g6civcx

I don't want to sidetrack but this has to be said.

This makes you pro-choice. Pro-choice means you let the mother decide to carry the fetus to term or abort at the mother's discretion.

Carry on.

sirfallsalot243

I suppose youre right. I consider myself neutral. I accept the risks PRIOR to engaging in unprotected sex. If we get preggo, its her decision what she wants to do with it. If she FORCED me to make a decision, Id be pro-choice. Realistically, im pro-choice. Morally, Im pro-life. Aka, Im a big hypocrite. haha.

g6civcx

I apologize for the derailment but I feel this is an educational opportunity.

Being neutral means you defer the decision to the mother. This is pro-choice.

Your logic is not quite consistent. I think the problem is that you haven't clearly defined what pro-life vs. pro-choice stand for.

Pro-life people don't want anyone to have abortions.

Pro-choice people don't really care what each person does, as long as each person doesn't force any other person to do anything against their will.

Pro-choice doesn't mean compulsory abortion. Pro-lifers would like to portray the pro-choice group as requiring mandatory abortions, but this is not true.

Pro-choicers are actually quite libertarian. You can do whatever the F you want as long as you don't make me follow you.


All a pro-lifer needs to do to join the pro-choice group is to stop telling other people what to do. You can do what you want and still be pro-life in your own personal life. You just can't tell other people what to do with their own life.

Pro-choice is more inclusive and it allows each person's moral decision to take precedence over the group. If you want the baby, you can have it. If you don't, you can abort. It's your personal choice and no one else's.

Pro-lifers would make you carry the child to term regardless of your personal opinion.


You would prefer to not have an abortion, but if forced to make a decision, you would let the mother make the decision. Is this accurate?

If so, you are both ideologically and practically pro-choice.

If you believed that no one should have an abortion, then I would say you are theoretically pro-life, but I don't think this is true based on what you said.

I don't believe you are a moral hypocrite.

mkezzo16

Unless you have a woman you've been with for a minute, I'd stay wit condoms..BC dont save you from other shit..I'm with the male BC though once its perfected..im not testing nething while its new.

theicecreamdan

"hormones fail to adequately suppress sperm production in up to 20 percent of men, and scientists have no way of knowing which men will fall into that group.

There are also side effects, including acne, weight gain and a 10 percent drop in good cholesterol levels, as well as a shrinking of the testes by 25 percent -- which, Amory insisted, men don't usually notice."

The only "successful" rates for hormonal drugs have worked in China at 95%. 20% odds that it wouldn't even work for me isn't good enough.

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The biggest problem with male BC pill form is that medical professionals believe that as males we will be less likely to wear condoms and thus STDs rates will increase.

Just like why insurance rates are higher than females.

We cannot be responsible according to them.

But if you are fucking a girl and you tell yourself "man I really need to wear a condom with this girl because she might have something" then you really should not be having sex with her at all.

STDs can still be transmitted even if you are wearing a condom.

DALAZ_68

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Make sure the juice is worth the squeeze...

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hellion240sx

If it was up to me I would say perfectt his pill, then give it to every male at puberty. Stop "anyone" from making babies till they have a graduate high school. Have at least an associates from a college. Show reponsibility financially (good credit I guess HAHA). Can hold a job over a year or two. Pass a few academic tests. Constant Drug tests... Theeeennnnn they can get off the pill
But What do I know? I'm just another sheep :/

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wh0aitznic0

This is retarded. How are you going to keep each and every male from NOT taking the pill.

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hellion240sx

lol. I guess you see my point though.

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Weedm

girls take the pills to help their cramps as well as control their period cycles, on top of preventing pregnancy.

can birth control for men cure blue balls!?

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Blue balls happens when you don't release the poison... Blow that shit out son! I'll never have blue balls.

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TheWolf

The wife and I use Marquette Method. Have had one kid in 6 years of marriage which was when we wanted it. My wife is also breastfeeding right now and we didn't need "shots". We actually are now teachers of it.

Marquette University | Natural Family Planning


As hippie as it sounds, my family doesn't look at fertility as something that needs to be treated as a disease but something to be celebrated. Once you locate the 6 or so days in a womans cycle where she can become pregnant, then it's open season the rest of the month. This isn't the rhythm method, you utilize hormone monitors and simple biological markers. No condoms.. no pulling out.. no shots.. no pills.. no worries.. and if you want to have kids then you go for it on those 6 days.. if not then it's mutually understood that playing call of duty is a perfectly acceptable alternative to sex when no kids are desired...


As to the birth control thing. I know many people who are "pro birth control" and "Anti abortion" while agreeing with "Life begins at conception" etc. Most major birth controls suppress ovulation of the woman. Basically shutting her ovaries down. They usually carry a nuclear option as well. Sometimes a woman will still ovulate while on the pill, the sperm will fertilize the egg, travel down the fallopian tube but the pill has created a hostile uterine environment and prevents the egg from implanting and thus aborting it. How you feel about "Life begins at conception" may determine how you feel about continuing birth control.

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BoostSlideWayz

yeah i mean this is somewhat of a good idea.. but will it effect your sperm in the long run ? in case you do actually want to consider kids and have them come out all fucked up. Also.. if your tired of using the condom then your probably tired of being disease free. Unless your with one girl only then you should have to worry about a condom anyways.

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NATURAL SELECTION. MUTHERFUCKING DARWIN PEOPLE.


Apparently no one who supports this has read anything, I mean ANYTHING, on the history of medicines. Cigarettes were advertised as being healthy. They used to sell cocaine and opium as medicine too. Drugs that were perfectly legal and supposedly "safe" for consumption have been pulled from the market after their terrifying side effects become known.


20, 30 years from now when all these guys have their balls chopped off from some mutant disease or are permanently sterile from taking a friggin "male birth control pill" which has not even been on the market for at least a decade (to allow proper/independent studies of its real side and long term effects) I'll be saying "I told you so".

But like I said, natural selection. If all you can think is "fuck yeah booyy now I can creampie lots of girlssss" then I'll be damn glad when those pills take you out of the gene pool.

RNGWLD

I dont see "not fucking up your balls with chemicals" as hippie. Not at all.

Carry on good sir.

EnjoiJoel

bump for hating condoms

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hOngsterr

when in doubt pull out,

but yeah, i would take this shizz.

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dsastr_clan

i will take the pill if i have a relationship ( gf, wife, wifes IM FROM UTAH) if im single i would not do the pills cuz it wouldnt prenvent stds

Waylayer

Lol.... a male bc pill...

Just take a really hot bath for 30 minutes a day. The heat will degenerate your sperm and kill them. Takes 72 hours for sperm to rebuild. So if you do it everyday its a good safeguard.

Then robocop that hoe.

hellion240sx

your wrong about the ciggs cause they are not illegal

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