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joecrack · 10-02-2009, 11:52 AM

thats the fugliest looking thing i have seen .
nice motor though

jr_ss · 10-03-2009, 01:41 PM

Definitely not diggin the body kit. You've done some good work though. Any particular reason you went with the CA vs other motors?

shogun! · 10-06-2009, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_ss

Definitely not diggin the body kit. You've done some good work though. Any particular reason you went with the CA vs other motors?

Well,
the S13 had the ca in it from factory and I wanted to challenge it a bit.
It is a good motor that only needed new pistons, rods and bearings etc to withstand the power. The rest is things added to raise the output.

I have had the front thingy for about 10 years...
A tiny bird whispered something about "Works9"

SochBAT · 10-06-2009, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shogun!

I have had the front thingy for about 10 years...
A tiny bird whispered something about "Works9"

So I take it you don't need me to circle things? Lol.

Very impressive work. I'm curious if you could actually make those headlight covers work in your favor in terms of fitment and alignment.

shogun! · 10-06-2009, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soooshi

So I take it you don't need me to circle things? Lol.

Very impressive work. I'm curious if you could actually make those headlight covers work in your favor in terms of fitment and alignment.

Lol.
It has been very helpful. Now I could sell that Plywood board at a very good price.

I have test mounted the headlight frames and covers together with the lights and it is working fine. Some minor cutting in the plastic but no major issues.
The lights have adjustable holders to align the light beams and the covers doesn't create any shadows.

Thanks by the way.

SochBAT · 10-06-2009, 10:46 AM

To be quite honest, I think you should make a DIY diffuser with corrugated plastic.

Do it!

shogun! · 10-06-2009, 12:01 PM

Breaking news..!!!

T chop · 10-06-2009, 12:15 PM

Nice motor, but the kit, wing and tacky interior stuff make it look really ugly. Change all that and you will be fine.

ryguy · 10-06-2009, 01:15 PM

Awesome build, subscribed! I noticed some big A/Ts beneath the rebel flag, what kind of rig you got? And while we may not all agree on the style, I must say your car is very clean.

SochBAT · 10-06-2009, 04:56 PM

Well, the OP has stated he's getting shit in. i gave him shit before, i circled it and everything.

Really clean. NewZealanders (?) do it right.

ryguy · 10-06-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soooshi

Really clean. NewZealanders (?) do it right.

SVEEDEN! Vroom Vroom party starter.

shogun! · 10-07-2009, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryguy

Awesome build, subscribed! I noticed some big A/Ts beneath the rebel flag, what kind of rig you got? And while we may not all agree on the style, I must say your car is very clean.

¨

Yes, Sweden it is.

The A/T's belong to a neighbour. He has got an old V8 pickup hes restoring.

mjr321 · 10-07-2009, 10:34 AM

throw up some pictures of your huge swedish house...that garage alone looks like a dream

shogun! · 10-07-2009, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjr321

throw up some pictures of your huge swedish house...that garage alone looks like a dream

ehhhrmmmm...

A while ago...

ATLspeed · 10-07-2009, 11:01 AM

regardless of what ppl think of the kit and what not...its your car and you did A GREAT JOB on the build and everything else. *HIGH FIVE*

Somnambulist · 10-07-2009, 11:37 AM

While's it's not my style, it is very clean.
I do love the motor build though, keep it up. And keep posting lots of pics.

Goddamn that is a baller house. More pics!

Subscribed.

shogun! · 10-09-2009, 10:24 AM

let5l1de · 10-09-2009, 04:11 PM

Ahh yes! I used to use Total Seal in the Porsche Racing & VW Sand Drag/Rail engines back in the 90's good stuff!

~m

SochBAT · 10-10-2009, 12:37 AM

Hot shit. I tip my hat.

Devil Man · 10-10-2009, 08:35 AM

moar pics!

and yes please loose the body kit and wing... great build though

Blown240sx · 10-12-2009, 12:20 PM

700bhp is a lofty goal for such a small turbo and motor.

CylonFrakker · 10-12-2009, 02:29 PM

great build! I bet that thing will scream when you get it done!

carnagexxxx · 10-12-2009, 03:14 PM

Great looking car man! It wouldn't be Zilvia if a few jealous people (who most likely have cracked bumpers or engines with a crap tune) didn't express their unwanted opinions on a solid looking car. I'm actually surprised no one spouted obsceneties about the lady in the pictures...usually zilvians comment on that first.

