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chmercer · 09-25-2005, 05:40 PM

theres a cpl pics for whoever wanted them. the front is screwed up, disregard that for now. switched from rivets to screws on the overfenders, rivets suck ass to take off.

guy who asked for wheel specs - 18x12 -20 work equip m1, 2.5 estimated camber

Ian · 09-25-2005, 06:08 PM

cool paint, how did you do it?

**ThatGuy** · 09-25-2005, 06:09 PM

^Search his posts. It isn't paint.

Jcb890 · 09-25-2005, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainevent212

cool paint, how did you do it?

http://www.claires.com/product.asp?n...d=1978&scid=39

TougeRacing · 09-25-2005, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chmercer

uhh, im going to pimp around town on them, and let them collect dust in my pit area when i go to drift events, because i cant spin them, because my whole car is rice?

but at least i dont try to make retarded stale 5 year old jokes because i suck at fitment and dont understand camber gain and sidewall stretch.

thats the lowest i can go without cutting more out of the fender well. it dosent rub.

^^thats haaaawwwwt fitment.

KA24DESOneThree · 09-25-2005, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilredstiffy

You guys are majorly retarded for consistently getting upset about people with a car 1 inch lower than 'ideal', a wheel one inch wider than 'ideal' for the tire, and above all arguing about nonsense in a thread challenging who sacrificies the most daily driveability for the sake of looking badass.

Also -3 camber is fucking perfect for front camber. not too much at all...which shows ka24de123 you are knocking something you've never even tried...wtg socal wussbag.

-3 is not perfect, and I don't see any reason why my opinions on chassis setup make me a wussbag. Again with the assumptions... do you know me? No, so shut up and sit down. We're both expressing opinions because unless you have the pyrometer readings to prove that -3 is any better what you say is just that: an opinion.

How the hell would you know whether or not I've run -3 degrees camber? I've run -2.8 before but the car was less-well-prepped. I'm fairly sure I could get away with -2.5 or slightly less now but I think -3 is pretty excessive and concedes too much in braking. What was -3 degrees static increases further under compression and, depending on caster, steering angle.

I previously made concessions to the arguments of the lowness crowd. I understand the reasons why you guys do it.

I feel like I'm cluttering up this thread by responding to all these personal attacks. (Yes, I realize I attacked chmercer, by the way) You want to continue to harass me? Take it up in PM, because I'm through.

*revat619* · 09-25-2005, 06:53 PM

This whole argument is retarded considering suspension settings are all subjective. It all depends on the DRIVER. For instance, i hope you all realize that all the guys that are in D1, F1 Racing, Auto-x, etc... all run different settings. Some like more camber than others, some like more toe than others and so on and so forth. No 1 setup is necessarily better than the other. Its DRIVER PREFERENCE. Now everybody STFU and get back on topic. This crap is hella gay. Geeez....

lilredstiffy · 09-25-2005, 06:58 PM

Not trying to make personal attacks, but you said yourself

"The tire may roll and the strut may deflect, and that's why we run a negative camber, but not anywhere near -3 degrees on a properly set up car. "

and I just found that a baseless statement.
-2.5 is somewhere near -3.

anyway on topic this is my car when im on stock wheels...its pretty low then haha
this was after a coworker nailed my quarter panel when he was leaving work to go to lunch one day last year...hitting my parked car

got the big dent fixed since then

NI_YON_Zenki · 09-25-2005, 07:29 PM

This Kat - chmercer . Is the only one fuckin' with my offset right now. I can't believe this shit. Why can't I show off my car when Its in good condition, oh, I choose not too. Daily Drifter,lol thats funny.I thought this thread was how low can you go, not how wide. half you kats probably don't know why you honestly have wide wheels & tires on your cars, do you?.. ..do you?. .. .Do You? I know, for reals, it's the presence of the Busted Lips, those sexy looking chrome piercing lips, so lovely. Then there are those who actually Go thru the torment of trying to hang a curve @ 80 MPH W/O any chance of curb rash. I feel for all of you. i hate that shit, I have plenty of repair recipts for that, (thanks Sander & TWS)

He's running a 18x12 -20 ( I hope thats not all 4), I'm running a -20x10 Rear, is there any real reason you needed 2 extra inches of wheel. I would love to see that Zenki up against that vette' behind it. .. .I need the well paying job. .. . then I'll have some shit for ya'll worth looking @. lol. nah, I'm talking shit, big Ups to the Zenki.

chmercer · 09-25-2005, 07:59 PM

err.. huh?

chmercer · 09-25-2005, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainevent212

cool paint, how did you do it?

the paint is vinyl, it looks good in pictures and from a distance, but up close, its got wrinkles and stuff. its cool for the price (~100$). uhh no, its not lip gloss.

