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white2abbit · 05-21-2009, 01:33 PM

After installing my new wheels tires, it appears as though my subframe bushings are shot.

The important question – can I continue driving to work for a few weeks until I can afford to get this fixed? I work about 5 km from my house, smooth roads, and I'd drive cautiously...or is this just a reallllllly bad idea?

Here are 2 pics:

Shift_Cory · 05-21-2009, 01:40 PM

i think u can make it a while if u baby it haha... but dam thats crazy.... and if it did fall off or some crazy shit that would REALLY SUCK! i would personally park it. risky biz right there.

gijoe69 · 05-23-2009, 04:21 PM

just get some spacers and torque that bitch down!

white2abbit · 05-25-2009, 09:01 AM

replaced with solid aluminum bushings

Bigsyke · 05-25-2009, 10:08 AM

Do not get spacers, get the solid bushings.

Mine are like that, it sucks with spacers

upsdude · 05-25-2009, 11:49 AM

my rear bushings went out too, but it's my dd and my mechanic said as long as i don't drive it hard i'd be ok. he mentioned doing the spacers thing too...but i figure sooner or later the bushing's just gonna have to be replaced. So don't bother with spacers just save up and get the bushings done. do you get that horrendous CLUNK sound if you brake too hard? every time i hear it i'm worried the rear half of the car's gonna fall off

Sileighty_85 · 05-25-2009, 12:29 PM

your rear sub frame aint going anywhere

Mines the same been driving on it for months, just sloppy

I got some Nismo Bushings waiting to go in

white2abbit · 05-25-2009, 12:55 PM

Replaced with these:

upsdude · 05-25-2009, 01:28 PM

^^oh cool what brand are those?

white2abbit · 05-25-2009, 02:11 PM

bings.ca - local guy here in Ontario

EDacIouSX · 05-25-2009, 02:15 PM

thats some super gappage. no idea if that is bad or whatever but it must be putting a lot of extra stress on the bolt since your subframes slapping around....

Grimace · 05-25-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

thats some super gappage. no idea if that is bad or whatever but it must be putting a lot of extra stress on the bolt since your subframes slapping around....

It will and does, I just replaced my worn out bushings with SPL's. I literary pulled the center section out with my fingers.

The driver front however, Binded the metal insert to the subframe stud. Not only that, From it slapping around for about a year bent the shit out of it. I had a REAL fun time fixing that.

upsdude · 05-25-2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by white2abbit

bings.ca - local guy here in Ontario

any difference between that type of bushing and the energy ones people rave about?

Bigsyke · 05-25-2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EDacIouSX

thats some super gappage. no idea if that is bad or whatever but it must be putting a lot of extra stress on the bolt since your subframes slapping around....

No crap, this is what im worried about, all 4 of my subframe bushings are just like the OP's

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimace

It will and does, I just replaced my worn out bushings with SPL's. I literary pulled the center section out with my fingers.

The driver front however, Binded the metal insert to the subframe stud. Not only that, From it slapping around for about a year bent the shit out of it. I had a REAL fun time fixing that.

So you litterally bent the stud, or sheetmetal around the stud? fuck!

Grimace · 05-25-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsyke

No crap, this is what im worried about, all 4 of my subframe bushings are just like the OP's

So you litterally bent the stud, or sheetmetal around the stud? fuck!

This...

That's the metal insert from the factory bushings, Its seized to the stud. Also notice the end of the stud, It was pretty bent. If your subframe bushings are shot and it clunks around, Replace the bushings or prepare to replace subframe studs.

lflkajfj12123 · 05-25-2009, 05:23 PM

lol mine are completely gone

the subframe drops about an inch when i jack the car up

the clunk is fucking awesome

i have new psm solid riser ones here but i have yet to put them in

too hungover everyday

upsdude · 05-25-2009, 06:13 PM

ok i'm still a noob for this stuff...but i thought bushings were some kind of rubber/urethane? or does the rear subframe use metal while other sections use the other material?

Bigsyke · 05-25-2009, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grimace

This...

That's the metal insert from the factory bushings, Its seized to the stud. Also notice the end of the stud, It was pretty bent. If your subframe bushings are shot and it clunks around, Replace the bushings or prepare to replace subframe studs.

my god that stud is totally bent!!!!! seriously I think this is how mine is, i just ordered some solids so ill know next week.

Yes the casing is siezed on mine, I got it loose with some heat and pblaster..

this is my worst fear right now!!

thanks for the pic bro + rep!

apex · 05-25-2009, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filiperuvian

ok i'm still a noob for this stuff...but i thought bushings were some kind of rubber/urethane? or does the rear subframe use metal while other sections use the other material?

all the bushings are rubber or whatever but they all have a metal shell outside and a metal insert in the middle
here is a good pic of one that got pressed out
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_plu...pic.php?3169.0

Bigsyke · 05-25-2009, 06:59 PM

grimace did you replace that stud??? if so you would be a true boss if you showed us where you drilled a hole in the frame to get the stud out..

apex · 05-25-2009, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsyke

grimace did you replace that stud??? if so you would be a true boss if you showed us where you drilled a hole in the frame to get the stud out..

gotta search dude heres one sumbody did
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/128649...stud-help.html

Bigsyke · 05-26-2009, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apex

gotta search dude heres one sumbody did
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/128649...stud-help.html

^^^I posted in that thread like 3 times man.