Anyway, keep up the great work and I'll be interested in seeing any dyno numbers.

shogun! · 10-13-2009, 01:05 AM

Upgrading the brakes.
Front 350z track edition discs and Z32 calipers.
Rear Z32 discs and calipers.
Bolt on.

SochBAT · 10-13-2009, 06:06 AM

This is one of those builds that remain memorable as hell.

Because there are pictures with circles
Quality work
Balling House
Hot Wife

anton1o · 10-13-2009, 07:05 AM

Good work mate, keep it up.. Not a fan of the body kit but atleast it has the power

shogun! · 10-13-2009, 08:14 AM

This is how I rebuilt a Z32 gearbox to fit my car (200sx S13 with ca18det).

The good thing about it is that you can reuse the nice clutch you already invested in for your S13. I have a twin disc OS Giken clutch, bought for my S13 gearbox. Both gearboxes have the same dimensions on the ingoing splined shaft, release bearing, sleave etc. This makes it an absolute fit. The gear ratio is slightly higher. My car had before a top speed of 282km/h at 7800rpm. With the ratio of the Z32 gearbox and new tyres it will make aprox. 305km/h. Hope you like it.

Clutch: Same as S13 (clutch, bearing, release sleave, starter motor, flywheel)
Weight: A bit heavier because of internal dimensions
Length: A bit shorter (reuse the yoke from the Z32 and the rear part from theS13 and make a new, longer prop shaft)
Gear ratio: A bit higher (~5%)
Shift stick: Reuse the one from Z32 or buy a new short shift
Welding in cast aluminium: You need a TIG or go to a welding shop (sand blast the weld area to make it clean and easier to weld)

Z32 original gearbox from a Twin Turbo 1994

Disassemble the clutch housing (Z32)

Parts to remove to disassemble the clutch housing. Not shown are the screws on the outside (remove), attaching the cluth housing to the gearbox.

Remove all screws around the cover and carefully lift it off

Remove both snap rings and the stopper ring

Be careful not to lose any important washers or shims

Important! First remove the screw, spring and ball before removing the complete interlock assembly, the ball might fall into the gearbox.

Before you disassemble the clutch housing of the S13 gearbox, you have to make a centering device. Use a plexi glass plate (10mm) and drill a 16mm hole in the centre, put the plate over the shaft (snug fit) and carefully drill 4 small holes exactly in the centre of the holes where the gearbox is attached to the motor. Remove the plate and carefully drill the holes just as big to get the screws in

Result

Remove the clutch housing from the ca18det S13 gearbox. It is more or less just to remove the screws on the outside of the clutch housing, remove the cover and one snap ring.

Remove the snap ring under the cover

Comparision between the both gearboxes. One is useless over 350-400Bhp, the other last well over 1000Bhp and more.

Use an angle cutting machine and cut off the flange from the S13 gearbox ca. 50mm, take it to a machine shop and have it grinded down to 45mm. Important to get it absolutely flat and equal all around.

Use an angle cutting machine and cut off the flange from the Z32 gearbox ca. 40mm, throw away the flange and take the rest of the clutch housing to a machine shop and have it grinded down to 355mm. Important to get it absolutely flat and equal all around.

Both parts after grinding, cleaning and reattaching the clutch housing on the Z32 gearbox

Put the S13 flange snug to the Z32 clutch housing and attach the centering plate with four screws

Side view

Top view. Important to align and rotate them like on the picture

If you do not own a TIG-welding machine, you go to the machine shop again and have it carefully welded together, both from the outside and the inside

Reuse the shift stick bracket from the Z32 gearbox. You have to cut out some small triangles from it, bend it to a Z-shape to fit the S13 under body and then weld the cut outs together. (borrowed picture)

The new short shift

A small change of shift stick position compared to the original (borrowed picture)

A plate to cover the hole at the shift stick (borrowed picture)

A bracket to hold the gearbox in place (borrowed picture)

Aligning the gearbox with the rear axle. Put a steel tube in the gearbox, aim it towards the centre of the rear axle flange and find the final position of the gearbox bracket. (borrowed picture)

Side view (borrowed picture)

Front view (borrowed picture)

The prop shaft. Mount the Z32 yoke in the gearbox and the original flange on the rear axle. Measure the centre distance between the loops in the yoke and in the rear flange. Use this measure and go to your local prop shaft supplier and have him to make your new prop shaft. The shaft rotate at about 10.000rpm at max speed so it has to be dimensioned for the forces and also balanced.