KA24DESOneThree - hmm you seem to think everyones car is set up for grip or somthing. straight line braking = i dont care, because i drift. going into corner 80mph > clutch kick > counter > etc. only time i use brakes is when the line is too wide. -3 camber is fine in front for drifting. when you are snapping a car around you get a lot more weight transfer and positive camber gain. corollas run like 4 or more up front a lot of the times, care to judge their setups as well with your awesome roadrace prowess?

NI_YON_Zenki - hrm your post is kindof confusing to read. i mainly got the wheels cause i got a good price, they look awesome, and theyre big enough to allow for pretty much whatever compound i could think of. ive never gotten any curb rash during mountain runs, maybe you have too low of a load rating/arent running enough pressure? yes that is only the rear fitment. the front is 18x10 -7 so not as wide. corvette is my dads, got it a couple weeks ago, its one of the 405hp z06s, has exhaust intake headers high flow cats, and x pipe i think. its so much faster than my car, its sad. but it dosent have ANY steering angle. lol.

Jcb890 · 09-25-2005, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NI_YON_Zenki

This Kat - chmercer . Is the only one fuckin' with my offset right now. I can't believe this shit. Why can't I show off my car when Its in good condition, oh, I choose not too. Daily Drifter,lol thats funny.I thought this thread was how low can you go, not how wide. half you kats probably don't know why you honestly have wide wheels & tires on your cars, do you?.. ..do you?. .. .Do You? I know, for reals, it's the presence of the Busted Lips, those sexy looking chrome piercing lips, so lovely. Then there are those who actually Go thru the torment of trying to hang a curve @ 80 MPH W/O any chance of curb rash. I feel for all of you. i hate that shit, I have plenty of repair recipts for that, (thanks Sander & TWS)

He's running a 18x12 -20 ( I hope thats not all 4), I'm running a -20x10 Rear, is there any real reason you needed 2 extra inches of wheel. I would love to see that Zenki up against that vette' behind it. .. .I need the well paying job. .. . then I'll have some shit for ya'll worth looking @. lol. nah, I'm talking shit, big Ups to the Zenki.

in english please?

Dousan_PG · 09-25-2005, 08:27 PM

no shit
jibberish. wtf niyonzenki?!

in the end
everyone sets their car up differently for what the do, dont see whats the point of harrassing someone because of their setup

RBS14 · 09-25-2005, 09:31 PM

As for the comment of running ridiculous amounts of camber that even a grip car would not be able to take advantage of. When you are drifting, at or near full lock, the leading wheel, with the majority of the weight on it, even with like -3 camber will still have positive camber. that is why running like -4 camber in the front can even be beneficial on a drift car. That's why I run so much camber. And for the rear, since I don't have much power, the slightly smaller contact patch is easier to keep spinning.

Anywho, it just comes down to preference.

Ian · 09-25-2005, 09:37 PM

Yo chmercer, could you PM me or somethin to point me in the direction of where i can get somethin like that (i promise i wont copy your style lol)

i'm just interested in decent looking paint options...I'm really not wanting to but i'm probably gonna just have to shell out for a paint job...which i honestly cannot afford to do

chmercer · 09-25-2005, 09:55 PM

you can get the stuff from www.signcatalog.com they have all different types and colors and everything. on the side go to "vinyl for signmaking" and the cool stuff is at the bottom, the metal flake one is what i used. it sucks, but its cooler than primer and if you mess it up you can just stick another piece on. the 24x50 yd rolls that are like 89$ + shipping, that is plenty to cover a whole car with.

Ian · 09-25-2005, 10:14 PM

they're 24"x30 that you used...