That was an S13, S14 is much, much different. like 2 layers of frame before you see the stud.

apex · 05-26-2009, 12:20 PM

osnap my bad i just looked real fast didnt notice it was an s13 till right now sorry

Bigsyke · 05-26-2009, 06:31 PM

np brotha, non the less its one of the biggest pita on a vehicle I would assume, aside from a 1 man tranny swap job.

Kyosuke · 05-28-2009, 07:17 PM

im scared to know what kinda condition mines are in,i drove the car back from dallas with it clunking loud as hell,sounded like somebody was shooting at me at times

I just ordered adjustable subframe bushings

05-21-2009, 01:33 PM	#1
white2abbit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Rear Subframe help! After installing my new wheels tires, it appears as though my subframe bushings are shot. The important question – can I continue driving to work for a few weeks until I can afford to get this fixed? I work about 5 km from my house, smooth roads, and I'd drive cautiously...or is this just a reallllllly bad idea? Here are 2 pics:

05-25-2009, 12:29 PM	#7
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	your rear sub frame aint going anywhere Mines the same been driving on it for months, just sloppy I got some Nismo Bushings waiting to go in __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

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apex Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: palm springs Posts: 1,566 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	osnap my bad i just looked real fast didnt notice it was an s13 till right now sorry __________________ Red Rocket

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05-21-2009, 01:40 PM	#2
Shift_Cory Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 261 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	i think u can make it a while if u baby it haha... but dam thats crazy.... and if it did fall off or some crazy shit that would REALLY SUCK! i would personally park it. risky biz right there.

05-23-2009, 04:21 PM	#3
gijoe69 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco, CA Age: 36 Posts: 366 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	just get some spacers and torque that bitch down!

05-25-2009, 09:01 AM	#4
white2abbit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	replaced with solid aluminum bushings

05-25-2009, 10:08 AM	#5
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 36 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Do not get spacers, get the solid bushings. Mine are like that, it sucks with spacers

05-25-2009, 11:49 AM	#6
upsdude Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fontana (the good part) Posts: 2,721 Trader Rating: (46) Rides Gallery: upsdude Feedback Score: 46 reviews	my rear bushings went out too, but it's my dd and my mechanic said as long as i don't drive it hard i'd be ok. he mentioned doing the spacers thing too...but i figure sooner or later the bushing's just gonna have to be replaced. So don't bother with spacers just save up and get the bushings done. do you get that horrendous CLUNK sound if you brake too hard? every time i hear it i'm worried the rear half of the car's gonna fall off

05-25-2009, 12:55 PM	#8
white2abbit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Replaced with these:

05-25-2009, 01:28 PM	#9
upsdude Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fontana (the good part) Posts: 2,721 Trader Rating: (46) Rides Gallery: upsdude Feedback Score: 46 reviews	^^oh cool what brand are those?

05-25-2009, 02:11 PM	#10
white2abbit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bings.ca - local guy here in Ontario

05-25-2009, 02:15 PM	#11
EDacIouSX Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 4,527 Trader Rating: (53) Rides Gallery: EDacIouSX Feedback Score: 53 reviews	thats some super gappage. no idea if that is bad or whatever but it must be putting a lot of extra stress on the bolt since your subframes slapping around....

05-25-2009, 05:23 PM	#16
lflkajfj12123 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 　　　　　　　　 Posts: 8,480 Trader Rating: (20) Feedback Score: 20 reviews	lol mine are completely gone the subframe drops about an inch when i jack the car up the clunk is fucking awesome i have new psm solid riser ones here but i have yet to put them in too hungover everyday

05-25-2009, 06:13 PM	#17
upsdude Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Fontana (the good part) Posts: 2,721 Trader Rating: (46) Rides Gallery: upsdude Feedback Score: 46 reviews	ok i'm still a noob for this stuff...but i thought bushings were some kind of rubber/urethane? or does the rear subframe use metal while other sections use the other material?

05-25-2009, 06:59 PM	#20
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 36 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	grimace did you replace that stud??? if so you would be a true boss if you showed us where you drilled a hole in the frame to get the stud out..

05-26-2009, 06:31 PM	#24
Bigsyke Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NA Age: 36 Posts: 1,342 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	np brotha, non the less its one of the biggest pita on a vehicle I would assume, aside from a 1 man tranny swap job.

05-28-2009, 07:17 PM	#25
Kyosuke Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 81 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im scared to know what kinda condition mines are in,i drove the car back from dallas with it clunking loud as hell,sounded like somebody was shooting at me at times I just ordered adjustable subframe bushings