking the same exit ramp at 110 mph in my S14.. ugh .. .87 is Camaro territory, that's not good.   But know what?  It doesn't matter...  We're all on this forum because we're interested in trying to keep our cars as far from STOCK as possible =)   no matter what 240sx u have, it's an excellent platform for handling...   -Rob

11-12-2001, 11:46 PM	#22
nismo270r Premium Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Lafayette, IN Age: 41 Posts: 715 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Haha...yeah...you and your #### HICAS...haha...I wonder what kinda G's I'm pullin' with my setup.  Can anyone guesstimate?  GAB Super HP's, H&R's, ST Sways, A'pexi Al FSTB, Nismo RSTB.  I'm sure with some good tires, it'd prolly be near or maybe even a little over 1...You know how tight it feels Rorert...HAHA

11-13-2001, 02:31 AM	#23
Guest Posts: n/a	S13 pulled .82 G's stock!...

11-13-2001, 11:22 AM	#24
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You know, maybe some people should be removed from the s14 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>... I bet you could get two of your beloved s13's for the value of you s14! ... oh the slings and arrows... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'> In any event, I agree that Nissan should have made the s14 a better performer... after all, in a skid pad comparison, it lost to the Boxster, NSX, 911 Carrera 4, and the Viper! Besides, everyone knows that a Z06 pulls 1.0g! :cool: http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/auto/handling.html I'll take .89- and rub it in the noses of owners of z3's, A4's, Celica GT-S's and the rest. I red heart my s14! (Edited by HippoSleek at 9:31 am on Nov. 13, 2001)

11-13-2001, 12:26 PM	#25
Gold240se Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 140 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Check my post up near the top of the page.  7th from the top.

11-14-2001, 05:14 PM	#26
KoukiS14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Indiana Age: 43 Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Base S13 pulled .82 stock?  Doesn't surprise me.. I was comparing apples to oranges, as usual... the sloppy handling of my S14 compared to that of my HICAS S13...  No comparison.