*revat619* · 09-25-2005, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NI_YON_Zenki

This Kat - chmercer . Is the only one fuckin' with my offset right now. I can't believe this shit. Why can't I show off my car when Its in good condition, oh, I choose not too. Daily Drifter,lol thats funny.I thought this thread was how low can you go, not how wide. half you kats probably don't know why you honestly have wide wheels & tires on your cars, do you?.. ..do you?. .. .Do You? I know, for reals, it's the presence of the Busted Lips, those sexy looking chrome piercing lips, so lovely. Then there are those who actually Go thru the torment of trying to hang a curve @ 80 MPH W/O any chance of curb rash. I feel for all of you. i hate that shit, I have plenty of repair recipts for that, (thanks Sander & TWS)

He's running a 18x12 -20 ( I hope thats not all 4), I'm running a -20x10 Rear, is there any real reason you needed 2 extra inches of wheel. I would love to see that Zenki up against that vette' behind it. .. .I need the well paying job. .. . then I'll have some shit for ya'll worth looking @. lol. nah, I'm talking shit, big Ups to the Zenki.

Seriously Skip, WTF!! Speak english! LOL

None of us EVER understand you online!

sideview_180sx · 09-25-2005, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by revat619

Seriously Skip, WTF!! Speak english! LOL

None of us EVER understand you online!

Skip.......lay off the weed

chmercer · 09-25-2005, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainevent212

they're 24"x30 that you used...

err yea thats right. my bad

edit - and i have a wider rear track than the corvette by 1".

Ian · 09-25-2005, 11:40 PM

ah...i love your car haha

i'm goin w/ the 2" pulled fenders...17x9 -8 or so...not as hardcore as you but yeah...it's still cool to me! haha

I'll be back in this thread w/ the *2nd* lowest car haha...i'll be pulling up close on RBS14 most definately

Wei240 · 09-25-2005, 11:51 PM

i think the mods should delete all irrelavant posts and just keep the pics,
fuckin a, i'd rather this be a pic thread and not a discussion thread...

not low enough, need another 1" lower

P_s14 · 09-25-2005, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilredstiffy

Not trying to make personal attacks, but you said yourself

"The tire may roll and the strut may deflect, and that's why we run a negative camber, but not anywhere near -3 degrees on a properly set up car. "

and I just found that a baseless statement.
-2.5 is somewhere near -3.

anyway on topic this is my car when im on stock wheels...its pretty low then haha
this was after a coworker nailed my quarter panel when he was leaving work to go to lunch one day last year...hitting my parked car

got the big dent fixed since then

hahaha thats a kickass ls plate

beetlejuice · 09-26-2005, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chmercer

ive never gotten any curb rash during mountain runs, maybe you have too low of a load rating/arent running enough pressure?

There are mountains in texas?

chmercer · 09-26-2005, 12:58 AM

uhh, hills? curvey roads. im not saying "touge". no. NO!!

beetlejuice · 09-26-2005, 01:02 AM

Didn't know if this was a new development in the geographic make up of the state of texas. I lived there a few years back (45 min west of Ft Worth). Didn't see any mountains. Very few hills too.

chmercer · 09-26-2005, 01:35 AM

austin baby, hill country

sideview_180sx · 09-26-2005, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mainevent212

ah...i love your car haha

i'm goin w/ the 2" pulled fenders...17x9 -8 or so...not as hardcore as you but yeah...it's still cool to me! haha

I'll be back in this thread w/ the *2nd* lowest car haha...i'll be pulling up close on RBS14 most definately

only person closest is BH, and unless you can be like them daily it, and have hotass bucket sex with a ZEROS, then maybe you can come up short, haha jk. BTW 17x9 -8, dammit you better just pull and roll, dammit its not wide enough to need over fenders, even the LNR made ones (aka jdmrice flares) make those fenders scream for more pull and camber

KoukiMonster · 09-26-2005, 03:09 AM

yea, bh spec.

TRUSE-R · 09-26-2005, 04:07 AM

A pic from 671 (GUAM)

09-25-2005, 06:09 PM	#93
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 41 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	^Search his posts. It isn't paint. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

09-25-2005, 06:53 PM	#97
revat619 Retired General Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,672 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	This whole argument is retarded considering suspension settings are all subjective. It all depends on the DRIVER. For instance, i hope you all realize that all the guys that are in D1, F1 Racing, Auto-x, etc... all run different settings. Some like more camber than others, some like more toe than others and so on and so forth. No 1 setup is necessarily better than the other. Its DRIVER PREFERENCE. Now everybody STFU and get back on topic. This crap is hella gay. Geeez.... __________________ www.Jspec.com www.SpeedAlliance.com www.PoweredByMax.net Instagram: @rjsladerade

