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Old 08-26-2004, 08:20 PM   #31
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altamont is gay. Ncda keeps flaking on their events. This is complete bullshit.
Here's a suggestion...ditch altamont. I know it's really convenient and they give you the track for FREE(yes that's FREE) but you cant keep taking registrations and money and then ditching people cause you're not making enough money. You shouldnt be in it to make money right now. You should be securing your future customers.
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Too bad it had to get cancelled. NCDA is the only one really trying to promote any type of track drifting in Norcal. There really aren't any other tracks around here that allow drifting. Sears and Laguna certainly don't.

If it was on Saturday I would have signed up. Can't make Sundays. I had a blast the last 2 times I was at Altamont. I was finally getting the course down. Walls aren't scary, just don't stare at them. I don't even notice them when I'm out there.
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Ok to set the record straight.
NCDA has lost money on all the last drift events at altamont.
We dont get the track for free. (if we did then why would it be cancelled?)
We have to pay for. Track, Insurance, Cleanup, Medical, and fyers.
I go out there all day and instruct, and i dont get paid.

You guys just have to understand that we are not Nasa, that allready has the track for that day, and it doesnt cost them anymore to host an event.

No disrespect to anyone, but lets show some support, remember when drift events were only in so cal? It may be like that again if we dont get out there and do it.
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i PROMISE to try my HARDEST to make it to every NCDA event at good venues. I would like to see drifting blowup like socal.
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i PROMISE to try my HARDEST to make it to every NCDA event at good venues. I would like to see drifting blowup like socal.
Haha, me2. Drift on baby

And also about the NCDA, man I wish they can honor this event since they cancelled the last one already.
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the chance of me actually hitting was slim to none.
bah, may 30th event....hmm 1, wait 2, no wait 3 people hit the wall. slim to none my ass.
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But that was the first event and all, I guess practice makes perfect.
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Thats all part of track racing, If the wall wasnt there then it would have been sand or dirt. Its all the same to me.
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bah, may 30th event....hmm 1, wait 2, no wait 3 people hit the wall. slim to none my ass.
You act like fucking pro drivers never hit the wall. hmm 1, wait 2, no wait 3 people hit the wall at D1 in Irwindale.

Did you forget that one guy that hit the wall was generally driving poorly the whole day (the Supra).. another guy was driving a pink car he wasnt even used to, and the last guy.. well, I don't remember who else hit the wall.

I disagree with Luke's assertion that you just gotta go out there and "push yourself" when there's walls around, however. Just cause you're on a track doesnt mean you drive past your limits.

I'm not making excuses for it. But there are always factors that come into play. Fact is, shit happens. Whatever. Frankly if you're worried about hitting a wall, maybe we should all stop driving in the hills too.

It's no different really. Except that you're paying money to go on the track. You go up to the twisties, you take the risk of hitting a car/a tree/a deer/flying off the cliff/etc etc etc

But its free!

And I'm sure you, and most of the other people here do it, so how is it any different? Except for the fact that you're paying $100 to do it on a track, and don't have to worry about flying off a cliff or killing someone (yourself included?)

I'd rather hit a concrete wall wearing a helmet than fly into another car without a helmet on.

But no, lets not go to the track and practice in a controlled environment. Cus there's a wall. Fuck that wall! I'mma go drift in the twisties instead. Ain't no walls up there! And it's free!