shogun! · 10-14-2009, 10:00 AM

Some stuff from

Hidden in the Attic

project-D180 · 10-14-2009, 11:17 AM

sweet build

project-D180 · 10-14-2009, 11:25 AM

its funny but alot of parts on the ca look interchagable with the ka motors

10-03-2009, 01:41 PM	#32
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,056 Trader Rating: (34) Feedback Score: 34 reviews	Definitely not diggin the body kit. You've done some good work though. Any particular reason you went with the CA vs other motors? __________________ My SR20VET

10-06-2009, 01:15 PM	#39
ryguy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Suburbs Age: 32 Posts: 1,544 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Awesome build, subscribed! I noticed some big A/Ts beneath the rebel flag, what kind of rig you got? And while we may not all agree on the style, I must say your car is very clean. __________________

10-07-2009, 11:01 AM	#45
ATLspeed Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Eden, MD, USA Age: 34 Posts: 921 Trader Rating: (14) Rides Gallery: ATLspeed Feedback Score: 14 reviews	regardless of what ppl think of the kit and what not...its your car and you did A GREAT JOB on the build and everything else. HIGH FIVE __________________ 93 s13 Vert - 2jz/cd009 -- parted/sold 95 Supra Turbo

10-09-2009, 04:11 PM	#48
let5l1de Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: 626DRIFT, ca Posts: 1,420 Trader Rating: (30) Rides Gallery: let5l1de Feedback Score: 30 reviews	Ahh yes! I used to use Total Seal in the Porsche Racing & VW Sand Drag/Rail engines back in the 90's good stuff! ~m __________________ GR Performance facebook Pics & More! Comments! http://www.facebook.com/pages/GR-Performance/120477531339202 Read My Sales Review 626 Friday Nights San Gabriel

10-12-2009, 12:20 PM	#51
Blown240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Are you stalkin me? Age: 36 Posts: 107 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	700bhp is a lofty goal for such a small turbo and motor. __________________ I am the Negative Rep Master

10-02-2009, 11:52 AM	#31
joecrack Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats the fugliest looking thing i have seen . nice motor though

10-06-2009, 10:46 AM	#36
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	To be quite honest, I think you should make a DIY diffuser with corrugated plastic. Do it!

10-06-2009, 12:01 PM	#37
shogun! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Breaking news..!!!

10-06-2009, 12:15 PM	#38
T chop Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver Posts: 325 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nice motor, but the kit, wing and tacky interior stuff make it look really ugly. Change all that and you will be fine.

10-06-2009, 04:56 PM	#40
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Well, the OP has stated he's getting shit in. i gave him shit before, i circled it and everything. Really clean. NewZealanders (?) do it right.

10-07-2009, 10:34 AM	#43
mjr321 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pembroke Pines, FL Age: 31 Posts: 182 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	throw up some pictures of your huge swedish house...that garage alone looks like a dream

10-07-2009, 11:37 AM	#46
Somnambulist Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 596 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	While's it's not my style, it is very clean. I do love the motor build though, keep it up. And keep posting lots of pics. Goddamn that is a baller house. More pics! Subscribed.

10-09-2009, 10:24 AM	#47
shogun! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews

10-10-2009, 12:37 AM	#49
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Hot shit. I tip my hat.

10-12-2009, 02:29 PM	#52
CylonFrakker Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nashville TN Age: 39 Posts: 899 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	great build! I bet that thing will scream when you get it done! __________________ UGR.....SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES....

10-12-2009, 03:14 PM	#53
carnagexxxx Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: weirdoville Age: 40 Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	Great looking car man! It wouldn't be Zilvia if a few jealous people (who most likely have cracked bumpers or engines with a crap tune) didn't express their unwanted opinions on a solid looking car. I'm actually surprised no one spouted obsceneties about the lady in the pictures...usually zilvians comment on that first. Anyway, keep up the great work and I'll be interested in seeing any dyno numbers.

10-13-2009, 01:05 AM	#54
shogun! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Upgrading the brakes. Front 350z track edition discs and Z32 calipers. Rear Z32 discs and calipers. Bolt on.