09-25-2005, 07:29 PM	#99
NI_YON_Zenki Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Riverside, California Posts: 885 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	This Kat - chmercer . Is the only one fuckin' with my offset right now. I can't believe this shit. Why can't I show off my car when Its in good condition, oh, I choose not too. Daily Drifter,lol thats funny.I thought this thread was how low can you go, not how wide. half you kats probably don't know why you honestly have wide wheels & tires on your cars, do you?.. ..do you?. .. .Do You? I know, for reals, it's the presence of the Busted Lips, those sexy looking chrome piercing lips, so lovely. Then there are those who actually Go thru the torment of trying to hang a curve @ 80 MPH W/O any chance of curb rash. I feel for all of you. i hate that shit, I have plenty of repair recipts for that, (thanks Sander & TWS) He's running a 18x12 -20 ( I hope thats not all 4), I'm running a -20x10 Rear, is there any real reason you needed 2 extra inches of wheel. I would love to see that Zenki up against that vette' behind it. .. .I need the well paying job. .. . then I'll have some shit for ya'll worth looking @. lol. nah, I'm talking shit, big Ups to the Zenki. __________________ "GHOST"

09-25-2005, 08:27 PM	#103
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	no shit jibberish. wtf niyonzenki?! in the end everyone sets their car up differently for what the do, dont see whats the point of harrassing someone because of their setup __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

09-25-2005, 09:31 PM	#104
RBS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz/San Diego Posts: 2,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	As for the comment of running ridiculous amounts of camber that even a grip car would not be able to take advantage of. When you are drifting, at or near full lock, the leading wheel, with the majority of the weight on it, even with like -3 camber will still have positive camber. that is why running like -4 camber in the front can even be beneficial on a drift car. That's why I run so much camber. And for the rear, since I don't have much power, the slightly smaller contact patch is easier to keep spinning. Anywho, it just comes down to preference. __________________

09-25-2005, 05:40 PM	#91
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 35 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	theres a cpl pics for whoever wanted them. the front is screwed up, disregard that for now. switched from rivets to screws on the overfenders, rivets suck ass to take off. guy who asked for wheel specs - 18x12 -20 work equip m1, 2.5 estimated camber

09-25-2005, 06:58 PM	#98
lilredstiffy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: louisiana Posts: 618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not trying to make personal attacks, but you said yourself "The tire may roll and the strut may deflect, and that's why we run a negative camber, but not anywhere near -3 degrees on a properly set up car. " and I just found that a baseless statement. -2.5 is somewhere near -3. anyway on topic this is my car when im on stock wheels...its pretty low then haha this was after a coworker nailed my quarter panel when he was leaving work to go to lunch one day last year...hitting my parked car got the big dent fixed since then

09-25-2005, 07:59 PM	#100
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 35 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	err.. huh?

09-25-2005, 09:55 PM	#106
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 35 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you can get the stuff from www.signcatalog.com they have all different types and colors and everything. on the side go to "vinyl for signmaking" and the cool stuff is at the bottom, the metal flake one is what i used. it sucks, but its cooler than primer and if you mess it up you can just stick another piece on. the 24x50 yd rolls that are like 89$ + shipping, that is plenty to cover a whole car with.

09-25-2005, 11:51 PM	#112
Wei240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: socal Posts: 1,778 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i think the mods should delete all irrelavant posts and just keep the pics, fuckin a, i'd rather this be a pic thread and not a discussion thread... not low enough, need another 1" lower

09-26-2005, 12:58 AM	#115
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 35 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	uhh, hills? curvey roads. im not saying "touge". no. NO!!

09-26-2005, 01:02 AM	#116
beetlejuice Leaky Injector Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Me? Posts: 145 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Didn't know if this was a new development in the geographic make up of the state of texas. I lived there a few years back (45 min west of Ft Worth). Didn't see any mountains. Very few hills too. __________________ jollydwarf.com

09-26-2005, 01:35 AM	#117
chmercer BANNED Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: texas! Age: 35 Posts: 3,288 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	austin baby, hill country

09-26-2005, 03:09 AM	#119
KoukiMonster Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ? Age: 35 Posts: 700 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yea, bh spec.

09-26-2005, 04:07 AM	#120
TRUSE-R Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: GUAM Posts: 151 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	A pic from 671 (GUAM)

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