You don't wanna hit shit? Too bad, that comes with the territory. You drift, you're bound to hit something. Concrete walls or not. If your car is a daily driver and you're worried about smashing it, you shouldnt be drifting it.
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JUST GO OUT AND FUCKING DRIFT AND STOP ALL THE FUCKING DRAMA, WE SHOULD JUST BE FRIENDLY WITH ONE ANOTHER, AND STOP FUCKING HATIN ON EACH OTHER ALL THE TIME, NONE OF US ARE VERY GOOD,THE SO CAL GUYS WILL KICK ALL OF ARE ASSES, EVERYBODY WOULD RATHER JUST SIT ON ZILVIA ALL DAY AND JUST TALK ABOUT DRIFTING AND HOW GOOD THEY ARE, THEN ACTUALLY GO OUT AND GET BETTER, WERE LUCKY WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE NCDA IN NORCAL OR WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU GUYS WANT TO CALL IT, TO TRY TO GET THINGS GOING OUT HERE, BUT NO ALL YOU GUYS JUST FUCKING WHINE AND BITCH ABOUT ALTAMONT IS GAY, THERES TO MANY WALLS =( YOU FUCKING INTERNET DRIFTERS, WITH YOUR INTERNET CREWS, AND MOST OF THE MEMBERS DONT EVEN HAVE CARS, BUT THERE GOOD AT GT3 SO THEY THINK THEY ARE DRIFTERS. JUST GET OVER THE FUCKING DRAMA AND START ACTUALLY DRIFTING, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WHAT I SAID GIVE ME A CALL AND DONT TALK SHIT ON ZILVIA LIKE A FORUM FAG.

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NONE OF US ARE VERY GOOD,THE SO CAL GUYS WILL KICK ALL OF ARE ASSES.

EVERYBODY WOULD RATHER JUST SIT ON ZILVIA ALL DAY AND JUST TALK ABOUT DRIFTING AND HOW GOOD THEY ARE

AND MOST OF THE MEMBERS DONT EVEN HAVE CARS, BUT THERE GOOD AT GT3 SO THEY THINK THEY ARE DRIFTERS.
my first time drifting was at altamont and i crashed into a wall. you can understand how that can effect my opinion of the track.

The 3 above statements are false.
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Var i understand your concern, but with drifting comes the chance of breaking shit. Just like in the mountains, if its not a wall, tree, other car or a cliff, then it will be something. When ya going to call me for your turbo upgrade??

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Var i understand your concern, but with drifting comes the chance of breaking shit. Just like in the mountains, if its not a wall, tree, other car or a cliff, then it will be something. When ya going to call me for your turbo upgrade??

Ohh this is Luke. on Bobbys sn.

it is unacceptable for me to get my car sideways around walls whether it be in the mountains or the track. The only way you can really learn how to drift is to push your limits...you have to find out your car's limits as far as angles and such...it's not fair to for newbs like me to practice in a zero tolerance environment.

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If the wall wasnt there then it would have been sand or dirt. Its all the same to me.
i'd MUCH rather hit sand or dirt than a wall.
even better is just more pavement (with no way to catch and flip over)

what kind of track has pavement beyond the track though?
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Bullshit the 3 above statements are false, how long have been drifting? bullshit the soCal guys won't kick our asses, no offense but if you or any of the guys that have gone to altamont, and I do know your skill Ive been to all the events there, Im not sayin that your a bad driver, but anyways if you or anybody from Altamont went down to the Drivers Search in SoCal none of you would place, and Im not saying that Im good or anything because Im not, I wouldn't place either, but it just goes to show you that the skill level in SoCAl is alot higher than up here. And that is a FACT!!! dont even try to counter that.
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i'd MUCH rather hit sand or dirt than a wall.
even better is just more pavement (with no way to catch and flip over)

what kind of track has pavement beyond the track though?
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and if your affraid of hiting a wall or anything, then you should NOT be drifting, when you are driving on a race track and you purposely kick the back end out at a high speed, you have a good chance of crashing, its not always going to go as planed, if that's not okae with you then you should give up drifting. Ive crashed my car twice and Ive crashed my friends car once, it sucks, but you cant let it scare you, otherwise you'll crash again, and those statements I made earlier are not false!

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Bullshit the 3 above statements are false, how long have been drifting? bullshit the soCal guys won't kick our asses, no offense but if you or any of the guys that have gone to altamont, and I do know your skill Ive been to all the events there, Im not sayin that your a bad driver, but anyways if you or anybody from Altamont went down to the Drivers Search in SoCal none of you would place, and Im not saying that Im good or anything because Im not, I wouldn't place either, but it just goes to show you that the skill level in SoCAl is alot higher than up here. And that is a FACT!!! dont even try to counter that.