10-13-2009, 06:06 AM	#55
SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	This is one of those builds that remain memorable as hell. Because there are pictures with circles Quality work Balling House Hot Wife

10-13-2009, 07:05 AM	#56
anton1o Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 35 Posts: 333 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good work mate, keep it up.. Not a fan of the body kit but atleast it has the power

10-13-2009, 08:14 AM	#57
shogun! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This is how I rebuilt a Z32 gearbox to fit my car (200sx S13 with ca18det). The good thing about it is that you can reuse the nice clutch you already invested in for your S13. I have a twin disc OS Giken clutch, bought for my S13 gearbox. Both gearboxes have the same dimensions on the ingoing splined shaft, release bearing, sleave etc. This makes it an absolute fit. The gear ratio is slightly higher. My car had before a top speed of 282km/h at 7800rpm. With the ratio of the Z32 gearbox and new tyres it will make aprox. 305km/h. Hope you like it. Clutch: Same as S13 (clutch, bearing, release sleave, starter motor, flywheel) Weight: A bit heavier because of internal dimensions Length: A bit shorter (reuse the yoke from the Z32 and the rear part from theS13 and make a new, longer prop shaft) Gear ratio: A bit higher (~5%) Shift stick: Reuse the one from Z32 or buy a new short shift Welding in cast aluminium: You need a TIG or go to a welding shop (sand blast the weld area to make it clean and easier to weld) Z32 original gearbox from a Twin Turbo 1994 Disassemble the clutch housing (Z32) Parts to remove to disassemble the clutch housing. Not shown are the screws on the outside (remove), attaching the cluth housing to the gearbox. Remove all screws around the cover and carefully lift it off Remove both snap rings and the stopper ring Be careful not to lose any important washers or shims Important! First remove the screw, spring and ball before removing the complete interlock assembly, the ball might fall into the gearbox. Before you disassemble the clutch housing of the S13 gearbox, you have to make a centering device. Use a plexi glass plate (10mm) and drill a 16mm hole in the centre, put the plate over the shaft (snug fit) and carefully drill 4 small holes exactly in the centre of the holes where the gearbox is attached to the motor. Remove the plate and carefully drill the holes just as big to get the screws in Result Remove the clutch housing from the ca18det S13 gearbox. It is more or less just to remove the screws on the outside of the clutch housing, remove the cover and one snap ring. Remove the snap ring under the cover Comparision between the both gearboxes. One is useless over 350-400Bhp, the other last well over 1000Bhp and more. Use an angle cutting machine and cut off the flange from the S13 gearbox ca. 50mm, take it to a machine shop and have it grinded down to 45mm. Important to get it absolutely flat and equal all around. Use an angle cutting machine and cut off the flange from the Z32 gearbox ca. 40mm, throw away the flange and take the rest of the clutch housing to a machine shop and have it grinded down to 355mm. Important to get it absolutely flat and equal all around. Both parts after grinding, cleaning and reattaching the clutch housing on the Z32 gearbox Put the S13 flange snug to the Z32 clutch housing and attach the centering plate with four screws Side view Top view. Important to align and rotate them like on the picture If you do not own a TIG-welding machine, you go to the machine shop again and have it carefully welded together, both from the outside and the inside Reuse the shift stick bracket from the Z32 gearbox. You have to cut out some small triangles from it, bend it to a Z-shape to fit the S13 under body and then weld the cut outs together. (borrowed picture) The new short shift A small change of shift stick position compared to the original (borrowed picture) A plate to cover the hole at the shift stick (borrowed picture) A bracket to hold the gearbox in place (borrowed picture) Aligning the gearbox with the rear axle. Put a steel tube in the gearbox, aim it towards the centre of the rear axle flange and find the final position of the gearbox bracket. (borrowed picture) Side view (borrowed picture) Front view (borrowed picture) The prop shaft. Mount the Z32 yoke in the gearbox and the original flange on the rear axle. Measure the centre distance between the loops in the yoke and in the rear flange. Use this measure and go to your local prop shaft supplier and have him to make your new prop shaft. The shaft rotate at about 10.000rpm at max speed so it has to be dimensioned for the forces and also balanced.

10-14-2009, 10:00 AM	#58
shogun! Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 367 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Some stuff from Hidden in the Attic

10-14-2009, 11:17 AM	#59
project-D180 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: south caroloina Posts: 987 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	sweet build

10-14-2009, 11:25 AM	#60
project-D180 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: south caroloina Posts: 987 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	its funny but alot of parts on the ca look interchagable with the ka motors

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