1-i think luke+a few more norcal would have a chance of placing
2-hubert and calvin and alex have already participated in D1(norcal guys)
3-no offense taken..i refer to myself as a "newb"

i'm not gonna argue with you anymore, but go read your statements word for word and they are all false.




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not true, i dont personally know a single member who doesnt have their car. they all come to the meets and some come driving in the mountains. also not one person that i talk to considers themself a drifter unless they actually do it quite often.


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people from Altamont still have a chance

also very sneaky of you to change your statement from anyone in norcal to anyone in norcal from altamont. Kind of like weapons of mass destruction to possible programs of weapons of mass destruction
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and if your affraid of hiting a wall or anything, then you should NOT be drifting, when you are driving on a race track and you purposely kick the back end out at a high speed, you have a good chance of crashing,

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sorry to drag this on but i still dont agree with you. when you are driftin at buttonwillow, or in a lot(like drift day or whatever), your chances of crashing are SLIM to NONE. in fact i dont even know when the last time was that someone crashed besides at altamont(into a wall) and irwindale(into a fucking wall)

fuck oval courses. only nascars deserve to be crashed into walls.
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Cool down guys, no need to bash each other. It's just not worthed. We are all drift lovers and nothing will change that. I know we have different opinions but we all still fall under one thing, WE LOVE DRIFTING AND RACING.

Im working things out with Sac SCCA to have a drift event for beginneers and advanced drivers (See my other post "Sac SCCA Drift Practice Event in the works"). It's not going to be anything fancy but it's a beginning.

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i just thought of a fun analogy.


you guys know about balance beam right?
imo those people are fucking crazy. good chance of falling off and fucking yourself up.

i GUARANTEE NO ONE starts to learn balance beam on a real balance beam.

and NO ONE criticizes them and says, "if you're afraid of falling off, you shouldn't do balance beam"

once they get good, then they get on the real thing, and the chances of falling off are way less than beginners.
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If you guys were at the may 30th event. Then you prob saw me drifting. If you noticed, i wasnt doing anything crazy. I was just going out, and taking the same line all day long. Giving people rides to show them the correct line and such.

However the day before in course setup, and practice. I was drifting the big banking, and was suprised to have not kissed the wall.

If you are trying to learn more, and crash then you are cool.

If you are trying to go beyond your limits, and crash! all you will learn is not to do that again.
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If you are trying to go beyond your limits, and crash! all you will learn is not to do that again.

exactly right luke. thank you. all you will learn is to not do that again. if you go beyond your limits and you spin out and DONT hit a wall, you will try to push it again to the edge without spinning out and will learn to take your car at a higher angle through the turn.


BTW i still think you were doing better than anyone out there on may 30th although you were smooth and conservative, if the walls werent there i know you would have been going balls out.
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No what you need to do is sell that fucking pink car and buy a Cadilac or somthing and stop drifting or driving of any sort, Nobody wants to have a meet at a fucking tool store buddy.

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No what you need to do is sell that fucking pink car and buy a Cadilac or somthing and stop drifting or driving of any sort, Nobody wants to have a meet at a fucking tool store buddy.

Sorry

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whatever you say bro. you dont have to get all butthurt about me proving you wrong. that was 2 childish unrelated irrlevant comments in a row, just like your above post which was in caps. what you need to do is step away from your computer and stop going on forums if you cant play nice.

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exactly right luke. thank you. all you will learn is to not do that again. if you go beyond your limits and you spin out and DONT hit a wall, you will try to push it again to the edge without spinning out and will learn to take your car at a higher angle through the turn.


BTW i still think you were doing better than anyone out there on may 30th although you were smooth and conservative, if the walls werent there i know you would have been going balls out.

Thanks Var. I wish i could have been tearing it up, But Todd told me
" it would look bad if one of the instructors crashes. So just stay on the regular line ".


It was still fun though.

I should have that pos out of my garage by thursday
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